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asciilifeform: in so far as can tell with naked eye, and with the sensors, it was built 'by the book'.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a thing of the 70s, mostly gone now. the modern northern "window" is so insulating as you couldn't believe.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 21:53 asciilifeform: ~0 of which gets through typical lamp dome, just as nobody gets sunburn from sitting near a window indoors.
asciilifeform: though oddly enough, the hovels where i lived as a student were old enough to have proper ceilings !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dangling < must be introduced as &lt;
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 19:51 ben_vulpes: d'you want me to get you one as well?
asciilifeform: (leaving entirely aside the validity of a burrowing animal as a model for blindness via overexposure to ~whatever~ wavelength of light)
asciilifeform: ~0 of which gets through typical lamp dome, just as nobody gets sunburn from sitting near a window indoors. ☟︎
phf: but i've no idea what to switch to, as per recent threads
ben_vulpes: d'you want me to get you one as well? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596792 << spiffy as hell phf i very much wanted this the other night ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596974 << not new at all, posed as victim ☝︎
asciilifeform: i've caught self wondering if 'ivf' process as described in textbook, ever worked at all...
adlai: 'standard' obviously doesn't cover many cases, which is why it exists as a standard which can be referenced against.
asciilifeform: even if idiotically, because designer was dropped as a baby
mircea_popescu: once that appears, the usg as you know it goes away.
mircea_popescu: without that - no stalinism. it's not as if stalin is given, and if leningrad DID oppose resistence then stalin'd have landed the ufos. stalin had no ufos. in fact, had barely rifle.
asciilifeform: i actually have insufficient data, after rejecting the available report as disinfo.
asciilifeform: '“Somebody may want to ask the question as to why a pre-dawn, forced entry was necessary in this case,” Millar said , adding the public needs a full account of what happened Friday. (We) specifically want to know why a pre-dawn raid was required in a house with two young children.”'
asciilifeform: tecoistic, aha, as pictured in example earlier.
asciilifeform: (incidentally you can cheat, mircea_popescu-style, by dividing the diffables into segments using 2+ newlines as divmarkers, and nw-ing the resulting segments, then outputting the diffs.)
adlai: seeing as it's a tool, not a "manned missile" (spot the sauce!), scalpl's on vacation during the semester
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not even asleep. just, by now, barely reading adlai, the stubborn anal childhood is not nearly as interesting as the subject imagines.
adlai: sure, you can write the whole thing in forth (or lambda calc, or categories, or...), but as the agent said to the provocateur - 'good luck'
adlai: students can build multiple impls as hw, but anybody using a forkable client is taking a risk
adlai: but it's correct as a version number, because consensus systems fail correctly together, and "history is written by the victors"
mircea_popescu: and how am i going to apply patches ? there's no such thing as signature-equivalence.
asciilifeform: and sure as fuck you can tell
ben_vulpes: there is some value in it but as mentioned before i have a c++ itch what needs scratching
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi how php xors or if it even understands anything. implemented as ifs.
mircea_popescu: calling it "state machine" is kind-of improper as i suppose the result also holds state. a cleaner separation may be advisable, but w/e.
mircea_popescu: it starts as that
pete_dushenski: the worst part of medium is that the images don't archive. this wouldn't be an issue for most republican blogs seeing as they're entirely text, but it's actually quite the bug for fiat writers, taleb included
mircea_popescu: anyway, the general idea above being : you take all the sane parts of working hash functions, and ditch the insanities. so - no magic numbers, inside boxes, as boxes count, etc. use modulo-arithmetic and iterators, and one long cipher box.
mircea_popescu: it has the advantage that it needs an unspecified pile of memory (on average, half the message + half the message) for the state machine, and an unspecified number of operations (on average, 2x as many as message length).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw it occurs to me that your proposed padding scheme, while not useful as a rsa padding scheme, nevertheless may be rescued into a very serviceable hash function, which has the notable property that a) acordion and b) user settable output size. something like this : let R be a ring buffer of as many bits as the user specified the output should be, let M be the message. let there be a one bit state machine S = 0
asciilifeform: flea as in fleadom!111
asciilifeform: 'oh it's the same text except that i ran this-here perl turd on it and trust me that it works as i said on your perltron' is not vtronic.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 10:33 davout: i don't really see asciilifeform's issue with large 'formatting' patches, as long as it can be mechanically established that the changes a patch brings do not change any of the code semantics there should be no problem with arbitrarily large patches
davout: as a first step it can even be implemented without an UTXO index by address
davout: for the cost of a 20gb index the wallet code can be completely removed, and implemented as a couple light scripts on top of TRB
davout: yep, same goes for actual walleting as far as I'm concerned :D
mircea_popescu: davout i meant as far as actual mining is concerned (in practice). by the time of the gpu era, most people ditched satoshi code for mining.
davout: i don't really see asciilifeform's issue with large 'formatting' patches, as long as it can be mechanically established that the changes a patch brings do not change any of the code semantics there should be no problem with arbitrarily large patches ☟︎
davout: ah i didn't notice the two lines merged as one being seen as a move
BingoBoingo: davout: Nah, just suicidal. So long as some root survives tree has a chance of continuing to tree. Plane has no such faculty for continuing to plane.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596028 <<< not in trb as far as i can tell, i can tell the thing to 'generate' etc. ☝︎
asciilifeform: that s. peddled as a 'replacement' for 'applied crypto'
mircea_popescu: you want it to go through a www page, find all signature blocks, and identify it as a fingerprint then ?
trinque: https://www.rt.com/usa/372609-public-decency-boston-law/ << ahahaha, hey mats, let it be known that you can jack it on the subway up there so long as nobody's "shocked" or "alarmed"
mod6: is that the same as the JET-A1 or whatever I sometimes see on the side of tanks?
