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mircea_popescu: I believe it takes all kinds to make a working world, but what I find among the modern novices is that they do not feel the same way about the experts -- they want an expert-free world where their ignorance is not painful, where their inexperience is not used against them, where they get all the jokes, where nobody uses literary references that elude them, where every one of their ideas is accepted by their peers as just as n
mircea_popescu: to grow enough facial hair to need to shave daily not only to show off their insufficient beard growth as "hip" but to fill "leadership" positions where they feel threatened by anyone significantly older than themselves and where the inability to /lead/ is replaced by their simple skills at /managing/.
mircea_popescu: "to advance it is at serious odds with the massive glorification of youth. As marketing found itself unable to expand without encroaching upon our childhood, the intense drive to capture the minds of the youngest among us has tended to make people believe that 30 years of experience can be replaced by the young looks of rank novices. This is made worse by the management schools that make it possible for people who have yet ☟︎
mircea_popescu: " on the Net, people argue about whether year 2000 is a leap year or not, so it's not as if you can rely on the answers you get."
asciilifeform: there are probably somewhere circles where mark karpeles 'has business in as noncrackpot'
Framedragger: (undergrad student circles, etc.; luckily those fall out of relevancy/radar as one ages)
Framedragger: hehe, don't know particulars, but it should be noted that he studied philosophy and in some of the circles he had to have business with, ayn rand sorta-has a place as a non-crackpot. hence the (arbitrary, otherwise) particular object of hate
asciilifeform: he also vagabonded around usa as a young man, was involved in aynrandism, then was cured, and left.
mircea_popescu: big part of problem was that he was writing his stuff as email answers to idiots
asciilifeform wonders how much of 'naggumism' actually exists in the written word, and how much -- as a synthesis in his head
asciilifeform: it's roughly same type of fecal mass as emacs
a111: Logged on 2016-12-13 12:32 Framedragger: i'd actually like to see a coherent and all-in-one-place SQL / RDBMS-as-a-general-model critique some time. maybe it exists. usually it's mongodb hipsters complaining randomly, so i'd developed a (too-)generic "ignore 'em all" filter :p
asciilifeform: but no, you don't even get to touch airplane for fiddybux in usa. insurance for your so much as farting on it, is a hundy.
Framedragger: i don't know how it is in the .us and it's prolly *quite* a bit more complicated than that, also i had the lucky chance of having a relative who'd invite to fly with him and show me basic flight control stuff, but are you not able to get lessons as a total noob?
trinque: and this is given as a general whiff of endless haphazardness in SQL
Framedragger: trinque: right right, so you're talking about SQL as a language, fair enough
Framedragger: i'd actually like to see a coherent and all-in-one-place SQL / RDBMS-as-a-general-model critique some time. maybe it exists. usually it's mongodb hipsters complaining randomly, so i'd developed a (too-)generic "ignore 'em all" filter :p ☟︎
Framedragger: as long as the 'check hash' operation is quick enough, otherwise DoS magnet (that's a very alf'y comment i guess)
trinque: emphatically not as "lets translate SQL to whatever a URL is allowed to do"
Framedragger: phf: thanks for pointing me in the right direction. scriba now reads log as byte sequence, tries decoding each line as utf-8, if that fails, then does latin-1. seems to be fine.
asciilifeform: i might like vi more if it weren't also associated in my head with the years i toiled as a sysadmin slave...
asciilifeform: 'A language designed to live in the paper-tape world had to have some major constraints. First, paper tape is slow. Really slow. And punching tape is a miserable process. So you really wanted to keep things as short as possible. So the syntax of TECO is, to put it mildly, absolutely mind-boggling. Every character is a command. And I don't mean "every punctuation character", or "every letter". Every character is a command. Letters, nu
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 15:26 mircea_popescu: inbcidentally asciilifeform as per that discussion of how much it costs to index etc, phuctor is a total google poison.
asciilifeform: (even as text editor, i use it RELUCTANTLY, because there is literally no functional alternative for the sorts of things that i edit)
asciilifeform: possibly no one will believe me, but unlike most 'ideological' emacsists, i do not abuse it as irc client / wwwtron / reactor controller / etc
mircea_popescu: this is functioning as intended.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly and i guess unhelpfully, i'm wondering if once specified as above, you don't also get a router for cheap (through implementing a sort of physics where routes attract each other and are repulsed by things etc)
asciilifeform: to give some vague idea of complexity, 'eagle cad' is of about ~same binary mass as trb.
asciilifeform: (nobody wants to look at a 128bit bus as motherfucking 128 lines running in parallel!!!)
asciilifeform: phf, mircea_popescu : that's aaaalmost all of it. you also need, in especially large schematics, to collapse buses into single, thick lines (in 'eagle', normally blue, but it does not matter, so long as distinct) and the leadouts from said buses are normal nets, which are marked.
asciilifeform: trinque: no good, at least not as such, they are stored as strings of decimal digits.
