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mircea_popescu: - I never met any of the higher Eldars, but I did once meet an Eldar in Training. I don’t know his real name but people called him Legolas. He had long blond hair, was dressed like a 19th century count, and wore a pendant that had both a Christian Cross and Thor’s Hammer on it.
assbot: A Reader Writes of his Experience Among the Dark Enlightenment Types
asciilifeform: from the loltraps: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2014/02/a-reader-writes-of-his-experience-among-the-dark-enlightenment-types.html
mircea_popescu: hat we now have in academia is a situation where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. In short they are living a lie. ☟︎
punkman: yeah it's not that hard to come up with a simple bot and enter the tournament
mircea_popescu: punkman actually, this could have a direct application. let people back the bots, buy shares.
punkman: from Hofstadter: "Two people meet and exchange closed bags, with the understanding that one of them contains money, and the other contains a purchase. Either player can choose to honor the deal by putting into his or her bag what he or she agreed, or he or she can defect by handing over an empty bag."
mircea_popescu: If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content.
mircea_popescu: moves can be used as a ticker
punkman: "TODO: Is that 'no other state' thing valid? What if a bot wants to do some behavior only once, but when exactly it does so is randomly determined? I believe this could require some saved information besides the history of moves, but this seems like a valid strategy."
punkman: " should use only static initialization variables, randomness, and past moves in order to make a decision. No other state should be updated/saved/taken into account."
mircea_popescu: dents to learn this and many attended, including students who had attended a course incorporating logic programming the previous term. It was a battle to get the students to do this, not least because two senior lecturers criticised the exercise as presenting too much of a challenge to the students.
mircea_popescu: After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it. A special class was laid on for stu ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you run a bunch of worlds instead of just one
mircea_popescu: not necessarily a bad thing, unless im having a brain fart
mircea_popescu: a is it ?
punkman: no it's a list of all previous moves
mircea_popescu: yes but from what i've seen, as a sum
asciilifeform: what's a tourney without... a prize.
mircea_popescu: a bot that takes a betrayal against itself as badly as a betrayal against the world has average ego.
mircea_popescu: b) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent player against each bot of their type
mircea_popescu: specifically : a) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent played against each other bot. this is fixed for the respective bot.
punkman: if anyone wants to describe a bot, I'll code it
punkman: mircea_popescu: about that simulation, there are 20 bots, they meet everyone else 5 times and play for N rounds each time they meet, after each round there's a 0.995 probability they will stop.
punkman: so we must be doing like 100 a day now?
punkman: BingoBoingo: we need like 220 blocks a day for that bet
punkman: heh "JOSS defaults to cooperation on the first turn, and thereafter mirrors its partner's previous move, except after its partner cooperates, JOSS defects with some probability to see what it can get away with every once in a while."
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 5 reasons why losing 10 years' investment in iraq isn't a disaster, 5 reason why higher inflation isn't higher inflation, 5 reasons why the failure of each and every obamapolicy isn't a failure of the left, or of blacks, or of the electoral system, or of the general public,
mircea_popescu: punkman that is a point
punkman: I was looking at a few interesting papers from this guy the other day http://dpennock.com/
punkman: mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill << not a big fan of academics, but I can blag it now
asciilifeform: punkman: a good refresher text on discrete maths / computability /etc. is hopcroft & ullman
asciilifeform: the 'content methods & meaning' by dover is a pretty fine encyclopaedic text
assbot: Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning (Dover Books on Mathematics): A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, M. A. Lavrentev, Mathematics: 9780486409160: Amazon.com: Books
punkman: so once upon the time I was a math student, but then I forgot everything, and now I'm looking for a couple of good books. I found this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486409163/ . Any other suggestions?
mircea_popescu: nubsy is a contrarian. he doesn't have altcoins, he doesn't have blogs, he goes his own way damneit@!
punkman: did nubbins have a blog, or am I remembering some other sausage-blog
punkman: I think I should make a special feed for penguin though
Namworld: Apple stock at 100? Was there a split or did it drop a lot? I think it was around 500-800 not long ago.
