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ben_vulpes: i am now more completely aware of the question's stupidity, thank you all.
phf: ben_vulpes: it's a silly convention, because count(anything) would've returned the row count. select count(42) from foo would've returned the same result
Framedragger: pete_dushenski: ah thanks very much, there's another newly documented command `getarchive` in there, could you include that too, please? :) (no hurries tho, it's not like they're super essential anyway heh)
ben_vulpes: eh, if i'd done it against a table with two rows it'd have made sense immediately.
Framedragger: ahh..yeah it's super unintuitive, i think
ben_vulpes: the really funny thing is that i ran a similar query against a table with one row
Framedragger: count() takes "what to return for *every* matching row", basically. "1" is also a thing to return, so it returns >15m of "1"s
ben_vulpes: i am going to raise my hand and ask a stupid question
Framedragger: many thanks :)
ben_vulpes: "a database for when persistence means turning fsync on"
Framedragger: > We were. Never really made it past that.
pete_dushenski: "Trilema hurt my head on-and-off for Nearly a year.Then it hit me like a ton of bricks-shit." << what chrome thinks my en quote would sound like if it were ro then converted back to en.
mircea_popescu: (anyone who tried this knows it's entirely impractical)
mircea_popescu: i dunno, some bit about how the chinese emperors din't have covers on their beds, slept covered in women
phf: mircea_popescu: that'll require translation
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: i'll transition when i am ready for web scale!!
Framedragger: pete_dushenski: could you update bots page? `/msg scriba help` is up to date nao
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: fuck that guy, he left the only usable visual git client for os x to rot without releasing the source.
mircea_popescu: phf to quote from a film i don't recall, "niente coveri, solo corpi di tinere donne"
phf: lords of tmsr should have proper attire. something by moebius http://68.media.tumblr.com/2a9f398560cec9d0ddf753a440fafe4f/tumblr_ojakw6ghIS1sndzdgo1_500.jpg
Framedragger: ^ alright, worx. may not be too terribly useful, but it uses a new l33t backend provided by siphnos.mkj.lt, to be documented later
ben_vulpes: i regard this vast wasteland of unclaimed irc channels
ben_vulpes: !#s testing production
mircea_popescu: the 2nd one has a proper source, maybe just read the original ? it's a for-romanian-tards discussion of an english piece
pete_dushenski: if you have, it doesn't have a trackback at least
mircea_popescu: i cant believe i've not translated the two girls one ?!
pete_dushenski: speaking of romanian bits, thanks to the latest trilema, http://trilema.com/2010/doua-fete-argumentul-economic/ and http://trilema.com/2011/jaful-si-economia/ could use translating imo
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : romanian census 1930 was mostly paid for by the soros foundation of 1930.
mircea_popescu: cheltuieli, precum si un ajutor tehnic nepretuit."
mircea_popescu: from ancient tomes : "organizarea actuala a Serviciului Statisticei Demografice, destinata a fi una din realizarile cele mai perfectionate existente in prezent, s'a putu face in primul rind datorita concursului acordat de catre Fundatiunea Americana Rockefeller, care, prin conventiunea incheiata cu Ministerul Sanatatii, asigura timp the patru ani insemnate fonduri banesti, pina la un procent de 44.39% din totalul fondului de
mircea_popescu: they're not terribly expensive, if you have an automated process can get 10-20 up at all times with a lifetime no longer than 2-4 weeks for less than 1btc/year. experimentally that's the lower margin of enough.
ben_vulpes: whaack: TIGHT
mircea_popescu: gets around the whole "enemy knows who it's talking to" thing.
mircea_popescu: btw ben_vulpes : you might consider making yourself a process to stand up vps instances of listener nodes to spray out at you new blocks as they hear them. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: whaack: is this a trb node?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-29 18:50 mircea_popescu: whaack it is entirely possible that your node is stuck on validating that block because of lack of ram, yes.
