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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm moar of a coroner than oncologist.
asciilifeform: ( and from-whom. in e.g. 2009 i did not have any friends with coin, and loathed to use 'exchanges' )
mircea_popescu: hey, "why didn't you see the goat" is in the end a boundless question, "i just fucking didn't. i don';t know why, obviously it's there, but i did not see it"
asciilifeform: to this day i take erry possible chance to buy some up, when i got with what.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno about this. even 3y ago i saw 10coin as a fortune.
mircea_popescu: but this aside -- i suspect you also don't work... how shall i put this... everyone's eval-er that keeps them from making coffin liners works on some heuristics. and i suspect your heuristics are out of whack with the insanity that is bitcoin. ie, the important and the unimportant don't get all that clearly separated.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: point being, i actually take the 'causes, not purposes' thing seriously. even have a poster ver. of it, for pet.
asciilifeform: if i worked for medals, would work in derpistan academy of sciences, rather than with mircea_popescu et al
asciilifeform: i dun work for prizes, medals, mircea_popescu knows this. ☟︎
asciilifeform: cuz i want one for own self
asciilifeform: in fact i still dig for 'winner' even tho nobody offers prize !
asciilifeform: i do so swear.
mircea_popescu: because i like you,
mircea_popescu: if you swear so i'll believe,
asciilifeform: so i dun see from where this .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i ( and afaik nobody else ) actually put substantial effort into playing in yer tourney
mircea_popescu: here's the one point i am making, overarchingly and i should hope as loudly as humanly possible : ~THERE IS MAJOR BREAKAGE IN THE EVAL FUNCTION~, whereby man looks at 10btc in 2015, thinks "$500" or w/e it was, and then goes "the amt of anti-superficial $500 buys me is one hour, not one day nor one week".
asciilifeform: if tomorrow i tell mircea_popescu how to build death ray, will rage, 'why didntcha back in '98' ?
asciilifeform: i suppose if the gods had whispered into my ear 'go algebraize the scheduler, even tho it is not actually needed for any implementation, and you'll find buried treasure', would've dug
asciilifeform: i have a 'i want to find out what it loox like in algebraic form , let's fpga it'
asciilifeform: i dun have a 'it's no good'
mircea_popescu: yes, but wrong approach to it all! "here's why serpent's no good, here's why i don't like dea-aes etc, here's rabin method, imo best" IS something.
asciilifeform: for all i know it is not even possible.
asciilifeform: i still dun have a proper 'winner' for that tourney ! and neither does anybody else
mircea_popescu: and i have like a strong suspicion that nothing else you did hence had the same btc/hour return, either.
asciilifeform: and if i had'em in 1998, would've posted in '98.
mircea_popescu: it's healthy, let alone necessary, to rage in certain circumstances. this here being a fine fucking example -- because i still not for a second believe had you earnestly sat ass down in 2015 you couldn't have earned that 10 coin.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you have my word that i did not sit on 'ceiling tiles', posted immediately when got'em.
mircea_popescu: i will guaranteedly rage.
asciilifeform: i dun actually have pill ! ( i.e. you're in roughly same position as prior )
asciilifeform: ok, but did not say 'let's nobody else design block cipher! i hate block ciphers'
mircea_popescu: the point there is I DESIGNED IT!!!
mircea_popescu: i specificalyl said "time for btmsr cipher competition was 2015 -- it died".
asciilifeform: aha, http://trilema.com/2018/so-i-designed-a-block-chipher/
mircea_popescu: i did ?!
asciilifeform: i did not say 'let's use nao this replacement'
mircea_popescu: it's, as they call in busioness, "a no brainer" -- i ain't doing jack.
mircea_popescu: oh, that's easy, i didn't cuz i can't code.
mircea_popescu: is the idea more along then lines of "i knew about this all along, just didn't feel about telling you schmucks anything until after you poured cement" ? rather than "i literally could not be arsed to even look at this until someone poured some cement somewhere so i could pester them then" ?
asciilifeform: i had to algebraize the thing , and have just the right rng bits flip in head , to get the 'ceiling tiles' ( why didn't mircea_popescu get'em in '15 ? ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: i found this (potential?) find by carrying out an experiment over mircea_popescu's objection, lol
asciilifeform: turning up the (potential! i aint even got a proof yet) weakness of the scheduler algo, took specifically the 'let's fpgaize, i think this is solid!' approach.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i tried all kinds of approaches to breaking serpent in '16
mircea_popescu: in the sense of "wait for diana_coman to publish ada code and then i'll maybe give it 6 hours of attention". that's your 3years
asciilifeform: i dun see why conjure up the presense that 'didn't participate at useful time' ; asciilifeform attacked problem of 'blockcipherism' ~continuously for 3+ yr.
mircea_popescu: i said to diana_coman "implement serpent". that's it.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow the logic.
asciilifeform: what i dun get is wai mircea_popescu thinks he has reached the place where 'no option' , afaik he hasn't baked $trillion asic . conceivably if mircea_popescu ( who 'i will live & die by factoring-is-not-in-P !' ) can reduce problem to factoring-not-in-P, he still has option .
mircea_popescu: i suspect, if you care to know, that you have a major problem in that you only want to work on anything once it's too late. not coincidentally, but structurally, it being too late is principally part of the criteria impelling you to work.
asciilifeform: it's how pc/os ended up what it is, neh. buncha folx 'i spent $trillion and nao i Dun Have The Option to stop..'
mircea_popescu: maybe you're magical and have this option of going back in time, and good for you. i do not.
