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decimation: when I went there was a fellow there who apparently was part of the crew that would enter the underground 'cave' formed by an explosion
decimation: in vegas off the strip there is a 'nuclear testing museum: I recommend going if you find yourself there.
asciilifeform: take a geiger along.
asciilifeform: enemy will flay you and everyone you call a friend, to try to learn where it is.
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> if you are reading this - it is almost certainly a terrible use of your time. // terrible as in wasted ?
asciilifeform: usg also had, in that period, a fixation with gigantic naval battles
asciilifeform: if you are reading this - it is almost certainly a terrible use of your time. ☟︎
decimation: you quoted a story about how they recruited 'agents' in those territories?
asciilifeform: not simply as a hiding place, but as the weapon
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I was about to point that out, it would be much simpler to rent a 'safehouse' and fill with nukes
asciilifeform: (at the time, u.s. had industry, and a good portion of it was in that region)
decimation: in retrospect that kind of "proposal" sounds more like a 'limited hangout' kind of operation
decimation: better yet an undersea missile in a tube
asciilifeform: i later learned that v. n. chelomei (famous soviet rocket designer) proposed the placement of atomic bombs near u.s. east costs using a scheme much like this. (official story - it was vetoed as barbaric) ☟︎
asciilifeform: no need for this. a simple strobe light should suffice for night search.
decimation: which raises the question, is a reasonable hydroarray a feasible addition to said small sailboat?
jurov: um.. but with increasing amount of ocean trash, won't you have a problem to locate the capsule once it surfaces from $ kilometers?
asciilifeform: (building a device that can fly back - exercise for alert reader.)
decimation: like a sono-buoy
asciilifeform: no need to buy a submarine
asciilifeform: drilling a hole creates a very distinct density anomaly that ground-penetrating radar sets (ask a construction co. that deals with underground pipes) readily turns up.
asciilifeform but likes the idea anyway. a few km down in sea is the closes thing nature gives us, afaik, to a 'trap door function' for physical goodies.
The20YearIRCloud: how do you use a signal that will penetrate the water?
decimation: when the population is several orders of magnitude less dense, "me and my army say so" is a more realistic source of power
asciilifeform: i don't know who al might've shared the recipe with, but u.s. navy funded almost exactly this scheme as a mega-project a few years ago.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: raising an army: The scale of humanity today is such that being a 'land baron' is almost impossible. Consider Mr. Yarvin's quote-of-a-quote: " As the laws of King Ine of Wessex famously put it: We use the term "thieves" if the number of men does not exceed seven, and "brigands" for a number between seven and thirty-five. Anything beyond this is an "army."
asciilifeform: build a capsule, of the smallest adequate size (al suggested inconel or hastalloy for the material. not cheap - but then again, it'll be a small fraction of the total cost of project)
asciilifeform: here's a recipe i shared with al schwartz once
asciilifeform: treasure - is usually a result of folks who bit the dust without ever getting to make use of the $goodies.
The20YearIRCloud: ND and WY i think are two states that allow a person to buy absolute land, with no further taxes involved outside of day of sale, with no government recourse
decimation: us persons simply have no access to 'allodial title', not even as a rental
chetty: if you own a bit of property (not really but thats another story) there is a paper trail that shows it ...how you gonna hide anything?
The20YearIRCloud: One good thing with modern technology is the premise of doing waht they did in breaking bad and putting a 55 gallon drum in the middle of nowhere and record GPS locations
The20YearIRCloud: Plenty , but the problem there becomes the idea of how you access it in a time of emergency should it ever be needed
The20YearIRCloud: Let's say you have a honus wagner card
The20YearIRCloud: my preference would still be a safe sunk into a concrete wall in a basement room that can't be easily accessed
asciilifeform: decimation: something was left in the Box on last authorized entry, and was found to be missing on the next entry, will not create a presumption that it was lost << conclusion: bury your goods in the forest. fuck bank.
chetty: <decimation> well the good part is I got a lot of work done on Eulora today :)
decimation: What has happened to banking in the US is parallel to the "substitution calculations" done by usg for inflation - ie a ground beef patty with filler is the same as a well-cooked steak.
decimation: re: safe deposit box << My bank's terms say: "We will not have any liability to you or any third party for incidental or consequential damages. If an arbitration proceeding is commenced, evidence that tends to prove that something was left in the Box on last authorized entry, and was found to be missing on the next entry, will not create a presumption that it was lost because we were negligent, intentional did anything wrong or
The20YearIRCloud: There's a town close to me that once every year auctions off 250-350 safe deposit box contents, you bid per box and don't know what is in them. All are seized from people who either didn't pay up or forgot about em
The20YearIRCloud: safe deposit boxes only have the safety of being in a somewhat controlled environment
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vexual lee scratch perry - what a guy.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'coinbase insurance' post - little story. recently i had occasion to rent a box at a bank (storage of various paperwork for firm.) the contract was a hilarious read. bank only insures a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically excludes damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything. ☟︎☟︎
Vexual: and a lens that makes ophtamologists rub their hands ith glee
Vexual: dya think he might develop a sense of humour?