whaack: ty! I just finished setting up a bouncer. Re the last time I was here http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-29#1550381 my ultimate solution was just clearing my .bitcoin I believe and running it again and it did not get stuck. I never figured out why i was stuck ☝︎
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 826.21, Best ask: 826.47, Bid-ask spread: 0.26000, Last trade: 826.47, 24 hour volume: 32698.58156695, 24 hour low: 735.0, 24 hour high: 829.8, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: that usg scientism article is a hoot
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/gtrl-or-gtfo/ << in other great agains from before the great great again.
ben_vulpes: who is the monoagent in webtech? i see a zillion "dev", "companies" etc
mircea_popescu: right, the soviets had the same issue, their ideology became ever more windingly complex.
ben_vulpes: yeah or why every day i come home there's some gorgeous new socialist propaganda to scour off the walls
mircea_popescu: kinda why solitary confinement is thought to cause insanity.
mircea_popescu: re the "research project" : the data's there. if anyone cares, can go use it ; if not cares, not cares. either way problem solved.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 14:41 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599676 << for the record, there isn't a case in history YET where schelling point was anything than against complexity.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599758 << i have trouble reconciling the obvious correctness of this statement with the ballooning of complexity in eg webtech ☝︎
ben_vulpes: more of an open ended research project than "production blockchain api replacement"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-12 19:32 ben_vulpes: for what it's worth, when i spot check it against other "block explorers" it's seen blocks before them.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1601941 << this is a useful record in that one can take the list of mimisbrunnr , which exists timestampted in chan, and compare to list of blockchain.info for instance, see what dt is involved. sum it up over 10k blocks or whatever ☝︎
mircea_popescu: maybe they should shoot some flaming ice for a change.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1601928 << when copper's too good, and plastic just good enough! ☝︎
asciilifeform: in other cases collisions need some form of structure to be useful, but this is only mild consolation.
asciilifeform: (consider one especially disastrous meltdown: in the merkle tree variant of lamport's signature scheme, you are hashing over RNG output. so if ANY collision whatsoever can be found, the enemy can forge signatures at will.)
asciilifeform: otherwise it reduces to a fancy crc32.
asciilifeform: if you can find ~any~ collision, the hash is broken.
mircea_popescu: in my own mind it's about as strong re this as otp, "you can get any message you want back out", but admittedly that's mostly self infatuation
asciilifeform: (to use the nomenclature in mircea_popescu's piece strictly)
asciilifeform: when you look for a hash collision, your goal is to find ~some~ M that produces the particular desired R.
mircea_popescu: you try all possible combos ?
asciilifeform: from the output with which you want a collision.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't have a proggy written, but the general idea is not monumentally arcane -- you simply work backwards
asciilifeform: information,” on Jan. 3, after the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., signed them on Dec. 15 ...'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in völkischer beobachter , https://archive.is/Xztp7 >> 'In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections. ... Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch signed the new rules, permitting the N.S.A. to disseminate “raw signals intelligence
ben_vulpes: for what it's worth, when i spot check it against other "block explorers" it's seen blocks before them. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah, yeah. less than useful i suppose then if it's mostly an indicator of node state.
asciilifeform: then again, traditional hash algos 'solve' (i.e. pretend to solve) this by 'every sub-op of hashing affects all output bits' which is largely promisetronic.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu while sleeping i had a thought re http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function and my earlier attempt thereof likewise : that the thing may not in fact be ~collision-resistant~ (it may not be so difficult to take an arbitrary desired output and find a tape that hashes to it.)
asciilifeform: but only the familiar blackhole-catchup-blackhole-catchup cycle.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aaaah, so there were not necessarily any blox mined in 3sec.
trinque welcomes the lulz of the transgendered, seed shooting us.mil of the 21st century
trinque: incidentally mats, catch any of the mattis confirmation hearing? sounded to be about 50% "but what about the womens and gays?!" before I turned it off.
trinque: holy shit, I just considered making a joke that they should have seeds in them.
ben_vulpes: there is some lag between when it learns about a block and when it reports it to irc, as it dumps and parses blocks, but it reports the logged timestamp accurately to the best of my knowledge.
