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shrysr: mp_en_viaje: i thought the 2nd solution browser independent? I'm using the firefox dev edition
asciilifeform: shrysr: indeed your select display seems to work
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i thought progression were more usually e.g. x -> y -> rapper -> p -> q -> beggar rather than x -> beggar -> y
BingoBoingo: shrysr: You select thing works from here too
mp_en_viaje: shrysr, must be the browser, because it works as expected here.
mp_en_viaje: note : this guess is bolstered by sampling conversation with a lot of their "girlfriends"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( what does beggar do if 'not meet goal' ?? on street corner, he could walk to new corner. but what's the 'patreon' equiv ?? ) << Actual pichis pointedly can't walk to any other corner as they wish because bum fights
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: I implemented the 2nd article's directions - just tried... not working on my browser
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, move on to being rapper ?
asciilifeform: ( what does beggar do if 'not meet goal' ?? on street corner, he could walk to new corner. but what's the 'patreon' equiv ?? )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what does this mean , for beggar to have 'goal' ? maybe i'm thick, but i thought 'goal' was to fill the hat with as many coins as possible erry day ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: caught any ? << Caught a deep impression that US, EE, and SA poverteneur goals are converging to the same 400 USD/month
mp_en_viaje: this might be the first time i actually get to say to engineer that reported complete failure "oh, actually, it works ?!"
asciilifeform: if it's 1 of those lulzy 'faux crypto via js' things, costs having-to-login-from-js-browser neh. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: i dun think this costs anything
asciilifeform of the 'get the cheapest astrologist' school of thought , on those occasions when must use email
asciilifeform: what's 'proton' ? disposable spamgourmet thing ?
mp_en_viaje: imagine that wonder of "security"
mp_en_viaje: in other sad lulz : protonmail.com too pantsuit to... show you the god damned headers.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: also their pw reset mechanism is broken, i've been trying to log in & cancel acct for 3+ yrs nao (erry 6mo or so) and been to their india-powered 'support line' even. no dice.
mp_en_viaje: and they know to send it from bingo@patreon ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: they send spam like it's 1999 lol
mp_en_viaje: i still suispect some kind of ungodly manipulation, because no mailinglist was confirmed or anything like that.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, asciilifeform somehow patreon sent unsolicited email to the email address i published earlier today
a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 09:21 mp_en_viaje: ahahaha what the everloving fuck! bingo@patreon ?!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1925914 << prolly he subscribed to somebody's pay www ? i defo did at 1 pt ( orlol's ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 07:00 mp_en_viaje: btw, i got like 60 pingbacks from you, that are all dupes. i mean... http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-95245 exists, but now there;s also one from http://bingology.net/2013/09/26/anti-bitcoin-bitcoin-apps-part-3-gliph-in-particular/?b=Rippl&e=#select
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1925907 << I noticed the blog was missing incoming some incoming trackback on older posts, so I poked the DB a bit. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the 'session' abstraction aint even cardboard , it is toilet paper. yes, i get it, ftp or irc box might want to represent a user as having a 'session' that might time out etc. but why give 9000 flaky (or malicious) routers between the user & server the ability to close the session whenever ~they~ feel like it ?
asciilifeform: ^ i.e. there are at least ~4~ successive impedance-mismatched layers of liquishit , if you count ~server~ (e.g. hunchentoot) . ~5~ if you count reader's browser !
asciilifeform: fuckers who designed the L3 shit and the ones who specced the L4 shit didn't add enough, here come the L7 idiots who, not being satisfied with a "file transfer protocol" decide to "support" file transfers over HTTP; and since files may be as large as, say, 1TB, then yes, splitting them into small chunks is very much preferable to sending the whole thing right away.'
asciilifeform: 'Now, as if this wasn't enough, TCP also has a (transport layer) segment size, which must fit into a so-called "Maximum Segment Size" (MSS), which must be smaller than the MTU, because we also need to fit lower-layer headers and all that. Otherwise TCP isn't concerned too much with this, but misconfiguration can cause problems with congestion windows and whatnot, and we sure as hell don't want this shit to blow up. Finally, as if the
asciilifeform: will reproduce bit of spyked's text for the log :
asciilifeform: as if the ludicrous cpu & bw waste of tcp weren't enuff, it also conveniently groups (with said grouping being entirely plaintext) 'sessions' for hitler to moar conveniently store & read.
asciilifeform: ever wonder why heathens still fascinated, like chukchas with radio found in taiga, with 'bittorrent' ? it's because warez goes at ~line rate~ over 'bittorrent'. and at maybe 2/3 line rate on http on a good weather day. why? cuz bt , despite authored by idiot, ~let go of tcpism~ ! ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 23:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thinking about it -- 'zxc' strikes me as a classic case of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-25#1866191 and impedence mismatch generally. it was clearly written as attempt to 'deterministic scheduler on ??? iron/os', but fails, cuz you can't actually spackle away impedence mismatch b/w the underlying platform and the proggy
a111: Logged on 2018-10-25 19:10 asciilifeform: when you add compatibility spackle, serious reader is not saved from reading the thing you spackled over -- on the contrary nao he has to read the ~original~ rubbish ~plus~ your spackle, however much it weighs.
