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asciilifeform: iirc this is in the logz somewhere, and uninspiring
asciilifeform: nobody answered, number belonged to some photography co
asciilifeform: why, i asked then, the clownade, why not just the wagen.
asciilifeform: nono, was land line , asked by name, and in a place where there was no official record of my being inside
ben_vulpes: probably wanted to let you know you had some past-due taxes
ben_vulpes: oh that old scam
mats: figures it's alf in the running
ben_vulpes: not even the usb charger in the cigarette lighter
ben_vulpes: mats: odd in that - somewhat secured lot, by far the least enticing vehicle in it (nothing on the seats in stark contrast to next car over), window smashed, lock popped, nothing taken
mats: bb's thing was some shenanigans unconnected to tmsr activities thought
ben_vulpes: whocoodanode he'd buy the republican party
mats: aren't there a lot of addicts where you are, what's odd about a car burglary
mats: that was amusing to look back on
a111: Logged on 2015-12-20 20:26 jurov: they're not pathological, just black swans. with a toupee.
ben_vulpes: or you know wherever bb spends his time
mats: probably the first one to convert to islam
mats: i wonder who will be the first person here to get a tmsr related LEO visit ☟︎☟︎
shinohai: What a Trumptastic New Year this shall be.
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/AZtxK << Truefax
BingoBoingo: !~Congrats trinque on fast deeding
phf: ffs, makes it harder and harder to convince girl to go back to istanbul
phf: ah. not too exciting, but definitely has city life. though i'm surprised people venture outside with those insane crosswinds
phf: mats: i don't quite remember, but i think you're located somewhere exciting?
mats: a day long shit show of people getting wasted and stumbling around causing trouble
phf: u.s. suburbia and thereabouts are typically dead on new year's
mats: in other other news, new year's eve is always amateur hour on the streets
mats: i guess americans are very azn too
BingoBoingo: But for srs, this is a very azn way of handling people
mats: in my view, the state doesn't have any business in regulating marriage at all ☟︎
mats: it will reportedly involve amusing changes to public documents, e.g. passports, textbooks in public schools, where folks are now 'parent one' and 'parent two' instead of father/mother
mats: parliamentarians appear to be trying to push it through despite some polling indicating a 1:1 split in public opinion
mats: in much less interesting news, tw is in a tizzy over a draft law regarding same-sex marriage
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/disgrace-he-glances-across-at-lucy/ << Trilema - Disgrace - He glances across at Lucy
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/12/shinohais-2016-end-of-the-year-shitcoin-roundup-xtend-tmr/ << Qntra - Shinohai's 2016 End Of The Year Shitcoin Roundup Xtend (TM)(R)
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/disgrace-petrus-has-invited-us/ << Trilema - Disgrace - Petrus has invited us
trinque: thanks, I'll have to be off for now.
trinque: and aside an aversion to pain or suffering or whatever.
trinque: it is precisely that.
mircea_popescu: everyone's afraid of dying, to some degree.
trinque: it is the empty set that explodes in circles in my mind, not that I deny that it must be named first. that the definition of all things has void as a dependency induces virtigo when looking out at the world.
mircea_popescu: reality diverges much more slowly thay representation. but this inequality offers no challenges to the validity of either reality or representation. they are what they are, they do what they do.
mircea_popescu: when you first expand your sex life to include a woman, you vividly remember her, and everyhing, minute detail. and once it further expands to include two, still. and three, and slightly dimmer four. by six its growing steadily dimmer, and maybe by the 7th is the first time you start losing track of them.
mircea_popescu: V1 is the set of the set containing the empty set.
mircea_popescu: fortunately, mathematics is simple. V is the set of all sets. by convention, the first index, V0, is the empty set. ☟︎
trinque: no, and I perceive that proceeding further will require more than a casual understanding of mathematics.
mircea_popescu: are you familiar with the von neumann set ? ☟︎
trinque is here, furrowing brow, while some neurons work their way from here to the thread re: void
mircea_popescu: and it just goes on from there, "the real number 4 is the root of polynomials in my daily life and so i believe in it ; but the number 4+i priviledges the properties of abstract spaces over things much more important to us and therefore...i do not consent to its existence." hurr.
mircea_popescu: and on the other hand, "the number four told me to headbutt a door!". really, it did ? i suppose, perhaps, if the number four is followed by a double-sifr and occurs on your blood test result sheet right where the locals wrote "glucemia" it may be said "the number four told me to stop eating icecream", but it is rather forcing the point.
mircea_popescu: and in this perspective, arguments as to the existence of gods become truly amusing. even in a world in which, through some strange workings of happenstance, no set of four items did in fact exist, nor ever had, and supposedly never will... there's also no number 4 ?
trinque: I would say then that I have something political signified by the symbol god in my table, and have no allocated term for the other thing
mircea_popescu: apollo the symbol strives to mark down the discovery of apollo the god, much like ٤ stives to mark down the number 4. you wouldn't know it to look at the poor thing, but it is what the ~actual~ arabic numeral for a set of four items looks like.
trinque: I can see the distinction there.
