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a111: Logged on 2015-08-02 16:03 asciilifeform:
the most critical
thing re:
the graph is probably
to make it reflect ~only function calls~ rather
than class membership
mircea_popescu: iirc we discussed doing a sort of iterated attractor
thing
mircea_popescu: people generally look
to answer
the very simple "who
the fuck is
this guy again ?" ; "he found
that quirk on so and so linux flavour" is a better response
than "i dunno, he just started
talking one day".
Reuel: good, I will start
there
then
mircea_popescu: and if it doesn't,
that's both interesting and you're already building standing as you say.
Reuel: step one is setting up a node
then?
mircea_popescu: then you can look
through mimisbrunnr and see
the sort of load bitcoin db implies,
then you'll be in a fine position
to model adequate
tests for
the profiling
thing above
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ah. well, from a simple "cs competency" perspective, doing a
trb build first is very good practice. i'll familiarize you with what's here a minimal bar of qualification and anywhere else above
the reach of graduate students somehow. and it'll show you
the power of
the
tools and
the quality of
the engineering.
Reuel: necessary
to understand
Reuel: is it necessary
to run an experiment
that answers your question
Reuel: i see it
ties into bitcoin in
the log but
mircea_popescu: do you understand
the bitcoin end of
things ? are you running a client ? ever got a v-build of
trb
to run for instance ?
Reuel: Im looking
to improve standing after all, although a bot sounded interesting
Reuel: so
this would be best
to do on a clean hdd
Reuel: its setting up an experiment, not making a bot
though
Reuel: this is
then partly hardware related as well
then?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 06:41 mircea_popescu: ok so a) gotta see if ext2 / ext4 CAN EVEN HOLD
this many symlinks. like, at all.
Reuel: no, but if I make something useful,
that would be of more benefit I guess
mircea_popescu: well, only in
the limited sense
that it'll allow people
to evaluate you.
Reuel: but, is
there a need for a logger?
Reuel: thing was I already started on
the voting game back end
Reuel: the game I can still unleash on
the unsuspecting masses
Reuel: my main goal here was
to make a bot as
to get involved a bit
Reuel: so
the game is absolutely no match for
the channel, no problem
mircea_popescu: if
they were gonna put half a hour into
the female gossip
thing you describe,
they'd have already found livejournal / instagram / whatever
they use
these days.
mircea_popescu: seems
to me
there's already a social media democracy game which costs nothing
to enter ; and at least in
the fantasmagoric minds of half
the pariticpants promises
to pay out.
mircea_popescu: Reuel if i were into
that, why wouldn't i do exactly what
the retard with "coreboot" did, or
that unmentionable dimwit with "tor" ?
mircea_popescu: "the vast majority who have aligned
theyir psychology
to
this vector will pursue an impossible fantasy at
the expense of
their labour and
their lives."
Reuel: in
the simple case of my game, it would be, at
the bottom,
the same as action movies for a large part of
the population, power fantasies
mircea_popescu: to use a ballas-ism, people who allign
their future
to
that vector how did it go
mircea_popescu: but
the problem remains : i can
tell you why any engine doesn't work in all cases ; you can't
tell me why people like or don't like anything in any case.
Reuel: seems like
two extremes
though
mircea_popescu: much like
to
the elf and her friends any round refusal of "considering what people like" smacks, residually and vaguely, of "racism" ; just so
to
the dwarf and his friends any round refusal
to refuse
to consider "what people like" smacks, residually and vaguelly, of laziness. ie,
the only reason
the elf's an elf is because she's aforedecided she won't put in any work, and all
that's left for her
thereby is astrology and "what
mircea_popescu: now, if
the dwarf runs into
trouble, his retort is work ; and if
the elf runs into
trouble, her retort is drink.
mircea_popescu: the other guy is an elven astrologer. she wants
to put in
there a large couch and other
things, according
to a complicated scheme she has, which at all junctures is justified formallyt and specifically, buyt in general it all backs into "because i
think people'd like
this".
mircea_popescu: two people are interested in
this space. one guy is a dwarf alchemist. he wants
to put in
there a large cauldron and other
things, according
to a complicated scheme he has, which at all junctures is justified formally and specifically, but in general it all backs into "because it'd be cool
to do".
mircea_popescu: so in a nameless city on a nameless street a spot of commercial space opens up. it has all
the amenties and whatever.
Reuel: I
think, you believe
that
the choice in what
to vote in is
totally free.
mircea_popescu: how can you make an evaluation as
to what people'd do ?
Reuel: I would say
this would greatly increase complexity, as well as
the cost of mistakes in
the implementation.
Reuel: Then, if it would have
to be implemented with what you would call more sane basics,
the in game money would need
to come from somewhere. Could be solved by making each vote costing actual irl money. Maybe even make many of
the in-game actions cost money. So, either a per action cost
that can be paid, or each player pitches in at
the start
to fill
the nation's coffers.
Reuel: mircea_popescu, diana_coman, re: your criticisms, I would say
that, at
the higher level,
there is a choice in
target audience, people who live democracy as implemented in
the west and agree with it will find no
trouble wasting
time on a game like
this, since it mimics familiar mechanisms (even if broken). In
this particular channel, probably not enough ppl would be interested.
mircea_popescu: o hey, in other lulz
turns out sarah schneider (college humour) published
topless for
teh fappening.
mircea_popescu: In
their late
twenties
the most intelligent among
them say
to me, "There's something missing in my life, but I don't know what it is." ; and i grin and if
they have nice
tits and are
tall enough i show
them
to
their cell.
mircea_popescu: because most of
this shit is ephemeral, like
the shitheads who author it.
mircea_popescu: "there is no good answer!!11" really ? "yes, because i will not consider
the obvious point
that
this guy's supernumerary"
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : guy who inexplicably considers himself qualified
to opine on others fails
to understand why is it
that spurious dude with no skills or abilities is spurious.
mircea_popescu: mmm. "savant of
the strange, herald of
the hypothetical, expert enigma"
mircea_popescu: lol ahahaha wait, derpy left narrative is now
that random judge can STAY an executive order ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: simonpenner so what do you do, other
than aving started a blog last year where ppl guestpost
simonpenner: I figure if you were actually up
to no good you probably woudln't do it in public
simonpenner: am I going
to get swat guys busting down my door for hanging out here?
simonpenner: I've a cat. I love. I used
to have a dog (ex's dog), I loved him. Both are good
simonpenner: well foxes are like a hybrid dog/cat with
the best of both worlds
simonpenner: well
thanks for
the invite. interesting place here
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform is a dog
that
thinks himself a cat