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jurov: there's (possibly water-related) bug capping fps at ~12 even at some decent setups (such as mine radeon 7790)
pete_dushenski: let this therefore be remembered as the time alf pissed away 0.3btc (30mn ecu) on his eulorabox build. but hey, nothing like a little deficit to urge on the bot-crafting imagination! watch alf knock down all four hackathon prizes now.
asciilifeform: http://www.insecam.org/en/view/168264/#camstream << the strangest i/o relay i've ever seen. lamp is hooked, by all indications, to the 'network contact' box. as is the toggle.
asciilifeform: but also i was referring to ~people~ as much as to algos.
asciilifeform: (keccak or another hash can be abused as a stream cipher, but it is precisely 'retarded homebrew', i will leave the reason ~why~ as an exercise)
asciilifeform: at least in as far as public lit.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to create the up-node : "stop doing stupid shit" is the universal pill to de-usg the world. stop doing stupid shit with crypto, as contemplarted here, there's no nsa nor any possibility of nsa. stop "plea bargain"ing, there's no us justice system. stop using us banks, there's no us finance. stop chasing the web-revolutionary-app-nonsense, there's no "us technical lead". stop trying to marry women there's no "5th wave
asciilifeform: especially transpositions as we know them. i'm still waiting to hear why s-boxes are fixed, rather than entirely configured by the key, ever.
mircea_popescu: which is why the republican strategy in sociopolitical cryptography is to isolate the nsa assets - the kochs and dreppers and schneiers + a bevy of small fry boecks etc. let them sit on hacker news and upvote each other to death, but otherwise, outside of the usg reservation, they may not opine and they may not be used as reference.
Framedragger: also, as you noted earlier, there's a good chance a bunch of ssh *client* keys were generated on those machines, too, so also possible to try to bruteforce-login with generated keys (to servers which have broken rngs)
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1733 << as seen here, good chunk of the first N ssh keys to pop were tropos boxen.
mircea_popescu: ~that~ deployed, as in, i'd be surprised if 50k exist altogerher
asciilifeform: (and that's just 1 ver; iirc various others identify as plain ssh)
mircea_popescu: and now i shall proceed to put to electronic paper my definitive solution for global warming - both the current hallucinated kind as well as any other.
mats: its not as bad in the city
mats: i gtfo soon as i was an adult, to live outside of the reality bubble
ben_vulpes: compulsive nail tidying is 2x as expensive if you do both hands
mats: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-27/singapore-defaults-seen-as-bellwether-for-asia-distress-in-2017
phf: you as in you in your code
asciilifeform: for some reason i picture the 'baliste' in 'dune' as working like this.
ben_vulpes: as you yourself pointed out
gabriel_laddel_p: Incidentally, it is pronounced "maza-mune". Yes, yes, as you wrote is technically how they say it in japan, but it sounds stupid.
ben_vulpes: otherwise may as well nuke everything in the unrecoverable branch
asciilifeform: phun phakt: as an undergrad i worked for the d00d who curated the 'Вега' probes. but he was already, naturally, in usa, and sorta old, nutty.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 01:56 phf: i'd write it as (cmd &optional args &key input), because you always have to provide cmd (where's right now you can write (run) and the compiler won't catch it), more often than not you have to provide args and sometimes you have to provide input
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 01:58 phf: also as a rule you don't really want to let string output streams escape their scope. they don't have standard type (one cmucl it's lisp::string-output-stream for example), so you can't test for it, and for all intents and purposes they act as incomplete builders: you can't do anything with them except get their value, so why not get value there and then?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 01:56 phf: i'd write it as (cmd &optional args &key input), because you always have to provide cmd (where's right now you can write (run) and the compiler won't catch it), more often than not you have to provide args and sometimes you have to provide input
mircea_popescu: "To whomever it may concern - I strongly advise against hiring the bearer of this letter, as she is not sufficiently qualified to take a piss."