ben_vulpes: no i kid, it's the time at which the node shits ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell ben_vulpes how does mimisbrunnr compute the tslb ? (is it the time block was received on your box ? or some other..?)
asciilifeform: in late 19th c. usa, the land of p.t. barnum & co, there was a (one of many) mass-hysteria crackpotteries, an obsession with 'properly chewing your food before you swallow it.' complete with maxims such as the unforgettable 'nature shall castigate those who don't masticate!' the hayek, rand, etc. folx reminds me of nothing more than of this.
asciilifeform: complete with taleb's cockstroking.
pete_dushenski: crazy’. That’s their prerogative.” "
pete_dushenski: from related msm piece, “We’ve been meeting with them regularly over the last two to three years. The only difference is that they talked about it this time,” Bobby Lee, chief executive of BTC China, the world’s largest exchange by trading volume over the past month, told the Financial Times. “I think their intent is to remind the world, ‘The PBoC is on top of this. Don’t let the price go
pete_dushenski: legal risks, policy risks and technical risks, requiring their business conduct must be in compliance with relevant laws and regulations and strictly carry out self-examination and related rectification.
pete_dushenski: "For the recent abnormal operation of Bitcoin trading platform, on January 6 the People's Bank of China Business Management Department, the Beijing Municipal Bureau of Financial Affairs jointly met with the relevant regulatory authorities of the "currency network", "currency" and other major currency trading platform responsible person, Understand the operation of the platform, suggesting that the possible
asciilifeform: in other lulz, disinfo farms working overtime, https://cryptome.org/2017/01/Steele-Trump.pdf ( no, does not exist as human text, full of scan-of-scan nonsense, but quite hilarious )
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-politicians-dont-ever-do-anything-for-the-people-a-model/ << Trilema - Why politicians don't ever do anything for the people, a model
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-general-brendan-eich-jwz/ << Trilema - The General Brendan Eich, JWZ
Framedragger: "so you have two tits right"
mircea_popescu: i now have to start writing an article IN THE MIDDLE OF WRITING AN ARTICLE. damn you all!
mircea_popescu: fwiw i wasn't terribly impressed with that particular statement.
asciilifeform: ll that right away after you made up your mind to veer off the road, and This Is Surely Somebody's Fault...'
asciilifeform: '...suppose you drive down the highway and you suddenly want to go some nice place you saw just before you pass a forest. you veer off the road, plunge into the wilderness and promptly decide that you need four-wheel drive, a huge cutting device in front of your car, much better shock absorbers, a bigger engine that could actually run on swamp water instead of getting all drowned, and then need an amphibious vehicle to get across the ☟︎
asciilifeform: davout: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3144404199547949@naggum.no.html << from 6th paragraph, with the 'swamp water'
mircea_popescu: and yes i plant my own lovage, in buenos aires, because the plant doesn't exist and "soup condiment mix" doesn't satisfy.
mircea_popescu: davout no, not really, because i buy ~apples~. your question would be "at which point you stop buying canned frozen fruit tm for your apple pie". anyone may give his own answer, but in my case it's long, long ago.
davout: mircea_popescu: yea, i guess the question is where you stop. at which point do you decide that you're going to buy these apples instead of growing them, because ultimately you want an apple pie
asciilifeform: in other languages, e.g., python, ruby, there is a lesser sin, you end up stuffing multitude of O(n) ops in places where you oughta have O(1), O(n^2) ops where with some thought you could've had O(n), etc. and the braindamage adds up
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's very symbolically imperial, also. the language of "rights" and "rule of law" makes it trival to start a "war on drugs" or "women against rape". then the state ends and everyone is at a loss why the fuck it did.
mircea_popescu: cue ballas with his "there's a difference between what you need and what you want, and the media will relentlessly give you strings"
asciilifeform: davout: in some programming systems, it is very easy to inadvertently ask the machine to solve an np-hard problem. and for 0 good reason, other than that making such a language stroked academitard cocks