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jurov: anything NOT "marked as a mortally dangerous thing"
jurov: asciilifeform: will there ever be a "works as described, use in production" item in this vein?
asciilifeform: it was quite clearly marked as a mortally dangerous thing, for laboratory use only.
trinque: but as I see it, the statement was made adequately
asciilifeform: trinque: consider the trb-genesis as a successful use case of the thing i am asking for.
trinque: as whether anyone wants to sign
trinque: asciilifeform: seems the problem there has as much to do with the fact that a gentleman would have to dedicate a very large part of his life to making further, sweeping improvements to the trb codebase
trinque: example as it pertains to the history.txt ?
trinque: and then when I shit, nobody seals my patch, and eventually I'm known as a floor shitter, and nobody regards my seal
trinque: room for as much rationale and backstory there as is required
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-26#1607048 << i did not forget it, trinque , but it is a very bitter pill, as i suspect folx will discover for themselves when they actually take said pill ☝︎
asciilifeform: as befits a literate d00d. write a vtron. or pick up an actual unsolved problem from the logz.
adlai: the ready solution being to drink more (of the right fluids), talk less (of the wasted-breath variety), and maybe not as much in mircea's direction.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 07:07 mircea_popescu: To be clear re ^ : dude's been trying to attack the republic for over a year by now through the remarkably idiotic procedure of speaking as if he has some weight. Because who knows, maybe we're all dumb dumb and this contextual approach actually works, we'll end up thinking he's somebody because he's been acting as if he were for so long, everyone forgot he isn't.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-26 02:25 asciilifeform: if there is literally no way to memorialize the fact that i took $item off a dead nazi, or dug up from sunken atlantis, rather than wrote it personally -- said item will have to be done without. (unless someone else in your wot does the imho monumentally idiotic act of 'adopting it as own child')
Framedragger: i suppose this ties into the "view WoT rating as a representation of degree of certainty" approach, aha.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i suppose so, at least the latest concept iteration as developed in the comments
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-25#1606714 << if the thing was implemented as discussed (e.g. http://trilema.com/2015/a-proper-social-site-for-the-bdsm-community/#comment-117298) it would indeed not be centralised. or if it ended up relying on one central node, that node would be more like a passive store of pgp'd blobs. not to say that i believe this is the one true future and salvation, ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Let it be plainly stated that you treat this sort of subhuman scum as if it were a person at your own peril. It won't benefit by your sacrifice ; you will sooner or later end up in the sad position of discovering you no longer have a soul.
mircea_popescu: To be clear re ^ : dude's been trying to attack the republic for over a year by now through the remarkably idiotic procedure of speaking as if he has some weight. Because who knows, maybe we're all dumb dumb and this contextual approach actually works, we'll end up thinking he's somebody because he's been acting as if he were for so long, everyone forgot he isn't. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. but the article makes a very solid point : the current "start-up culture" is EXACTLY this. as discussed in the trilema "sv pedos" piece and ailleurs.
asciilifeform: town there was no problem ever. Someone had arranged all this and it was not the Episcopal Church. Of course the two honchos who ran our chapter were both later exposed as pedophiles and FBI.'
asciilifeform: weapons, and an infinite supply of ammunition for training purposes. If they burned out an M60 by running it too hot there was another M60 ready to go. And a little farm in Wisconsin to use as a training facility. All the farmers in the vicinity could and did hear the M60 and the BAR, so could the local police, somehow in spite of every local looking daggers at the hippies when they passed through
asciilifeform: 'Myself I started to drift out of SDS when martial arts training became obligatory. When weapons training was required that was the end for me. What sent me away was not so much the notion of using a gun for a political end as that the providers of the guns were people who until five minutes previous could not fundraise a nickel bag for a party. Suddenly they had weapons, unlimited weapons, nice
asciilifeform: in the sense that it is of heathen birth, but nevertheless memorialized as an origin and not subsumed
mircea_popescu: there is no such benefit as "milk" here.
asciilifeform: ( as per http://deedbot.org/deed-378272-1.txt )
asciilifeform: if there is literally no way to memorialize the fact that i took $item off a dead nazi, or dug up from sunken atlantis, rather than wrote it personally -- said item will have to be done without. (unless someone else in your wot does the imho monumentally idiotic act of 'adopting it as own child') ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, i am saying, flatly, that this isn't a knowledge. as per lieberman.
asciilifeform: eh even modern mexico, the actual-people-people are white (as white as spain, at least)
mircea_popescu: the project is named after its tree's genesis, and conceptually exists as and only as descendancy from that genesis.
asciilifeform: not when it is written correctly (i.e. as i did)
mod6: ok. what should the vtron do with these extra roots? place them at the end of the flow as leafs?
mod6: the main reason that I bring this up; 'foobar.vpatch' is being dumped out of the flow and causing problems since i've implemented the axiom of 'a vpatch can only be in the flow if all of its antecedents are present.' which causes a problem in this case as it gets chucked out as an orphan.