asciilifeform: let's approach the problem bottom-up, as gedankenexperiment. it is np-complete problem to draw a polished, readable schematic from netlist only. what, therefore, is the minimal 'helping hand' that would let the machine draw schematic from netlist in polynomial time. that is the necessary format, and nothing else.
asciilifeform: phf: aha, it is not as simple as simply throwing away 'after 3rd decimal place' or the like.
pete_dushenski: it's branded as 'evil chinese opiod flooding in from kongkouver port' around here. so like reverse opium warz, ie. non-round eyes fiatolistas are profiting and this is a Bad Thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly happened, usg is primarily known as a drug dealing criminal organisation.
asciilifeform: falls apart if you so much as say unkind word to it...
mircea_popescu: it's also ~when i stopped paying any attention. last time i played games as they came out was 1999/2000
asciilifeform: and microshit forbade gameport, as, i quote, 'security risk'
mircea_popescu: inbcidentally asciilifeform as per that discussion of how much it costs to index etc, phuctor is a total google poison. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "for banal www as long as i don't look for things anyone in the libertard camp may object to, conceivably"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 14:58 mircea_popescu: so you know, they're doing their patriotic duty to pretend so as to create the aggregate dogvomit upon which "nobody could have predicted" in case there's any responsibility to allocate later.
mircea_popescu: so you know, they're doing their patriotic duty to pretend so as to create the aggregate dogvomit upon which "nobody could have predicted" in case there's any responsibility to allocate later. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in proper terms : even the empire figured out the incredibly tenuous position of google, who a) provides no useful service and b) survives exactly out of yahoo-style ponzi scheme (as described by paul graham, one of its architects pre dot com bubble)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no! they aren't garbage, as you sdaid yourself - nobody would want to see the netlist, because they'd want to see the "unofficial" LINES.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 13:38 mircea_popescu: how the fuck is it that those supposedly ubervaluable engineers that don't exist anywhere else and can't be replicated (as per microsoft idiot) nevertheless DO NOT COMPREHEND the difference between the present conditional and the pluperfect conditional.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is it that those supposedly ubervaluable engineers that don't exist anywhere else and can't be replicated (as per microsoft idiot) nevertheless DO NOT COMPREHEND the difference between the present conditional and the pluperfect conditional. ☟︎
Framedragger: yeah, would be great to have ssl certs etc all in the same place, timestamped, so one could track history, to an extent. (and then be able to offer realtime scans and alerts as a service, say...)
Framedragger: i guess as long as everything's stored in a sane manner and format, it's no big diff.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: nono - sorry for confusing - "older" as in "previously seen in same logfile", it's for my internal use so i don't go insane. all of this is from single scan even in 13-14 june.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, it was simple when i made it" "yes, if i define three letter strings as various pieces of literature, i'll be able to "write" whole books by saying agafufu. so what of it."
mircea_popescu: i fear the only way forward is for data to be base64'd, deedbotted, and then referenced as such in code.
mod6: All in all, I agree that blobs do not belong in a vpatch. As stated, they are for readable, grokable, text only.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 02:51 phf: i will flatten this shit, or help me god. so far the solution i figured that doesn't require writing code or using dodgy third party software is to use the video as a material texture inside a sphere in blender. with some 3d space camera shuffling i can produce two separate video streams, one of knuth and one of slides, but the result looks like dog so far.
phf: i will flatten this shit, or help me god. so far the solution i figured that doesn't require writing code or using dodgy third party software is to use the video as a material texture inside a sphere in blender. with some 3d space camera shuffling i can produce two separate video streams, one of knuth and one of slides, but the result looks like dog so far. ☟︎
asciilifeform: '“This year, our Learning Innovation team is going to be piloting the use of a new virtual reality 360-degree video camera that will actually allow all those people tuning in over the internet to attend the lecture as if they were physically in the auditorium,”'
mircea_popescu: to justify why there's no legal recourse for bad software - and guess what, it stands just as well to explain why it is better to murder and rape than to microsoft.
asciilifeform: if my sig is of 'A35A727799941F46F4500F25389F21F4E995F64AC65341080052EC014A8BACD76D992D0C7A5B0250502D', that thing will appear ~to naked eye~ in the pcode as 'zA35A727799941F46F4500F25389F21F4E995F64AC65341080052EC014A8BACD76D992D0C7A5B0250502D' .
mircea_popescu: as an interesting side effect, "random file"
mircea_popescu: trinque care to look into if you can bash the signature out of detachsig and attach it as clearsigned ?
mircea_popescu: certainly exists as svg now as well.
mircea_popescu: yeah. but do you agree the actual problem is the lack of a tmsr-cad ? as far as "right things" go ?
mircea_popescu: give me something other than a 5mb dxf to work with, as per this "Short when i wrote it" ?
jurov: as opposed to <!DOCTYPE shit blabla "http://webserver/blabla.dtd"> - if you feed this to xml decoder, it gets tempted to fetch it
mircea_popescu: svg however better - it can be read, as text, and drawn, by hand. png, not so much.