asciilifeform: ahahaha, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1588427 ☝︎
phf: also as a rule you don't really want to let string output streams escape their scope. they don't have standard type (one cmucl it's lisp::string-output-stream for example), so you can't test for it, and for all intents and purposes they act as incomplete builders: you can't do anything with them except get their value, so why not get value there and then? ☟︎
phf: i'd write it as (cmd &optional args &key input), because you always have to provide cmd (where's right now you can write (run) and the compiler won't catch it), more often than not you have to provide args and sometimes you have to provide input ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: (as seen in the 'act from cause' thing etc)
jurov: as paperclip'd nazi scientists, they would work for anyone who allows them to, imo
ben_vulpes: it is called as the man says "node.js"
mircea_popescu: it is of the same type as the openbsd compiling for vaxen
mircea_popescu: but as a principle, the shell exists for a human operator. shelling from code is much like taking knives and forks, melting them, and trying to dropforge tools. they WERE ALREADY metal that was forged into something. go to that source, change that from knives to wrenches or w/e you are doing. no need to involve the whole supermarket chain to sell you metal ingots in fork shape at 20bux a half dozen
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i say "keep shelling to it for as long as that's what you do, but once you change that change it to something sane"
mircea_popescu: now then. can the lispheads live with the idea of an ada tmsr-cryptolib ? perhaps with it as a reference and a lisp copy ?
mircea_popescu: will probably end up with a tmsr crypto lib anyway, might as well start thinking about it.
mod6: not as of yet. working on it.
trinque: that it came out as a trollface smiley is a sign from the gods.
mircea_popescu: "the whitehouse website based in maryland" as the expression went.
mircea_popescu: as a point of sovereign strategy, you always want to trade with the smallest and toughest of the neighbours - it's productive, plus it softens them up ; and to loot and pillage the largest, softest of neighbours (preferably under the guise of "being allies" and "keeping the peace" if possible, but outright rapine otherwise).
mircea_popescu: alf likes to assert "x profits from it" but this assertion is kinda nude. apple benefits from xcode about as much as rbs benefits from western world being made of chickens.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-13 00:54 asciilifeform: 'carding' as we know it is actually a creature of u.s. and british banks. which profit from it.
mircea_popescu: as in, you know, "i'm sure this is great and all, and the not working totally incidental"
phf: asciilifeform: i literally don't spend ~any time~ learning web on my own. i simply have this unprecedented apparently ability to sit the fuck down and read the documentation/source code for longer then it takes to google twitch. spend 3 hours of reading docs??? forget about it, i might as well be a wizard of some sort.
ben_vulpes: amusingly, sha512sum shows drepper as an author on this particular system
mircea_popescu: as exemplified in the logs i have at least one example of guy learning to program on eulora ; and 0 examples in unity.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 17:13 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pray tell why do you recommed unity in favour of eulora ? eulora bots exist as a matter of fact, with people hacking on them and repl-ing the results after a 10 minute compile. what equivalent to this does unity offer ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the issue occurs on the slippery slope of "executive", as in seinfeld.
asciilifeform: american ceo is same street monkey but with added jet propulsion, as american street scum, and this is impossible to hide from the latter
asciilifeform: american 'ceo' frittered away 'mandate of heaven', just as african 'doctor' is the same monkey but with four story mansion instead of 1-story cement hut, but no detectable additional curative power, vs other monkey
asciilifeform: (orlol translates this as 'bum garden. what's yer problem, it's just as much a 'garden' as an office park is a 'park' !'
mircea_popescu: coworking space is harem without master or tits. also known as refuse pit.
phf: there's a gamedev coworking in philly, the space is primarily rented by some team that had a handful of successful releases in appstore. naturally games written in unity. they can't rent by themselves, but as a minor celebrity (game featured on appstore frontpage for a whole two weeks!1) they can share rent with a handful of other 1-2 people teams. i went there once before finding all this out, because was expecting a scene squat. after
mircea_popescu: and the ~only way~ innocent grasshopper could even know about this is if graybeard can be arsed to go through these motions - which you couldn't pay me to do as a regular thing.