mircea_popescu: ah. well we're trying to make a canonical version of 2012 - april 2013
Mats_cd03: i wonder how long it will take for a decent price signal to materialize
ThickAsThieves: like #b-a
ThickAsThieves: i'm more referring to the the dynamics of a closed society in an effort to bring quality/robustness or whatever
ThickAsThieves: probably on a curve
ThickAsThieves: i also wonder if age is a factor as well
ThickAsThieves: understood, i'm more pointing out that size is a factor, as in, it being closed isn't enough, it also can't be large
mircea_popescu: "democracy" as practiced among a hundred that know each other is no democracy anyway
FabianB: mircea_popescu: my logs are burried in old backups on disks at a place i'm unlikely to be at in the next 2 to 3 weeks, so unless it's still useful by then i'll keep them there
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing. //// or a *small* society --- but maybe i'm splitting hairs
moiety: chetty: i'm a disgrace i know XD i find it so hard when they are such idiots
decimation: lol Carlyle has the same "non-persons" theory: "If the unfathomable Universe has decided to reject Human Beavers pretending to be Men; and will abolish, pretty rapidly perhaps, in hideous mud-deluges, their 'markets' and them, unless they think of it??In that case it were better to think of it: and the Democracies and Universal Suffrages, I can observe, will require to modify themselves a good deal!"
mircea_popescu: well yes, but this was before a time people expected the king pick up their apothecary bill.
mircea_popescu: but that's exactly the concept. my slavegirl might not want to visit you in a room you can lock at your option.
decimation: mircea_popescu: Indeed, which is why this "alert" is so amusing. "Seizing or freezing bitcoins. Law enforcement officials may have difficulty seizing or freezing illicit proceeds held in bitcoins. Bitcoin wallets are encrypted and unlike money held in a bank or brokerage account, bitcoins may not be held by a third-party custodian."
decimation: honestly that "alert" is a pretty good pitch for Bitcoin
decimation: "Not insured. While securities accounts at U.S. brokerage firms are often insured by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) and bank accounts at U.S. banks are often insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), bitcoins held in a digital wallet or Bitcoin exchange currently do not have similar protections."
asciilifeform: is ipmi one of those 'may as well hang for a sheep' affairs, where folks use intel cpu, etc and know they're already owned anyway
decimation: interestingly, old dell RAC cards had a feature where you could actually "view" the monitor over ssh
asciilifeform: i never understood the popularity of the crud. an ip-kvm is what, a few hundy? why attach proprietary strange to your front bus?
decimation: I'm glad I didn't in retrospect - was gonna buy a supermicro - before, I could pretend it was secure, now we know otherwise
decimation: but yeah, not on a workstation
decimation: I considered buying a server with that feature so I could remotely access it without a monitor
asciilifeform: who the hell has impi on a 'human' box ?
mircea_popescu: to be a modest chap, the logs kinda exist because i had this irresponsible attitude where i'd only log while awake, and so things got lost.
mircea_popescu: in other words, two mice disagreed once on how to split a chunk of cheese they had found. so the cat ate the cheese, and the mice.
decimation: one can simultaneously believe global warming is a scam and also consider the coal plant down the street to be ruinous
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ok once I get Azelphur's, i'll turn them all into a mysql dump and send it to kakobrekla. Then once kako gets them on log.b-a, i'll just crawl-backfill.
benkay: i've always thought it a rather bad idea to be burning everything at hand, just on the principle that i don't want to be breathing crap all the time.
decimation: Thomas Carlyle on the wisdom of crowds: "Your ship cannot double Cape Horn by its excellent plans of voting. The ship may vote this and that, above decks and below, in the most harmonious exquisitely constitutional manner: the ship, to get round Cape Horn, will find a set of conditions already voted for, and fixed with adamantine rigour by the ancient Elemental Powers, who are entirely careless how you vote." http://books.google.com/
mircea_popescu: consequently the producers were forced to iterate a lot and fail fast
mircea_popescu: turns out, it's that they were all produced for a small audience of the same people.