mircea_popescu: i saw the problem, in advance, i did my best to solve it, this is what came out of that.
mircea_popescu: not a matter of ~want~. i DO NOT HAVE THE OPTION.
asciilifeform: i certainly dun dispute mircea_popescu's right to do it, if he wants.
mircea_popescu: i foresaw this need, in 2015. i put 10 btc behind encouraging people to fix the problem. it died an ignominous death, what i have is serpent, that's what it is.
asciilifeform: ( why bother with cipher, then, could make 9000x point by 'i'ma plaintext! take that!' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun get it , you'd willingly use a broken cipher to make a point ?
mircea_popescu: Mocky "After enough conversations with chicks I found the pattern. They talk the same by race, they act the same they think the same. It’s like NPCs backed by a bored dialog writer wielding a Markov chain." << honestly, i dunno how much time you spent talking with us-born chickies, but the EXACT SAME THING APPLIES. and they even actively work to create such systematic nonsense, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867831 bein ☝︎
mircea_popescu: for all i know, just about the time i'm done uprooting this and planting that, you'll be geniusing the exact same thing about that. i have 0 confidence this won't happen, specifically because of historical evolution, and so...
mircea_popescu: i ain't about to change the code i have for a theory that might maybe work because the theory behind the code i have might maybe not work according to this drawing.
mircea_popescu: im not attached to serpent in any way other than in the following sense you're well fucking advised to pay attention to : 1. s.mg is a corporation, meaning ith's here to make money. 2. s.mg is also trying, but as a fucking distant second, to be a "good" corporation, however that is politically defined. it doesn't give a fuck about this, not in any deep sense, if the money's good it'll go against policy, and CHANGE policy as i
asciilifeform: ( pretty lulzy, btw, i had nfi mircea_popescu were so attached to serpent, nao i feel sad, it's almost like i killed his dog or wat )
asciilifeform: i recommend to at least draw it on paper, before throwing out.
asciilifeform: so far it's the least retarded variant i can think of. ( beats the shit out of sboxism, at any rate )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aa i see what you mean
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868297 >> congrats, ur the first person to leave a nameless comment on my blog. I may have to update my cgi to complain now ☝︎
asciilifeform: actually i do, lol
mircea_popescu: i suspect you don't have such.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideally you'd have some entirely unrelated mechanism, to do it with ( i dun currently have one to give )
asciilifeform: ( i've all the necessary logic for it , even : it dun need optimized exponentiations )
mircea_popescu: aactually... i guess i should've left that as a comment on the article in q. brb.
mircea_popescu: a skill that'll prove most important in their own fucking country, last i heard all the fuckable women they grew locally they exported
mircea_popescu: and it turns out qatar is actually more important for india than india itself realises : it's where the aspie indie elite goes to learn to be "gay", ie, "i can't get any cunt anyway, might as well get used to living with another dude, wardrobe as well as everything else comes cheaper this way, cheap enough in fact for even scum like me to get some".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno that'd be the end of the world. part of the problem of the usecase (eulora comms) is that you have highly structured inputs.
BingoBoingo: Reading the Mocky blog, I do not think I can survive the local sun exposure. Not without locals that make themselves available for oppression more readily
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-11#1860606 << btw mystery solved, once I discovered my window opens: https://imgur.com/a/s8q4SHE ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, was also a shit-test of eltsin, who 'passed', didn't so much as fart )
asciilifeform: all i got is a map , on which serbia not coloured reich black yet, but possibly simple omission.
mircea_popescu: besides, what's a mocky needed for, i got a corp and everytrhing right there
asciilifeform: i'ma guess it's in the cool-stuff landz, that were hungarian pre-war
mircea_popescu: most of hungarian culture is the result of cluj people. when i say transylvania is the larger part of two adjacent countries i kid you not, it's true.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm sure whichever http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-19#761494 gets the birdshit will have amply deserved it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and we'll show THIS discussion to the jwz/zx2c4/randomoron of the future, too, and he'll be "umm...i dunno... http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-pr-almost-two-years-in-the-swamp-an-anthology/#selection-1567.0-1567.61 etc.
asciilifeform: i'm almost curious nao, just which nadia will be getting professorship from 'discovering' the serpent lul.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dorky... why does it ?!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1868009 << i'm sure "nadia already had it" or how did that dork put it ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i.e. supplies it in rsa envelope ?
asciilifeform: shirt? pretty sure i've seen it prior, somewhere
asciilifeform: i recall thread aha
mircea_popescu: i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: (i don't blame wife, either. what's she to do, stuck with big child ? nurture, nurture.
asciilifeform: yrs ago i scoffed at mircea_popescu's model where 'they all got cucking wife', i scoff no moar
mircea_popescu: can\t even say i blame the peterls / peteds/etcs all that much. they're like those fish, found large female blob to attach to, dispensed of organs etc, now she pumps nutrients.
mircea_popescu: same fundamental problem, "hey man, i just derp here, it's just a gig, it's not my life" issues.
asciilifeform: i recall
asciilifeform: i dunno how much 'level' buncha 50-60 y.o. d00dz have; but then again i am not aficionado
mod6: Although, I'm surprised that they're not ~that~ much better..
mod6: ikr; I'm not even close to that level. The guys that I've been playing with are ex-college guys, which, are for sure better than I am.
mod6: Someday, I'd like to get the chance to play in a pick-up game with President Putin.
asciilifeform: i dun see that pete_dushenski has any biznis here. he's where he belongs, with the 'mah fambly' picz, automotive circle-jerks, etc