mircea_popescu: but to continue, is the number 4 like that, one man made, another perceived ? how about fire ? was fire invented, like "the united states of america", like any fine story ?
asciilifeform looks forward to the demolition of koch-pgp.
mircea_popescu: "i gotta borrow trinque for a minute. i scrubbed the expiry off my pgp key, which of course makes a new pubkey even if it is the same modulus as before" not "i gotta borrow trinque for a minute. i have a refreshed (nonexpir) pubkey as of 5 min ago"
mircea_popescu: now do me a favour and also deliver the habit of sorting what you say in order of node importance!
trinque: asciilifeform: I will inspect the key then pop it in
asciilifeform developed through deliberate effort the habit of 'read whole thing before spewing chunks'
mircea_popescu: i read 2 lines out of 3 before throwing a fit.
asciilifeform: just scrubbed the expiry, because i am tired of doing this every new year.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your plan on transfer of authority among keys relies on what exactly ? an unnanounced, ad hoc scheme whereby the weakest link is your continued voice in chan ?
trinque: yet another man perceives him as bedrock reality there before the stars
mircea_popescu: "but they're both written down with letters". so what if they are. if i shoot an hour of a woman fucking half a dozen men, thereby i've constructed a woman ?
trinque: I'm saying a man creates "apollo" the symbol as an act of will
asciilifeform: where to put it
asciilifeform: i gotta borrow trinque for a minute. i have a refreshed (nonexpir) pubkey as of 5 min ago
mircea_popescu: they're different concepts, they do different things, what sort of code results from randomly switching if and for calls around ?
mircea_popescu: how's this unlike there being an equivalence between if and for ?
trinque: I suppose for now there is an equivalence between god and golum in my perhaps thick skull
trinque: as all gods of which I'm aware are written (willed) narrative, there's an interesting membrane there
asciilifeform: there are now 2 identical (though not, at this moment, synchronized) phuctrons
asciilifeform: i read the whole thing , to date, while waiting for massive megaturd of phuctor to pump over to this half of the planet so i could rebuild working model of entire thing here in my torture room
phf: can write reams of koan annotations "next time asciilifeform shouldn't forget his umbrella!"
asciilifeform still boggled over the dog-woman in mircea_popescu's tale
asciilifeform: howthefuck would i know what is meaningful to sheep(le)
mircea_popescu: the answer doesn't have to be correct, moreover can't even be. it helps the bleating kids if it is meaningful. to them.
asciilifeform not about to change professions any time soon
mircea_popescu: you don't make a very good teacher, even as you're a fine engineer!
asciilifeform: i'dve told'em 'next time it rains and soaks your undershirt, you should rain and soak ~its~ undershirt right back'
mircea_popescu: the brightest minds among the sheep in classics class will ask why, when apollo's arrows rained on them, did not the victims shoot him back ?
mircea_popescu: man, thinks and therefore is, artifact, willed therefore here, but god is here before any will, and its being outside the possible scope of any will. which is why the ancient literary convention of the hero's journey : gods can't change. they don't give up smoking.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 06:54 davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594446 <<< i'm confused, isn't the 8-ball a set of factors that you multiplied into the running product, and for which 're-running' makes little sense, as being already present in the global factors product?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594814 << bernstein's algo does not use a running global product. see his 'finding the smooth parts of integers'. ☝︎
trinque: it may just be an internal bias of mine that these people couldn't have ever consciously designed anything
mircea_popescu: to be a god they must have purpose without purpose ; both observably and demonstrably the Central Committee (which is what this is) do not.
mircea_popescu: in any case, no, the clay colossi are all that - machinery, golums. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i would say it is improper, because the fundamental quality of a god is that it's not constructible, much like no woman ever came in the shape of a lego set, be the parts delivered together or scattered in the landscape. conversely if you prefer, it is not proper because gods contain the metaphysical equivalent of a teleological dimension.
trinque: but then I don't know enough about that end of things to know whether the ideology actually flowed from a particular fountain
trinque: mircea_popescu: I've wondered whether it is apt to call these human aggregates gods, in that the term was a passable label for distributed-world-model running among nodes of a wot
asciilifeform: (dupes ~mods~ in table. which should not be a thing.)
asciilifeform: next step is to find out how they got in.
asciilifeform: update re phuctor: i did finally turn up the dupes.
mircea_popescu: what rms thought, in his amusing naivite, to be defending hadn't in fact existed for a decade by the point news of it reached him. fruhlingserwachen, the steiner offensive.
mircea_popescu: and it is a hope based on something, right or wrong. "is russia more complex than gcc ?"
mircea_popescu: "it could buy russia" does not mean - it could. it means - if anyone on our side has a prayer - them.
mircea_popescu: this apple, nsa, whatever, nobody gives a shit, but this "apple" is the empire's last hope, half-Alphabet-half-AAPL-half-contractors whatever it is. ☟︎
trinque: perhaps worth reminding whose hardware comprises much of the modern NSA panopticon
mircea_popescu: much more so than windows, which is entirely indistinguishable from yahoo, or time warner, or ibm.
asciilifeform: (modern crapple is, under the cover, still largely nextstep)