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ben_vulpes: probably wanted
to let you know you had some past-due
taxes
mats: figures it's alf in
the running
ben_vulpes: not even
the usb charger in
the cigarette lighter
ben_vulpes: mats: odd in
that - somewhat secured lot, by far
the least enticing vehicle in it (nothing on
the seats in stark contrast
to next car over), window smashed, lock popped, nothing
taken
mats: bb's
thing was some shenanigans unconnected
to
tmsr activities
thought
ben_vulpes: whocoodanode he'd buy
the republican party
mats: aren't
there a lot of addicts where you are, what's odd about a car burglary
mats: that was amusing
to look back on
a111: Logged on 2015-12-20 20:26 jurov:
they're not pathological, just black swans. with a
toupee.
ben_vulpes: or you know wherever bb spends his
time
mats: probably
the first one
to convert
to islam
mats: i wonder who will be
the first person here
to get a
tmsr related LEO visit
☟︎☟︎ shinohai: What a
Trumptastic New Year
this shall be.
phf: ffs, makes it harder and harder
to convince girl
to go back
to istanbul
phf: ah. not
too exciting, but definitely has city life.
though i'm surprised people venture outside with
those insane crosswinds
phf: mats: i don't quite remember, but i
think you're located somewhere exciting?
mats: a day long shit show of people getting wasted and stumbling around causing
trouble
phf: u.s. suburbia and
thereabouts are
typically dead on new year's
mats: in other other news, new year's eve is always amateur hour on
the streets
mats: i guess americans are very azn
too
BingoBoingo: But for srs,
this is a very azn way of handling people
mats: in my view,
the state doesn't have any business in regulating marriage at all
☟︎ mats: it will reportedly involve amusing changes
to public documents, e.g. passports,
textbooks in public schools, where folks are now 'parent one' and 'parent
two' instead of father/mother
mats: parliamentarians appear
to be
trying
to push it
through despite some polling indicating a 1:1 split in public opinion
mats: in much less interesting news,
tw is in a
tizzy over a draft law regarding same-sex marriage
trinque: thanks, I'll have
to be off for now.
trinque: and aside an aversion
to pain or suffering or whatever.
trinque: it is
the empty set
that explodes in circles in my mind, not
that I deny
that it must be named first.
that
the definition of all
things has void as a dependency induces virtigo when looking out at
the world.
mircea_popescu: reality diverges much more slowly
thay representation. but
this inequality offers no challenges
to
the validity of either reality or representation.
they are what
they are,
they do what
they do.
mircea_popescu: when you first expand your sex life
to include a woman, you vividly remember her, and everyhing, minute detail. and once it further expands
to include
two, still. and
three, and slightly dimmer four. by six its growing steadily dimmer, and maybe by
the 7th is
the first
time you start losing
track of
them.
mircea_popescu: fortunately, mathematics is simple. V is
the set of all sets. by convention,
the first index, V0, is
the empty set.
☟︎ trinque: no, and I perceive
that proceeding further will require more
than a casual understanding of mathematics.
trinque is here, furrowing brow, while some neurons work
their way from here
to
the
thread re: void
mircea_popescu: and it just goes on from
there, "the real number 4 is
the root of polynomials in my daily life and so i believe in it ; but
the number 4+i priviledges
the properties of abstract spaces over
things much more important
to us and
therefore...i do not consent
to its existence." hurr.
mircea_popescu: and on
the other hand, "the number four
told me
to headbutt a door!". really, it did ? i suppose, perhaps, if
the number four is followed by a double-sifr and occurs on your blood
test result sheet right where
the locals wrote "glucemia" it may be said "the number four
told me
to stop eating icecream", but it is rather forcing
the point.
mircea_popescu: and in
this perspective, arguments as
to
the existence of gods become
truly amusing. even in a world in which,
through some strange workings of happenstance, no set of four items did in fact exist, nor ever had, and supposedly never will...
there's also no number 4 ?
trinque: I would say
then
that I have something political signified by
the symbol god in my
table, and have no allocated
term for
the other
thing
mircea_popescu: apollo
the symbol strives
to mark down
the discovery of apollo
the god, much like ٤ stives
to mark down
the number 4. you wouldn't know it
to look at
the poor
thing, but it is what
the ~actual~ arabic numeral for a set of four items looks like.
