22300+ entries in 0.388s
mircea_popescu: full fucking stop. they can'
t build the "hypertube" or w/e, and just in the same way, they can'
t build a fleet of b2s. just, simply, overpoweringly, can not.
mircea_popescu: if you don'
t fuck as well as you used to, it's because you forgot how to fuck, there's no more to it than that.
mircea_popescu: it's not that they lost the nuke schematics. it's that they can'
t even find the boat designs from back when their boats actually floated. so they end up with littoral cardboard sheeps.
mircea_popescu: it wasn'
t so much solved as the producer documented it, isn'
t it.
mircea_popescu: oh, don'
t tell me, "we will not make payments to non 1-led addresses" hurt the butt quite THAT much did it ?
mircea_popescu: take pet along, only feed her that day if you're happy with teh results. can'
t possibly miss, srsly nao.
mircea_popescu: anyway. items who aim to ask questions but can'
t answer questions are not yet ready for peopledom.
mircea_popescu: the other moo moo strat, since we're doing moo moo strats, is, of course,
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-07#1694702 : spend a little time trying to follow a particular line into some detail, then "totally overwhelm" your betters by pointed questions. cuz you know, they totally don'
t outthink you on a regular basis.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: necessary corollary of "people can have ideas". of course, "people" can'
t, but that's too advanced for the prostitextuate.
mircea_popescu: this doesn'
t work, of course, but he'll whine loudly about the unfairness of it all.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t suppose either him or bitcoin or anything else talked about is related to the piece. the whole item is matt levine being his usual judische insolence self, whereby he imagines he can talk out his ass and he won'
t hang for it because "someone had to say the alternative thing".
mircea_popescu: whereas "don'
t say nigger" and "good guy wears white hat" is fixed form.
phf: well, those things that i brought up, kinship, religion, they are part of identity. "he's not my brother i won'
t go out on a limb" vs "my life's not my own, god told me to help even if i die".
phf: smooth, i suppose you could say that a raider wouldn'
t make a choice to trade, likewise trader doesn'
t necessarily have the inclination for raiding
mircea_popescu: this doesn'
t happen just when you want it, but generally. if you're gonna kill the dude drowning to take his underwear, you'll be stuck wearing a pair of stained underwear which you didn'
t stain yourself.
mircea_popescu: the problem with payoff is, of course, identity. to quote that splendid film, "when a man takes an oath, he is holding his soul in his hands, like water. if he opens his fingers then, he shouldn'
t worry about ever meeting himself again."
phf: ok, i'm convinced of "cooperation is what happens anyway". now i think that it doesn'
t work with conflicting interests. save person from river, potentially drown yourself kind of situation. or trade with them with smaller payoff, kill them and take their stuff for higher payoff.
mircea_popescu: but you're not helping him because he's your brother. you're helping him because you were going to help ; the part where he;s your brother is a 2nd step, where he doesn'
t get not-helped for being on do-not-help list.
phf: i understand the reversal (and it's a neat one) but i don'
t see how it's supported by anything but itself. you're basically saying that "oh someone's drowning, that's not my brother, fuck im" is what's happening, where's i'm saying "nothing's happening of note, oh it's my brother drowning! i should help him" is what's happening
mircea_popescu: doesn'
t specifically care who desdemona fucks, but very much cares if the moor sent any venetian coins back to mauretania.
phf: hmm, i'm saying that market is one of the ways to encourage cooperation, where one wouldn'
t necessarily exist otherwise; there are other better ways, kinship, religion, king/leviathan
mircea_popescu: i mean, "advanced" folk can'
t get a carpool to work, whereas "backwards" folk can drop a supernumerary child with the first woman/gaggle of children they run into, and it'll work out. "here, take this, i'll take it back tonight".
mircea_popescu: phf wouldn'
t you expect, if market encouraged cooperation, for fucking to be most common in market-driven societies and least common in marketless ones ? whereas europe has a fertility problem and chuka very much does not ?