asciilifeform: (the reason for which, was to demonstrate that shiva was tinyscheme largely as-found-in-the-forest)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform an item can exist in two copies : as its independent tree AND ALSO as a patch imported in a project.
mod6: both of these have all inputs as 'false' -- hard for the code to tell which should be witch at face value without something "and it has at least one descendant"
mircea_popescu: but an important point here i must stress is the COGNITIVE LOAD of a v tree. these aren't mechanical "oh, it changed x file so it goes with x". you think, as the author, and exactly in the manner of scoring wot members : what should this item be anchored on ?
mod6: so say we go with that... that 'foobar.vpatch' just inherits an antecedent 'genesis.vpatch'; how does one distinguish between 'foobar.vpatch' as a root and 'genesis.vpatch' as a root without additional criteria?
mod6: so in the case of my previous implementation (V99995), these island-roots would simply endup at the end of the flow, as a leaf. as they are both a root and a leaf at the same time.
mod6: Say that we have a flow, like trb, with all sorts of vpatches that stem from one single root. where that root is designated as a 'root' because all of its inputs are 'false'. what should happen with a vpatch that, for instance, just adds a file to the source and has no antecedents, nor decendants.
ben_vulpes: i ain't selling "pg fts" as any sort of solution; 'tis largely an experiment in pg search and data modeling.
asciilifeform: trinque: common as dirt
asciilifeform: about same diff as the famous banana
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://www.cs.york.ac.uk/fp/DrIFT/original/History.html >> 'You asked whether naming your software `Haskell Derive' would be satisfactory, and you explained your reasoning for wishing to adopt that name. We believe that we understand your reasoning, but the critical point is that including `Derive' as part of your software's name in *any* manner is not permissible. That fact is not
mircea_popescu: specificity of diddling again applies. just as long as your response is not categorically identifiable, the empire is stuck in the one place it hates.
phf: (just as long as the final device looks like this http://museumofmagneticsoundrecording.org/images/R2R/WebsterChicago78a.jpg )
asciilifeform: or heat with chemical heater (as used in american army rations).
asciilifeform: even the humble steel wire recorder, ancestor of magnetophone, could easily come back as a practical thing.
asciilifeform: as for 'how to even know whether it works', that one's easy. qc is strictly a wunderwaffen for breaking rsa. if it breaks rsa -- it worx. otherwise, not.
asciilifeform: it is as related as 12th century retort was related to turning lead to gold.
asciilifeform: (naturally it would be approx. as useless as alchemy would have been, had it worked to spec, and much more quickly so)
asciilifeform: it's an off the shelf thing, go an' buy as many as you like.
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/yXziR << excelent diagnosis piece as to how the chanting hordes of the blue state managed to fuck up things wrt munitions. it's a fine complement to http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/#selection-113.485-113.615
mircea_popescu: AI to power unauthorized access against foreign state and non-state actors, then both code and design could be interpreted as defense items. Then it could fall under Title 50 of US Code, appear on the United States Munitions List, Category XVII (Classified Articles, Technical Data, and Defense Services Not Otherwise Enumerated) and therefore be subject the Arms Export Control Act. Once under DoD control those examples of QC c
mircea_popescu: as a bonus, ofcourse, hitachi pretty much owns neodymium magnets, and china pretty much owns everything to do with all the other rare earths also.
mircea_popescu: silicone is used in electronics because of specific properties of its crystal lattice (it acts as a good substrate for dopants, resulting in nonlinear circuit elements). there's exactly nothing that recommends it over something like aerogel, or someone's stained tie, for the purpose of "quantum computing"
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does this pass someone's filter ? so the dorks trying to push a scam decided the one thing that'd best improve the flavour of credibility would be spurious relation to existing practice, so now it's SILICON quantum computers, and you buy this, and even underline it of your own volition, as if it were a thing just because you wish it to be ?
mircea_popescu: now we understand how the pacific islanders invented what later came to be known as us sizes.
mircea_popescu: so brutish and nasty, that Warriors too must be. That is simply not accurate." << apparently you can get random dork to support the termiting, also, for as long as you call him a "chinese linguist" or w/e the fuck.
mircea_popescu: her, so she joined up with the Americans instead. Charlie 82d had dads in their mid-thirties, and it had dads not yet old enough to buy beer. My platoon had a single mom who had been working as an exotic dancer before she raised her right hand and took the oath; another had married young, got divorced and wanted to get as far away from her Ex as possible; she figured the Middle East was probably far enough, but if he tried t
mircea_popescu: notice that the feathering thing is actually curative, as proven by the fact that absent the men, rooster did it to himself.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:58 trinque: gonna DNS at all, might as well do it at the most-fed ministry
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606292 << this is actually pretty solid reasoning. ie, if you're going to live in soviet union, might as well live in moscow. ☝︎
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-24#1606296 << SICL's status makes a lot more sense in-context: "It is intentionally divided into many implementation-independent modules that are written in a totally or near-totally portable way, so as to allow other implementations to incorporate these modules from SICL, rather than having to maintain their own, perhaps implementation-specific versions" ☝︎
trinque: gonna DNS at all, might as well do it at the most-fed ministry ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: by my read it's a small side thing they provide to get as much ops cognition to happen through their tooling as possible
mats: its mind numbing, i did actually play chess on paper as a mental exercise for some weeks
danielpbarron: got a lot more unrates but maybe i'll keep those out of the chan as it's mostly just cleaning out names that i haven't seen in years
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i'm a bit surprised a segwit stoolie ranks as positive in your book
asciilifeform: and given as the good being sold is fundamentally chumpatronic, not mega-surprise.