mircea_popescu: so then use that. as the spec says, m.t specifically left unspecified.
mircea_popescu: (the correct solving scheme is still as i said back when we were discussing mempools, to keep track of peers (yes, by ips) and score them by the fees they bring your mempool. with this change -- that is even implementable.)
asciilifeform: (banning would, as far as i can tell, require 2way comms b/w the modules)
asciilifeform: (every tx in memory relies on its inputs being present , and at all times becomes a threat to crash the process if one should turn out not to be there. ~all pointers potentially dangle . thing is as rotten as could be imagined.)
asciilifeform: essentially, anything where you cannot, in any practical computer, express the hash's reversal as an n-sat problem
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it would be utterly nutso to consider an ode/fluids sim as a hashing function, right?
ben_vulpes: horses and women as opportunity presented
trinque: right, not as if you can roll the aircraft when you're about to touch ground (intentionally!)
asciilifeform: let's take the cuts as specified by mircea_popescu earlier.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i misspeak, 'as an integer'
asciilifeform: i.e. as an object you can divide by 33 ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what means 'as a bignum' ?
ben_vulpes: (fwiw i'm down to the last ghostly suggestion, which was to read in the hash as a bignum)
asciilifeform: davout: thing is, there is no such thing as this 'hot core'
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595836 <<< my image is more like: "trb is this thing from which more and more is removed, until only the radioactive code consisting in ball of tightly packed hot wires which we proceed to put in a little box in which epoxy is poured, and is only interacted with as some black box" ☝︎
asciilifeform: as, e.g., trb itself.
asciilifeform: the entire point in using a differ in vtron at all (as opposed to signing ENTIRE body of work) is to make the work of the reader tractable.
mircea_popescu: v is really only as powerful as the underlying differ is. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, one huge insert patch is still pretty dubious as far as paternity goes.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595456 << "First, and obviously, since the majority of the students are going to get an A, he just has to do just as well/horrifically as the average student, and if they're all writing about slavery with the enthusiasm of a photocopier then if he wants an A he better buckle down and learn the truly useful skill of masking the words of a Wikipedia page. " ☝︎
mircea_popescu: all three queues to be implemented as ring buffers of user specified size. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: which mempool ? each b has one, as a queue.
asciilifeform: 1 process, in which all threads share (quite catastrophically, as readers of trb ml will know) the heap.
asciilifeform: (as it presently does)
asciilifeform: i parsed it as the sense-making 'build to one binary'
asciilifeform: i dun recall anyone ever suggesting that trb be distributed as exe...
ben_vulpes: davout: dunno, "just biked into office after spending as much time with family as i wanted o'clock"?
asciilifeform: (what does the thing that actually speaks with peers look like, in your view ? peers will ask for, and send, blocks AND tx, on same socket, as per current protocol.)
ben_vulpes: davout: i imagined this as a component of bear stone and skin knife transacting
davout: downside of it is "node has to know which addresses to monitor, still has to keep clunk 'rescan' logic as well"
davout: ben_vulpes: i'm listing it as an option
asciilifeform: makes for quite as effective a ritual object as titanium
mircea_popescu: plastic is as good as anything else!
mircea_popescu: and thereby working more as antenna
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform recently bought a 'top of the line' civilian motherboard, and as soon as being lifted from the crate, it shed a few 0805 capacitors
asciilifeform: re 'open sores', even a ~very~ small gadget, and in fact one that started life as a stand-alone library: mpi (bignum) piece of gpg 1.4, was quite astonishingly painful to properly saw off the kochball
asciilifeform: as it is, no one who understands the actual purpose of tor could possibly suffer illusions re firefox, or vice-versa
asciilifeform: e well before then. It might as well be the Americans: they started this shambolic desert kingdom; they might as well be the ones to put it out of its misery.'
mircea_popescu: fucking idiots, "oh, in this very narrow sliver of experience that is our irrelevant if self-important life, x observation held so far, especially because he have no fucking clue as to statistics, logic, or anything else. THEREFORE IT IS A NATURAL LAW OF THE UNYVERSE!!!"
Framedragger: some airlines (such as ryanair) try to stuff the user with tons of shitty offers before reservation confirmation page. horribru UX. such m0netizzation $trategy. imbeciles indeed :/
Framedragger: i suppose you also avoid the 'why does a multibillion clock machine lag on key press omfg' fail as icing on the cake.
BingoBoingo: And in African it derives from the man Petrus telling the boy David that building is skilled work as David plays gopher for Petrus's tools
asciilifeform: teach c machine as sane people were taught: 'here's some c, here's what compiler emitted , in asm, now say why'
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu with his cement mixer is just as 'dirty empiricist' as d00d who writes 'while (1) {.......}' without having written a c compiler and ability to explain what {} 'do' rigorously
a111: Logged on 2017-01-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: if the same archbishop inquires as to why i poured cement the way i did i can answer without ado.
asciilifeform: (which is separate headache, such as to be left in a desert to die is quite different experience than to be lowered into pit of weevils)
mircea_popescu: and since i'm on a moldy tome kick, let's note down ܝܳܠܕܰܬ ܐܰܠܳܗܳܐ ie joldath allaho. in syriac. because yes, even as egypt was mostly christian in its recent history (just as all of the "arabic" middle east), allah exists in arabic as a corruption of a syriac notation of a greek interpretation of a hebrew name for god.
mircea_popescu: why should it get to. nobody at the wheel, car goes where it pleases, horse shall graze as it might ?
diana_coman: well, it started as a set of holes in punch-cards - not sure what life support is that likely to get to