asciilifeform: the net aint a serial port!! it dun behave like a serial port! and the spackle dun do any good, it cracks and peels when you so much as blow on it ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: tcp was a 'gift' of profound retardation that 'keeps on giving', even to moar obvious extent than e.g. unix. it is single-handedly responsible for ~100% of the backbreaking complexicrud of apache, ssh, ftp, etc
asciilifeform: spyked: imho put link to this thread, is even better than pasting the 'comment'
spyked: agreed re. tcpism, the "persistent connection" abstraction is entirely unfit for this kind of thing.
asciilifeform: on top of this : could just as easily serve a page from cluster of boxes instead of merely 1 (there's nothing preventing the slices from being generated wherever you want) ☟︎
spyked: asciilifeform, sorry for the annoyance. will certainly do, but the effort to add comments is non-trivial. I'ma try to add structured commenting (box + comments section for each post) in a few weeks from now, but it'll still be a manually operated thing on my side for a while.
asciilifeform: for yrs nao, asciilifeform thought, 'why the everliving fuck not serve page as a set of luby packets'
asciilifeform: spyked: imho your 'hunchentoot' vivisection illustrates important point : just how much of the complexity of that thing is on acct of idjit tcpism's shit abstractions, i.e. the lengths to which it goes to pretend that the machines aint exchanging short packets in quasi-reliable ordering ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: he did say he'll put them in manually.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-26 18:53 mp_en_viaje: im guessing for this one time http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fn1VH/?raw=true will have to be it ; but for the love of christ, what are you doing to me here ? am i going to simply ignore your articles because i know for a fact i'm not interestreded in reading something i can't comment on and you're forcing on me the dilemma of either not commenting at all or else losing it in pastes ? this won't do, if i use an hour to read a post i
asciilifeform: spyked: can pleeeez haz comments on your www ? ( at the risk of repeating mp_en_viaje's , srsly, 'no comment box' is quite discouraging in re reading) ☝︎
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/098-hunchentoot-iv.html << The Tar Pit -- Hunchentoot: acceptor code review
mp_en_viaje: really there's no way to understand the wot outside of the general theory of the field it resolves, oracles and sybils and all that.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 23:01 mp_en_viaje: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806991 tradition i don't even have enough information to distinguish between the case where "phf bleeding to death in a minsk ditch" ; "phf in love forgot all about world" ; "phf kidnapped by unreported alien invasion" or literally any other alternative. nfi how to approach it, either, tried everything i could think of.
mp_en_viaje: this is why the unknowns problem is an absolute bar to a high rating -- if people keep asking me questions about X that i can't answer, ima eventually drop their rating. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: lol in a concerted effort to not make mistakes, shrysr 's description of his understanding of the wot thing became significantly vague-r. and of course mistakes still make it in, eg "This rating represents what that person means to you in whatever way you like." is specifically untrue. the number you associated with a rating represens your guess at the likelihood that you will be able to answer a question about that party asked b
mp_en_viaje: early trilema articles were short ; then got longer and more involved over time
mp_en_viaje: ave1, it's better to adjust article length to your span, and let it work itself gradually.
ave1: I also have to work on my attention span for writing, I'm getting impatient half-way through.
lobbes: though I must say, Pizarro uptime has proven to be far superior than any of the heathen options thus far
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: lobbesbot. The heathen VPS it is hosted on is migrating their servers. Hopefully will be back online in 24 hours (I didn't want 100% of my stuff on Pizarro; potential central point of failure and all) ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: ahahaha what the everloving fuck! bingo@patreon ?! ☟︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/how-plugrushcom-got-itself-banned-or-heres-what-business-is-not/ << Trilema -- How plugrush.com got itself banned, or Here's what business is not
mp_en_viaje: anyways ima publish all these bingology trackbkacs seeing how they use the neat select thing, improvement over old ver.
mp_en_viaje: btw, i got like 60 pingbacks from you, that are all dupes. i mean... http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-95245 exists, but now there;s also one from http://bingology.net/2013/09/26/anti-bitcoin-bitcoin-apps-part-3-gliph-in-particular/?b=Rippl&e=#select ☟︎
feedbot: http://blog.mod6.net/2019/08/testing-bvts-blockwise-read-vpatch/ << mod6's Blog -- Testing bvt's Blockwise Read vpatch
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I'll dig up some code to restore recent comments to the sidebar
mp_en_viaje: defaulted on both. wtf fucked in the head/
mp_en_viaje: anyway. point remains, lmi, bolix, etc folk had absolute obligations : a) to work together ; b) to not work with morons.