phf: asciilifeform: nothing at this point, none of the xml parses uses DTDs (as predicted by naggum)
asciilifeform: it is more or less as simple as a schematic gets in life
mircea_popescu: wut ? i'm looking at it as it is.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "png as v format" is inept beyond belief. let alone "i wish to inspect this matter and can't use my eyes", it's worse : "suppose i want this to be 3x as large" "oh can't do that". well da fuck.
asciilifeform: just as there are no tmsr chip fabs, etc
mircea_popescu: just as an artefact of the lifes and times.
phf: so my proposed "put everything into prelude" solution preserves the literacy angle, and uses prelude as a "annotation" section, i.e. space for verbiage, supporting material etc. this will work for free with things like btcbase. can also pack it into a tar file and sign ~that~, but breaks a lot of tools
mircea_popescu: ie, the reason koch-gpg-clearsing worked ok for us for a long time is that while flawed as alf correctly (and repeatedly for a year now) points out, nevertheless its hole falls atop a hole of v, namely that it doesn't do "-----"
phf: you can't do anything with a binary blob, in which case vpatch serves exclusively as a dumb payload or a container
asciilifeform: jurov: may as well take the cad proggy's turd then
phf: mircea_popescu: i get the problem, but you can always some up with a strict no-blob solution, whether or not it's practical. in this case include your entire training set, that, being go boards, can literally be represented as ascii x/o drawings
jurov: MIME avoids this by generating unique magic strings as delimiters after the fact. but you don't want to, i guess.
asciilifeform: it'll be presented as experimental (skull'n'crossbones) genesis, and up for comment.
mircea_popescu: phf trinque mod6 does this notion sound as idiotic to you as it does to him ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform : as a palleative : could we actually just fucking edit koch-rsa so that "----" rather than "-" becomes a symbol and deploy this on deedbot ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 18:46 asciilifeform: btw for folx who are thick as a brick i will point out, that i SPECIFICALLY DO NOT WANT vdiff's '---' turned by idiot koch liquishit into '- ---'
adlai: my intent was not nubbins's "you guys are operating badly", but rather "you guys are operating differently from how i expected, could you please educate me as to why my assumption is incorrect?"
adlai: i do hope that identifying my assumptions as such as improvement upon leaving them implicit.
mircea_popescu: minding own business, as reflected in, for eg, having actually come up with something useful at some point, and also in the negative in, eg, not asking me to do your homework out of published data, is key.
adlai: asciilifeform: hypothetical program gets two files as input, old version and new version. proceeds to make diff itself, rather than relying on gnudiff; doesn't need to use awk matching since it's not massaging grudiff output but rather producing the vpatch directly itself, thus bypassing this magic string. am i missing something?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mr mold blew own cover years ago when he linked to an academic paper he had written as undergrad
asciilifeform: phf: understand that the schematic as represented in the png is what ended up as the board. whereas if i were to redraw it by hand, that is an additional PROMISE
phf: asciilifeform: i suggested one, i'm still suggesting it. philosophically correct solution would be to reduce graph to something that can be reasoned about as text. note that i'm not even sure if i'm prepared to advocate for that as the main way forward, but it's an option.
mircea_popescu: we appreciate the compliment ; they can go serenade all the dumb cunts that don't know better, as before.
adlai: as i see it the problem is that a valid gnudiff output is a false positive for the awk script, this actually has nothing to do with b64 that just happens to have produced the first example of this output
asciilifeform: oh and yes, it occurred as FIRST CHAR IN LINE
asciilifeform: btw for folx who are thick as a brick i will point out, that i SPECIFICALLY DO NOT WANT vdiff's '---' turned by idiot koch liquishit into '- ---' ☟︎
asciilifeform: AS THEY ARE
adlai: ugh, sadly internet collections of quotes from "The Phantom Tollbooth" lack the one about valid reasons... left as exercise to reader
phf: goes back to our conversation about "why you no respect ptacek". since their opinions are not hinged on any deliberately lived experience, they change them according to fashions. if you happen to be fashion aligned you'll think that they are geniuses, but as soon as you start doing your own thing, you realize just how superficial they are
thestringpuller: Luke-jr was trying to warn people similarly to you as to "paper wallet" crap-olade. And "the self proclaimed experts" stated, " He doesn't believe that any security sensitive activity should happen in a web browser, disregarding the fact that today's JavaScript actually has excellent cryptographic bonafides -- like a random number generator that's generally stronger than whatever the host operating system can offer."
asciilifeform: adlai: if all as planned, end of week
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-as-seen-by-mircescu-one-year-later/ << Trilema - Eulora as seen by Mircescu, one year later.
mircea_popescu: as a for instance.
mircea_popescu: dude, you're such a nut. they make 1mn addresses, combine them into sets of 10, try each combination as payout address for the block.
mod6: asciilifeform: also, there is a techincal reason for going front -> back, as opposed to back -> front.