trinque: I can see
the distinction
there.
mircea_popescu: but
to continue, is
the number 4 like
that, one man made, another perceived ? how about fire ? was fire invented, like "the united states of america", like any fine story ?
mircea_popescu: "i gotta borrow
trinque for a minute. i scrubbed
the expiry off my pgp key, which of course makes a new pubkey even if it is
the same modulus as before" not "i gotta borrow
trinque for a minute. i have a refreshed (nonexpir) pubkey as of 5 min ago"
mircea_popescu: now do me a favour and also deliver
the habit of sorting what you say in order of node importance!
trinque: asciilifeform: I will inspect
the key
then pop it in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your plan on
transfer of authority among keys relies on what exactly ? an unnanounced, ad hoc scheme whereby
the weakest link is your continued voice in chan ?
trinque: yet another man perceives him as bedrock reality
there before
the stars
mircea_popescu: "but
they're both written down with letters". so what if
they are. if i shoot an hour of a woman fucking half a dozen men,
thereby i've constructed a woman ?
trinque: I'm saying a man creates "apollo"
the symbol as an act of will
mircea_popescu: they're different concepts,
they do different
things, what sort of code results from randomly switching if and for calls around ?
mircea_popescu: how's
this unlike
there being an equivalence between if and for ?
trinque: I suppose for now
there is an equivalence between god and golum in my perhaps
thick skull
trinque: as all gods of which I'm aware are written (willed) narrative,
there's an interesting membrane
there
phf: can write reams of koan annotations "next
time asciilifeform shouldn't forget his umbrella!"
mircea_popescu: the answer doesn't have
to be correct, moreover can't even be. it helps
the bleating kids if it is meaningful.
to
them.
mircea_popescu: you don't make a very good
teacher, even as you're a fine engineer!
mircea_popescu: the brightest minds among
the sheep in classics class will ask why, when apollo's arrows rained on
them, did not
the victims shoot him back ?
mircea_popescu: man,
thinks and
therefore is, artifact, willed
therefore here, but god is here before any will, and its being outside
the possible scope of any will. which is why
the ancient literary convention of
the hero's journey : gods can't change.
they don't give up smoking.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 06:54 davout:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594446 <<< i'm confused, isn't
the 8-ball a set of factors
that you multiplied into
the running product, and for which 're-running' makes little sense, as being already present in
the global factors product?
trinque: it may just be an internal bias of mine
that
these people couldn't have ever consciously designed anything
mircea_popescu: to be a god
they must have purpose without purpose ; both observably and demonstrably
the Central Committee (which is what
this is) do not.
mircea_popescu: in any case, no,
the clay colossi are all
that - machinery, golums.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i would say it is improper, because
the fundamental quality of a god is
that it's not constructible, much like no woman ever came in
the shape of a lego set, be
the parts delivered
together or scattered in
the landscape. conversely if you prefer, it is not proper because gods contain
the metaphysical equivalent of a
teleological dimension.
trinque: but
then I don't know enough about
that end of
things
to know whether
the ideology actually flowed from a particular fountain
trinque: mircea_popescu: I've wondered whether it is apt
to call
these human aggregates gods, in
that
the
term was a passable label for distributed-world-model running among nodes of a wot
mircea_popescu: what rms
thought, in his amusing naivite,
to be defending hadn't in fact existed for a decade by
the point news of it reached him. fruhlingserwachen,
the steiner offensive.
mircea_popescu: and it is a hope based on something, right or wrong. "is russia more complex
than gcc ?"
mircea_popescu: "it could buy russia" does not mean - it could. it means - if anyone on our side has a prayer -
them.
mircea_popescu: this apple, nsa, whatever, nobody gives a shit, but
this "apple" is
the empire's last hope, half-Alphabet-half-AAPL-half-contractors whatever it is.
☟︎ trinque: perhaps worth reminding whose hardware comprises much of
the modern NSA panopticon
mircea_popescu: much more so
than windows, which is entirely indistinguishable from yahoo, or
time warner, or ibm.