mircea_popescu: dude. quaternions. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME OMFG i'm hyperventilating over here. to quote their fucking manual, "Quaternions have some advantages when it comes to gimbal lock and smooth interpolation. Their main downside is that they rely on advanced math -- math that even experienced developers often find difficult and confusing. [...] People very rarely interact with quaternions directly. As it turns out, it's almost always eas
mircea_popescu: what, you think it's the fox's option as to whether to chase the chicken ?
phf: right, in a sense that "pros" are as much of an illusion
mircea_popescu: if the average programmer were literate as opposed to marginally qualified clucker, a) configuration wouldn't be confused with programming and b) vice-versa either.
mircea_popescu: and the whole thing relies on a certain blindness of "why is the tomato green on your cash register but blue in my plate and shouldn't tomatoes be red to begin with" which is the very bread and butter of both "mit is the premier science and technology institution at the world series" as well as "thank you for your leadership we will conqueliberate mosul in two weeks three years ago. or four."
asciilifeform: about same as mcdonalds employee has input to the deep fryer machine.
diana_coman: getting things going is seen as "copy/paste stuff really, no need to come up with anything there
diana_coman: Framedragger, it's not the syntax, it's the whole "approach"; though if you find *that* acceptable, I guess you'll find planeshift code just as acceptable with all its 20-level dependency hell, mix-and-match mess of concepts (hey, what IS a concept anyway and what do you mean there is something other than interface anyway)
Framedragger: http://catlikecoding.com/unity/tutorials/ << some nice shit. granted, not the same as me showing something impressive
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no repl but it's very easy to get things going in unity. though i found it to be clunky in the sense of not being able to contain simple project in one's head, as you have to look at parameters around the IDE/project as well as source code (parts of which are 'attached' to objects). but it's very usable.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pray tell why do you recommed unity in favour of eulora ? eulora bots exist as a matter of fact, with people hacking on them and repl-ing the results after a 10 minute compile. what equivalent to this does unity offer ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: fancy we're at the sad stage of decay where i am going to use a vague memory of another as to something i myself said as a reference point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you happen to have link to original discussion of older us male who goes to orcland under delusion of being roman army veteran, gets used as cattle by locals ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i think it's poetic, like a month that keeps increasing in day count as i add more pictures. a sort of bizarre astronomy of a planet that slowly distances itself from the sun thereby decelerating and thereby more and more earth days are needed to complete its monthly cycle.
mircea_popescu: o wow look at this, etymolone.com has it! "Rare 17c., revived from late 18c. in sense "to strive (alongside another) for the attainment of something" and regarded early 19c. in Britain as a Scottish or American word. Market sense is from 1840s (perhaps a back-formation from competition); athletics sense attested by 1857." is exactly correct for once.
mircea_popescu: hence why it's even fucking called "competition", from latin for "to strive together", competere. same com as in commune.
ben_vulpes: i feel a great disturbance in the force, as though a thousand seo experts were suddenly rousted from sweet slumber
ben_vulpes: at this rate the kids will actually stop using google, as it doesn't show porn, point them towards pirated content or you know actually work at all anymore
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-26#1590744 << fwiw i did this for a living, for years. about as much joy as mining coal. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and there is NO and can NOT be such a thing as a 'sane key fingerprint.' see thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-23#1572717 ☝︎
asciilifeform: the linked item was made for a specific, narrow purpose, for butterfly collection of pgp keys as-found-in-the-wild.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-26#1590797 << aye, although per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-25#1590640 you'll need to rename your seals as well ☝︎☝︎
Framedragger: i guess one may have a database of keys, as well as a table of signed-with-key nicknames which establish someone claiming a nickname for key? sort of gns. alternative scheme is to have any kind of aliasing be local, as per gossipd. less convenient for things like looking up nickname in wot.deedbot.org of course.
