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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 23:49:18 lobbes: in the mircea_popescuine logger, though, all links will use the server-side-selectory-style. By definition those links will never agree with the traditional loggers since the latter can't span arbitrary lines / text
mircea_popescu: think abougt it, isn't a priori post something you'd want ? :D
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938099 << hey, trilema has a romanian chunk. ~doesn't bother anything~.
mircea_popescu: ~the dichotomy is creative~. we don't have many (in the sense of : not any) alternative leverage points available. gotta use what's there.
mircea_popescu: yet strangely mp doesn't mind nearly as much as the bottom centile of the "red pill" crowd. how the fuck ?! is it because he's a jew that he doesn't suspect jews are in charge ? what the fuck's going on here ?!
mircea_popescu: and it can not even be explained JUST HOW!!! creative that thing that's creative actually is. let's look at one example : mp is, as a factual matter, the one who needs most things not put in. mp apparently needs to walk his bitches on a leash downtown, which romania doesn't even have words for, every newspaper in the country must drop whatever it was doing, selling cheap chinesiums, to talk about mp's weird needs now, and
mircea_popescu: and participation ~doesn't take all that much~. that's why it exists, after all, because it's easy, because it is in fact even easier than the very little use them powerful old men behaving badly might put a dumb wench towards.
mircea_popescu: this isn't actually the problem though ; as well documented on trilema, the effect on powerful old men an' their behaviour of the tavern wench consensus is still the nil it's ever been.
mircea_popescu: the dichotomy between the subjective life of the subject and the demands of the outside structure ~is creative~. this is specifically the mechanism through which it is creative : "i wonder why it is i want something that these idiots didn't put in". one possible outcome of a correct such evaluation is, indeed, "jesus fuck they're idiots". however, ANOTHER possible outcome is the ~EXTREMELY~ valuble bootstrap out of d-k rec
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no need to "stop rape", for instance. "being special" (defined as, "never being raped") is not some kind of "universal right of womanhood". no woman's born entitled to be special, she's born to be used, like any other blade of grass on this here GREEN earth. that specialdom may arise, as a mist, RETROSPECTIVELY, is one thing. but the problem needs no "solving" -- you don't wanna take the cock, don't. see ho
mircea_popescu: maybe what you're trying to select isn't something you should be selecting as part of what you're trying to do because what you;re trying to do is actually broken upstream. ODDS ARE.
mircea_popescu: ie, if "selection doesn't work for me" "why not ?" "because what i want to select recurs", give some thought whether indeed "selection is broken and should be fixed". WHY do you want to select something THAT RECURS, and recurs so much it actually doesn't allow you to extend the context slightly, one character at a time, resolving your problem ?
mircea_popescu: you can't need to point specifically to my name generally.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 20:37:34 asciilifeform: imho a logger that can't resync at all, aint much of a logger. but at the same time i dun see why a generate-statics logger couldn't be made to resync. simply a bit moar complicated.
asciilifeform: ( if he did -- presumably manually fixed, and didn't bother to make a note of it )
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-26 00:54:16 mircea_popescu: whereas on trilema you have the whole power of the mp-wp selectylanguage at your disposals, you don't need the line numbers because you can just select w/e actually interests you
lobbes: re: two or more mp-wp loggers agreeing with each other; I'm not sure they would ever need to agree with each other in terms of links... IF not indexing. In other words, each instance of a mp-wp logger and its output becomes indistinguishable from any other blog post on said blog. (in other words, if you don't care to sync, or don't care if "missing" lines, then not an issue)
lobbes: in the mircea_popescuine logger, though, all links will use the server-side-selectory-style. By definition those links will never agree with the traditional loggers since the latter can't span arbitrary lines / text
asciilifeform: the heathens pretend that they 'solve' this via ntpism. but, characteristically of heathenisms, it dun fucking solve anyffin, is a 'can't believe it aint butter!' pressed sawdust 'solution'.
asciilifeform: the historic epochtimestamps are incidentally all over the place, try setting a scratch box logger to sort ~by time~ some time and weep. ( from when phf , for instance, imported his znc, evidently wasn't 100% synced to the primary logger ; and elsewhere )
asciilifeform: (couldn't agree on translation of n-1th ea. time they got hard-reset)
asciilifeform: ftr we still haven't a pill for the url clocks problem.
asciilifeform: can't think of any reason not to ~display~ them as mircea_popescu described tho
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:37:00 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938036 << nor do you give a shit, seeing how the lines aren't indexed.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:38:22 mircea_popescu: whereas on trilema you have the whole power of the mp-wp selectylanguage at your disposals, you don't need the line numbers because you can just select w/e actually interests you
mircea_popescu: the problem with people isn't a problem with people, but with infinities : realia is somewhat infinite ; idealia is MUCH more infinite than that (whole thing neatly mirrors the cardinality of power sets, actually).