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
gribble: Error: "bait" is not a valid command.
RagnarDanneskjol: yes, tao has a number of calc functions... some are listed here.. there are others
Vexual: its a job
Vexual: only chinese vets could claim a panda faked a pregnancy
pete_dushenski: time for sleeps. g'night b-a!
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punkman: they don't like a crowd
Vexual: you'll prolly get a fucking government grant
punkman: but they are considered a delicacy around here, cuz we ate them all
Vexual: and thats a long transport
Vexual: i think its just south of 10 bucks a kilo
Vexual: a terrier run around the paddock should do the same as suburbia
cazalla: Vexual, they do, a breeder i bought a british giant from drove all the way to tassie to get them from a woman that breeds them there
Vexual: your rabbits prolly command a higher price in tassie, people apprecieate good meat down there
pete_dushenski: a yes. tasmania.
pete_dushenski: who doesn't like a fine cheese?
pete_dushenski: “Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.
cazalla: winters are a little colder here, i've lived in sydney (maroubra) and that's the only difference, anecdotal of course
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Vexual: then theres a jazz spot a stumble away, where you can drink all the martinis
Vexual: at night, head to the rocks, theres a german spot there, 2 litre beers and bratwurst and snitzel
Vexual: find chinatown for lunch, dixon house has a foodcourt, you'll be smoked out with burning meat and spices, jostle for a seat with the asian kids, feels like hongkong
Vexual: i'll assume you've been drinking all the martinis, and have or want a girl or boy on your arm
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ben_vulpes: " My dislike of other mining nodes is a consequence of directly correlated forking dangers of alternative mining code, and I think we both know that." << one of these days i'm going to get left behind as reward for my courtesy of loyalty to the power rangers i can feel it coming but maybe if i complain a lot in public maybe the inevitable won't happen
ben_vulpes: "Bitcoind core itself of course mostly tried to accept both forks and let the stronger one win." << sounds like the sort of thing a "core" "dev team" should really address - maximum fork size < utxos? mhm.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing is - these salmon want - a rocket. and so will have to do some things they're unaccustomed to.
mircea_popescu: difference being, between how a soviet rocket works and how a school of salmon works.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> that being - that someone, somewhere, is willing to answer with his arse for what every character in the code actually causes the hardware to do. <<< this is only meaningful in a centralist approach.
asciilifeform: but must understand, this is likely a popular 'sport' and anything you see - will have been seen by plenty of others
asciilifeform: decimation: if you have a strict isp, do it in one of those 'nature preserves' where it is officially encouraged (e.g. 'amazon ec2')
decimation does not want to become a zek
asciilifeform: decimation: you can watch all you like - run a 'tor' exit.
asciilifeform: decimation: at least a few registrars take btc and don't ask too many questions
decimation: the fun version of this would be to squat on a domain predicted to be used by a popular bot
asciilifeform: somehow everyone understands that parachute, airplane, etc. have to be designed in certain ways - but mention programs? and 'you're a nut'
asciilifeform is in the process of meeting this standard for a different application, and it is very labour-intensive. but necessary.
asciilifeform: it's such a bad entry point that it probably encourages folks to study languages.
mircea_popescu: it's a good entrypoint
decimation: Sounds legit. kinda like the existence of google translate is given as a reason not to learn another language
asciilifeform: it was a terrible setback, though not for the reasons herr stallman gives
decimation: "The existence of LLVM is a terrible setback for our community precisely because it is not copylefted and can be used as the basis for nonfree compilers — so that all contribution to LLVM directly helps proprietary software as much as it helps us.'" ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2014 22:15:54; nubbins`: http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/01/24/1838241/fsfs-richard-stallman-calls-llvm-a-terrible-setback
decimation: supposedly gcc was made intentionally obscure so that stallman can use it as a crowbar
asciilifeform: nah, a string of zero length.
mircea_popescu: exactly. a succession of "sleep"
mircea_popescu: this can be a decent graduate exercise. "write the longest asm program that does the same thing on all platforms. you may pick what it does yourself."
justusranvier: Speaking of specs, davec found parts of bitcoind script validation that involved behavior undefined by the C++ spec, meaning it's theoritically possible to compile it with a non-gcc compiler and get two bitcoinds that will fork on a carefully-crafted transactions.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a sound approach.
mircea_popescu: what are they going to do, write out a spec then have the bitcoind horde pretend "it fails" ?
mircea_popescu: that's a forced mistake.
decimation: asciilifeform: why not focus on producing a readable RFC first is the question..