thestringpuller: namecheap has fallen to the bottom of the barrel. i only stay with them because the cost of migrating the domain is about the same as 3 years of having the domain...
mircea_popescu: namecheap.com, the world's biggest functiona ux ajax website, agreed to pay $randomnumber and admitted to being unable to safely store data even as idiots fucked around on the lone dnssec-mysql server.
asciilifeform: 'Western Union Co, the world's biggest money-transfer company, agreed to pay $586 million and admitted to turning a blind eye as criminals used its service for money laundering and fraud, U.S. authorities said on Thursday. Western Union, which has over half a million locations in more than 200 countries, admitted "to aiding and abetting wire fraud" by allowing scammers to process transactions, even when the company realized its agent
asciilifeform: which nonsense. (traditionally) the handlers don't even let near the wheel, anybody who showed symptoms of having so much as latent ability to tell usg to pack it
asciilifeform: trident is mandatory per britain's post-1945 role as 'airstrip one'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: protecting own neck from the noose, as per http://qntra.net/2017/01/the-fourth-reich-grips-berlin
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-up-amazing-16-64-as-usual-another-all-time-high/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Mining Difficulty Up Amazing 16.64% (As Usual Another All Time High)
mircea_popescu: so talk to the spammers, buy a server farm setup with a few dozen ips and use it for your purpose purpose. as you won't get blacklisted nobody will give a shit. bout $50/ip/month is where the market is now, can readily bill your employer triple and if he won't pay ditch him on the spot.
Framedragger: "Quora walked in to an investor meeting, stated these facts as plainly as I have, and walked out with a check for eighty million dollars. That's the power of investor storytime. "
pete_dushenski: that strategy only lasts for as long as you have wrc status or hard money escape hatch. otherwise you end up 'investing' in persian rugs and rusting peugeots because they hold their value better than the alternatives.
mircea_popescu: The page on climate change was replaced with a page entitled “An America First Energy Plan” that ignores climate change entirely and says, “President Trump is committed to eliminating harmful and unnecessary policies such as the Climate Action Plan and the Waters of the U.S. rule.”
asciilifeform: about as remarkable as apple's 'loud refusal' in the iphone case.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: couldn't seem to find current zoolag ip in logs. only managed to find `72.82.9.184` as the last known IP
scriba: Logged on 2017-01-20: [19:22:03] <Framedragger> yeah :D yah my plan was to use postgres full text search (even though it may be overkill as phf once said), but it's just not high priority in my list. but i'd like to do it
phf: Framedragger: instead of crawling the logs it's much easier to just ask me for the textual dump that i use for storage (it's the same format as what kako used)
Framedragger: the xref thing as phf calls them. when one log line references another, and btcbase adds hyperlinks to jump between the references
Framedragger: yeah :D yah my plan was to use postgres full text search (even though it may be overkill as phf once said), but it's just not high priority in my list. but i'd like to do it
mircea_popescu: that's how it works nao and i really dun see it needs fixing ; but if you want to implement a challenge-response thing you can still do that, for your own rounding as it were
Framedragger: (i won't restart bot to manually enable btcbase quoatation right now as i may go afk soon, and when a111 comes back it'll be hell.)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: guess so. in which case that switch should be operatable by someone else as well (as i can do this myself easily already, but yes presently requires restart, and yes read-eval loop would be nice etc)
mircea_popescu: !$readlinks as a toggle is good enough
mircea_popescu: Framedragger implement a commandable switch ? that way you can turn it on/off as needed
trinque: but as a general principle when the underlying thing is broken, it is a sin to let something above collect hair to "fix" it
mircea_popescu: "that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will"
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/euCva << 'The DC Human Rights Act makes it illegal to discriminate against more groups than are protected under federal law. Protected classes in Washington include not only race, religion and sex, but political affiliation as well. “Right off the bat people are asking if we deny the so-called 'alt-right,' and they are held out to be Trump supporters, are we denying based on political affiliation?” Rome said. H
davout: as defined by urban dictionary
asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu if a prime q is found and m/q == p, and p is prime, p is listed as factor.
mircea_popescu: it's as if the software never actually fails ; but it's always deliberately subverted
shinohai: The Michelle Obama sneer was hilarious as well