mircea_popescu: whereas on trilema you have the whole power of the mp-wp selectylanguage at your disposals, you don't need the line numbers because you can just select w/e actually interests you
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938036 << nor do you give a shit, seeing how the lines aren't indexed.
asciilifeform: imho a logger that can't resync at all, aint much of a logger. but at the same time i dun see why a generate-statics logger couldn't be made to resync. simply a bit moar complicated.
lobbes: in general auto-sync would be nifty. but just like the manual method, would need to wait until "dead time" to prevent new lines appearing during the sync wouldn't it?
lobbes: our three loggers seem to be in-sync w/re: to #t: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937944 http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937944
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:05:45 mircea_popescu: it'll benefit the nooblets immensely if they seriously spend some time groking the "turn" thing. there's a time for everything ; and for most things that time isn't NOW.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:27:04 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937909 - that's precisely the sort of tasks he got because yes, needs to do more reading and to do *better* reading; by the looks of it the US doesn't teach people how to read, somehow, it's rather unbelievable.
asciilifeform: mine appears to be 100% current ( haven't seen re lobbes's yet ) , diana_coman invited to pipe from there.
asciilifeform: would be good if didn't have to be done w/ bare teeth, but i'ma do, brb
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937909 - that's precisely the sort of tasks he got because yes, needs to do more reading and to do *better* reading; by the looks of it the US doesn't teach people how to read, somehow, it's rather unbelievable.
mircea_popescu: moreover, functional technology (as epitomized by Bitcoin) is definitionally, necessarily and unavoidably anti-socialist. so much so that reliably one can use the reverse heuristic : if something doesn't shit on the needy, doesn't it make it harder for the stupid and more expensive for the poor, that something is most likely shit, not technology
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937738 << i admit, not yet seen one since '90s where it wasn't the cap
diana_coman: but no, I wouldn't ask to have my travel key 9-rated.
diana_coman: for that matter, travel keys won't be able to self-voice but I don't see a real problem with that.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the issue was, didn't update his rating then because traveling or w/e, and look the havok it wrought downstream.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/ << he certainly is. nfi, what happened was i went by my ratings ; but his wasn't updated since february.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: isn't bvt lord verschlimmbessert?
mircea_popescu: the converse is folly, "oh, girl doesn't show her cunt". of course she does. just, maybe not to you.
mircea_popescu: ah, that wasn't even all that painful in the end.
mircea_popescu: it'll benefit the nooblets immensely if they seriously spend some time groking the "turn" thing. there's a time for everything ; and for most things that time isn't NOW.
mircea_popescu: there lolz, now you don't have to regret etcetera keks
diana_coman: isn't that the natural morgue?
mircea_popescu: "mp, you can't negrate him, we can't sell to him if you do" "fuck. i don't wanna 0 it either, it'll disappear from the lists" "well..." "fuuuuck"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:37:26 trinque: bv wishes not to be raised, and I shan't press the issue further.
mircea_popescu: just like all the other idiots ever, starting with every 4 year old. no, the chair isn't alive and didn't willingly trip you up.
lobbes: incidentally, mircea_popescu with your permission I would like to bring the bot into #trilema during the next week for further testing (it wouldn't need voice; just needs to quietly sit in background). I'd like to see how it handles a heavier log-load
billymg: in casual conversations with my boss it seemed like remote work might be an option, and although i don't think of that as a long term goal it could be useful in fueling the initial settling
BingoBoingo: LOL, of course he wasn't. What would the MULAS think!
mircea_popescu: but at least he wasn't parading the niggers on a leash downtown, amirite ?
BingoBoingo: They can't
mircea_popescu: they just can't catch a quiet spell, can they
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 13:03:01 mircea_popescu: hasn't actually read any of the links (nor do i intend to), so in theory this may be entirely baseless hatemongering on very comme il faut goodfolk who totally see the length of their nose.
asciilifeform: interesting , possibly, detail, the performers weren't entirely 'apolitical', tended to make light of the clergy/nobility , so nailed somewhat like mircea_popescu's moscopol & co.
asciilifeform re bear -- could've sworn mircea_popescu once wrote a piece re 'ursar' , the old caste of bear handler folx. but can't seem to find.
asciilifeform: a. i saw 'I'm back from two-and-a-something months abroad' and thought ' mircea_popescu & co didn't stay for the autumn rains ' etc
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: well, it's the use not the items, the usual "omg, not used according to my expectations therefore bad, abominable, can't exist etc"
mircea_popescu: but in practice, i'm well satisfied it isn't going to be.