asciilifeform: for 1968 -- no, not terrible.
mp_en_viaje: the dec wasn't evne that terribru
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: thinkin' moar re the 'monkeys' -- imho these were the folx continuing to build dec clones , crapples & other micros, and in the inevitable march to microshit hell. rather than the bolix/lmi folx. these, imho, did Right Thing. (even if ended by plugging embrasure with torso)
mp_en_viaje: also some amphi transporters etc.
mp_en_viaje: but these are tiny tactical improvements, do not add up to stealth.
mp_en_viaje: some specific improvements are available where, eg, ship is not more than 20cm over surface, so the waves provide some protection from skimming missile
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: what even is the meaning of 'stealth ship' given satellite, cheap networked sonobuoys, etc ?
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 18:17 ave1: Btw would same stealth go for ships? It seems to me a dimension less. (Not that the littoral can float)
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925868 << out of the question, such a thing as "stealth ship". friction is 5th power of speed, 3rd power of density, a ship can never move fast enough to ever be stealth. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 18:15 ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925807, I did not know. Whole thread is the by far the best analysis I've read.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925866 << yes, kinda what the republic is. "best analysis anyone ever reads" ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: this is moral obligation of man, not merely "mp is being vindictive" or w/e the pantsuit bullshit. man has moral obligation, unavoidable and indelible, to repress monkey.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: where, in your analysis, was the man, and where -- the monkey ?
mp_en_viaje: in terms exactly equivalent to "you are monkeys, not men, drop dead"
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 17:53 asciilifeform: it is entirely unclear to asciilifeform what either 'oughta have done instead', other than 'go home to bottle'. whole affair walked on the very edge of the technological possibility of the time -- and arguably stepped right over the edge of what was commercially practical
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925864 << all the men involved should have banded together, pointedly and specifically denied monkeys any cover. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: ^ Big news is the Peso Argentino. from 0.55/1.15 to 0.70/1.00 in compra/venta
BingoBoingo: China's building destoryers by the 50 while playing with a second hand aircraft carrier
BingoBoingo: ave1: Ships are slow and mostly useful for how much they can emit in radar and missiles
ave1: Btw would same stealth go for ships? It seems to me a dimension less. (Not that the littoral can float) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 08:37 mp_en_viaje: but, coincidentally, since they were building 1e5 rocket sites, they decided to also build 1e5 radars. cuz it makes sense, i guess, passibely, whatever.
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925807, I did not know. Whole thread is the by far the best analysis I've read. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: the 1 commercial variant that was defo nowhere near being on the table, was 'consumer'. when a MB of dram cost ~same as truck, there was no question that any such machine could be purchased by anyone other than large org. the only dispute could be re what kinda org sold to, and how.
asciilifeform: it is entirely unclear to asciilifeform what either 'oughta have done instead', other than 'go home to bottle'. whole affair walked on the very edge of the technological possibility of the time -- and arguably stepped right over the edge of what was commercially practical ☟︎
asciilifeform: mushroom rms's narrative is , granted, nonsense, where 'bolix sold soul to devil, lmi -- not sold'. both sold to devil, 2 diff devils. lmi's gambit was 'we'll self-fund by hand-soldering machines to sell back to mit'
asciilifeform: ( from strictly archaeological pov -- noftsker's bolix, with borrowed moneys, lived ~decade longer than lmi, and produced substantially moar interesting & intact ruins, but this is perhaps orthogonal to the orig q )
mp_en_viaje: nor to me.
asciilifeform: and in light of e.g. http://trilema.com/2015/you-know-what-gets-no-airplay-unflattering-truth/ it aint even obvious to asciilifeform that 'hey they clearly oughta have all gone with noftsker'
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 17:00 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925827 << except it's not two agents, but more like three to five, and they behave like children in spite of being this current civilisation's specific heroes (id est, older men with knowledge). it's like if there was ru folk tale of "then the three ilya muromets fought each other like morons while potato blight took over the land"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925843 << must point out, this portrait is only visible in retrospect. the playing characters themselves were evidently quite convinced that they were fighting over a future mega-fortune, rather than bread crust ☝︎
BingoBoingo: The derps are derping about a piece of paper from this spring as though it is some alfajor like establihed part of the culture.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news, this Sunday is a pre-referendum on an October referendum to repeal the soon to be outgoing government's recent "lay trans"
mp_en_viaje: when you get to be the top man you get to be deemed to have "contribute at the margins" of ~everything, it's kinda what the definition of the term is in integrated world.
BingoBoingo: Obama did contribute at the margins by ending production of the F-22 which is very similar to the F-35 except that the 22 was designed to succeed as a plane without compromises because plane has to be designed to accomodate derps that want to plane from helicopter carriers