Framedragger: thanks for clarifying... so then it's just the same key. and things like 'IP of this key' really is a separate matter. (it was put into gpg user field as a matter of convenience of course.) should have been obvious...
Framedragger: with regards to keyserver, my use of them makes me biased in the sense of thinking of keys as necessarily having user IDs in them. "key has some particular holder". not really the case i guess :)
Framedragger: iirc 'user' field was needed as multiple different keys belonging to different users may have same N
jurov: have you considered using N alone as the ID? or it's impractically long?
Framedragger: (well, the scheme as proposed does use a particular hashing func (sha256), so that part is contestable i suppose.)
trinque: could as easily switch to asciilifeform's hashing scheme. is it described somewhere?
shinohai: BingoBoingo: the text is the same as the article I submitted earlier?
Framedragger: is there a tmsr keyserver, in the sense of one being able to link to a gpg fingerprint known to WoT, as a permalink?
mircea_popescu: the judge ate it, of course, but let it be pointed out this is so fucking ridiculous as to defy any reason. there is NO information privy to the USG that is secret from the world, except by case of obscurity.
mircea_popescu: check that out, there's no actual fips 180 past 1 published online. because why the fuck would there be. anyway, i can't source this "The SHA512/384 spec says that the final bit length of the message is to be stored as a 128-bit (!) integer at the end of the message." assertion. as best it can be determined the blocks are either 512 (for sanity) or 1024 bits (for 384 hmac etc)
mircea_popescu: n processed by the SHA-1 as n 512-bit blocks."
mircea_popescu: h of a padded message a multiple of 512. The SHA-1 sequentially processes blocks of 512 bits when computing the message digest. The following specifies how this padding shall be performed. As a summary, a "1" followed by m "0"s followed by a 64-bit integer are appended to the end of the message to produce a padded message of length 512 * n. The 64-bit integer is l, the length of the original message. The padded message is the
mircea_popescu: "The SHA-1 is used to compute a message digest for a message or data file that is provided as input. The message or data file should be considered to be a bit string. The length of the message is the number of bits in the message (the empty message has length 0). If the number of bits in a message is a multiple of 8, for compactness we can represent the message in hex. The purpose of message padding is to make the total lengt
Framedragger: if the latter does *not* work, you first make a noncommittal vow not to deal with android in the future, swear, drink a bit, and then proceed with aes key extraction as per http://nelenkov.blogspot.lt/2015/06/decrypting-android-m-adopted-storage.html ; you need to root phone, which may reset and wipe the device, so check if that's even possible to do; don't forget to drink. cloning worked for me. don't forget to drink.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 15:51 Framedragger: i don't suppose anyone here has messed with android 'adopted' storage? (use sd card as internal encrypted android storage.) i'm trying to recover files from a half-broken 32GB sd card which has weirdo android-internal partitions and encryption.. oh god
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/92-presumed-dead-as-russian-passenger-plane-headed-to-syria-crashes/ << Qntra - 92 Presumed Dead As Russian Passenger Plane Headed To Syria Crashes
mircea_popescu: now, there's entirely nothing "promisetronic" about people providing seals named as their patches are named. if they fail to do this - their patch won't work.
mircea_popescu: so, predictably, they just parasithized it, because of the wanna-be-woman faggotry, some wanna be woman "as historical essence" and some "as current fashion", so you ended up with that wham idiot doing shoulderpads and girly hairdos ; and sir what's his face, the fat ugly one doing "historical hats like queen liz"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the fucking point is - whatever some old fart with a good old fart story the other old farts eat up THOUGHT, the street tough didn't think he made a good "fiedl operative". in positive fact he made a good victim and no more. << /me read it as old fart who was was befroe becoming old fart thought child robber would make good field operative. But the crime as I read is he doesn't figure that the child already is a field oe
mircea_popescu: Framedragger most of the usg corps steal foss and posture as a business strategy.