mircea_popescu hasn't actually read any of the links (nor do i intend to), so in theory this may be entirely baseless hatemongering on very comme il faut goodfolk who totally see the length of their nose.
mircea_popescu: took like three orbitings to process, and the fucktard STILL didn't put it in, i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: "this is me sitting and you talking to people you don't know. leave it at that." was the ~actual~ answer.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937527 << will add that 'commercialize' doesn't require seekrit sauces, necessarily (e.g. FG is 100% published, to no detectable detriment)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:40:53 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty great, i'm almost surprised there aren't (or are there...) moar of these
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937512 << it's also not specifically verbotten to threaten the republic. god knows i threaten my own slavegirls, dedicated as you couldn't believe and truly and honestly with nothing else in their hearth but my... well, not my aggrandization per se nor my loving extension... i'd say just that earnest & motherly "i wish this man to get perecisely as great as he possibly cou
mircea_popescu: but to sum it up clearly and concisely : you're not required to try and commercialize everything you come up with, feel free to publish whatever it is you want ; and you're not required to try and publish everything you come up with either, feel free to try and commercialize. but pick EXACTLY ONE. don't try ye olde pantsuit magic, it neve
mircea_popescu: and yes, i had been (and for years, at that) slowly growing hostile to people doing both ends of that, ie, on one hand "i'm not publishing this, i intend to earn a living off it" and then turn around and "i ain't about to advertise this, who the fuck gives a shit, i'm not putting my precious lfie behind it, wut!!!"
mircea_popescu: but the latter comes with VERY FIRM OBLIGATIONS -- one has to DO MARKETING FOR THE ITEM. someone who on one hand doesn't relase code of item we use, therefore ~DECLARING~, just as good as if he had deeded, that he intends to commercialize item, and then failing to do any work towards that, is in fact quite dishonorable.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 04:16:36 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?
asciilifeform: i couldn't help but wonder what these people do when they need to pull one from inside the stack
asciilifeform: ( for folx who haven't been to piz house : picture desktop 'dell's stacked 12 high )
asciilifeform: i'm still pissed that these can't be bought in the south americas and have to be flown, wtf monkey men
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-20 07:35:11 mircea_popescu: can't discern if BingoBoingo is intimating he's the girlfriend ; or that he's got a pair ; or that there's independently a pair of lezzies he's following around ; or what.
mircea_popescu can't discern if BingoBoingo is intimating he's the girlfriend ; or that he's got a pair ; or that there's independently a pair of lezzies he's following around ; or what.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:49:08 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936099 << couldn't be more behind this. if nothing else, you learn whether anyone else has gravity worth a sparrow's fart.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The irony is they don't think the Peruanas, Venezolanas, or Paraguayas actually doing work in their occupied territory are people.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937386 << well, it's only been two weeks, can't say much has sedimented meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: not like it didn't link to discussion!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 11:11:17 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937305 << afaik classical irc doesn't bridge 'b/w chans' but b/w networks. ( or is the idea to bake a #t on another net and echo what is said there, via bot ? )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937369 << don't start with this, you were there when it was specced, you were all like "oh, this is clearly the right move", what 101 "unclarities" are these six months later.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-19#1937305 << afaik classical irc doesn't bridge 'b/w chans' but b/w networks. ( or is the idea to bake a #t on another net and echo what is said there, via bot ? )
mircea_popescu: "my gf is flexible" "does she do the bridge" "no, she doesn't exist".
mircea_popescu: the holy service in latin ; and when the OTHER anne, the failed anne, the spurious anne "doesn't understand how the scripture relates to her", she gets caged.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
mircea_popescu: so do me a favour an' never spend your cycles sitting there trying "to figure out" what "your destiny is". it ain't anything, you're not a livresque personage. not YET. and you don't HAVE TO BE, either.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i didn't see you say !!deed ?
diana_coman: trinque: I asked (at 8:18 local time, now it's 9:43) deedbot to deed something ( !!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=n6vP ) but it hasn't replied with anything at all; am I doing something wrong there?
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a piece devoted to this particular lolcow ( but can't seem to find in o(1)... )
diana_coman: uhm; I suppose I don't see this irrespective of results; fwiw, not even breast "proceeds irrespective of results" if you think that it adapts supply if nothing else
diana_coman: the core of it as I see it (and matching btw the breast + gender difference) is that they are not yet able to act independently (in this case: independent learning , hence yes, if you just send them to read, it won't do much)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: yes; what I don't see is junior high learning ~= baby level
diana_coman: for the other, I don't know that they learn just because they heard it enough times; it might be that they need to hear it several times, yes, but they would just the same if they simply encountered it that many times