mircea_popescu: kako a ok
kakobrekla: but if theres a coherent version out there i can parse it
mircea_popescu: up to the point where he rebuffs roper you may entertain the notion more is a whole man. but after he admits he will grant the other's safety for his own safety's sake you know he's not.
benkay: that's when he discloses it. it's clear he's had the opinion for a long time.
mircea_popescu: benkay you will note that more only forms a moral judgement once he is no longer subject to his king
mircea_popescu: loyal subjects can not distinguish the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes.
mircea_popescu: in fact, feudalism is a means of working land held in escrow.
mircea_popescu: this is yet again the degenerate form of the sybill attack for a degenerate wot
mircea_popescu: the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass can not be distinguished from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes upon the monarch by loyal subjects
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except what is a cliff ?
asciilifeform: bus driver can demonstrably suck (machine careens of a cliff.) it does not follow that bus should be rebuilt with a steering wheel for each passenger - etc
mircea_popescu: a sovereign can not be demonstrably immoral tho is the problem
benkay: i mean i need more coffee and a caning.
mircea_popescu: what is this revolutionary scandalous licentiousness where a subject may be allowed to pass himself as moral agent equal to his sovereign ?
mircea_popescu: yes well. more is a loyal subject of the king.
benkay: unequivocal: the 98% are almost perfectly good, while the 2% are almost perfectly evil. After all, the 98% are nice to almost everyone, while the 2% are mean to those who are nice to almost everyone, and nice only to a tiny minority who are mean to almost everyone. Of course, for much of human history, this is precisely how morality worked, in many people’s minds. But I dare say it’s a result that would make moderns uncomfortable."
mircea_popescu: you are not humble and therefore can not be given a ton of power.
mthreat: kako may choose to renumber the ids (used for the <a href> anchors) since he'll be backfilling prior to his current "epoch" day
mthreat: once Iset up the cron, yeah something like that :) Maybe twice a day, whatever.
mircea_popescu: past days don't change anyway so you do once a day as it were ?
mthreat: <mircea_popescu> btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << I got asciilifeform's ba-turd file. But I'm not sure what format kako wants. search.b-a gets all of its info from log.b-a by crawling, since I link to it in the search results.
mircea_popescu: ha! now this may be a good formalisation of the vc problem. birdy whispers in my ear : "all those guys trying for financial dominance without intellectual dominance ? ya, that'll work..."
mircea_popescu: goatfuckers had a point all along huh
mircea_popescu: in a sense their intuition is quite correct : the world is in fact ending.
asciilifeform: it's a scam of the desperation/starvation variety. armies of folks conned into burning their lives for 'degree' want to eat.
mircea_popescu: i'm not a professor because i find fucking and beating a few selected girls at a time a lot more effectual than merely speaking to an entire gaggle, who also cling to naive misrepresentations as of their "rights" and "freedoms".
asciilifeform: that many of the titles bear a striking resemblance to each other. "Adaptive Mesh Analysis" reads one and "An Adaptive Algorithm for Mesh Analysis" reads another. Dividing the total remaining by the average number of repetitions halves the list again. Mozart disappears before your very eyes.' ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'You can routinely find lecturers with more than a hundred published papers and you marvel at these paradigms of human creativity. These are people, you think, who are fit to challenge Mozart who wrote a hundred pieces or more of music. And then you get puzzled that, in this modern world, there should be so many Mozarts - almost one for every department. The more prosaic truth emerges when you scan the titles ☟︎
gribble: Why I am Not a Professor - Lambda Associates: <http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog/decline.htm>; my pdf copy: <http://babel.ls.fi.upm.es/~pablo/Jumble/decline.pdf>; Former HCC student charged in 1-year-old's death - Herald-Mail: <http://articles.herald-mail.com/2013-05-28/news/39587015_1_first-degree-murder-second-degree-murder-former-hcc>