mircea_popescu: market organizes capital, of course, and man is capital, yes, but it doesn'
t encourage cooperation anymore than it encourages the grass to grow.
phf: if you screw somebody in a repeated trade, they won'
t necessarily do trade with you again
mircea_popescu: consider the case of kitty genovese ; or else a more general, abstracted point : you go into a field where men are working, in a rural, traditional, thereby market-clean setting, and i dunno, sayu a man is drowned in the river and ask for help. they will cooperate, won'
t they ? whereas if there's a market going they'll go... "go talk to the market-specialist, we're not in that line of work", yes ?
phf: i wasn'
t actually thinking to the west, i was treating soviet union as a self-contained system. the point i was trying to make is that (and this is all very RANDian) in the absence of a market graph you needed an alternative mechanism to encourage cooperation, which in this case was the propaganda system "real soviet man does X" etc.
mircea_popescu: you had any contact with the living memory of soviet punk ? was this thing early on, "soviet too soft, gotta be moar hardcore" youth movement, wouldn'
t wash, didn'
t ask women to fuck, somewhat vaguelyt like the great leap forward kids in china.
mircea_popescu: this puts the problem in context : "don'
t defect to west because even if materially stronger, it is morally weaker. BUT ALSO!!!! don'
t defect to fucking mongoloids because even though morally stronger they... don'
t have enough dachas ?"
mircea_popescu: no, see, you're thinking "to the west" with such intensity it can'
t even be voiced. suppose for the sake of argument, defect to chuka. why not ?
phf: it's in the statement of the prisoner's dilemma, "defect" to the hypothetical inquisitors by betraying the other prisoner (i know that the terminology used introduces interesting connotations within the soviet regime, but i don'
t think that's the intent)
phf: i understand the point though, my understanding that i haven'
t evaluated in a while was that soviet were attempting to solve prisoners dilemma by training "a soviet man". brain tattooing makes sense in that respect, though my interpretation is generous to the goals
phf: perhaps it's because it doesn'
t come with a high pitched, clear voice of a true pioneer singing about rodina
phf: i'm not sure, i went to "humanities special school" it's possible they didn'
t torture us with such nonsense
phf: i ran out of the thought half way through and hoped you wouldn'
t notice, but it's not even consistent with the narrative that i was ripping from. in the original after they make the tattoo they are now ready for the highest office, etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the tattoo situation (me asking girly "why haven'
t you yet figured out a tattoo that works to put on yourself!!!") is very much like me asking alf "where is the proper computer!!!". the complexities involved in making sense of the immense jumble that modern world puts at disposal are exponential on the base, and the base grew exponential on time. we'll, likely, never catch up. yes ppls 5k years ago could lick every in
mircea_popescu: and the reason they don'
t work is very strictly related to "freedom" and you know, consumer market segmentation. as long as there's no universally meaningfull root there can'
t possibly be meaningful tribal behaviour ; and if there is such a root there can'
t be democracy.
mircea_popescu: and this is the fundamental point here : white slut of contemporary does so many incompatible things she can'
t be meaningfully tattooed.
mircea_popescu: phf is it one of those you don'
t like painting because you feel the walls closing in every time ?
BingoBoingo: <phf> heh, 2015 sportster too << Obviously didn'
t sell soul for enough if small sportster and not huge Electra Glide
mircea_popescu: just because the duke of wurtenberg also holds luneburg doesn'
t mean he thereby isn'
t the lord sovereign in stuttgart anymore. he is, the people there bow to him like they always did, whatever other lands abroad he meanwhile acquired.
mod6: Don'
t think we ever pinpointed something though.
mircea_popescu: (we're not going to even go in discussions of low pressure airflow, which is a horror the wide-eyed proponents are not intellectually equipped to consider ; let's just simply talk in terms of "i can'
t get a plumber to fuck my wife the same week but i'll somehow get together workers willing to dig a ditch so and so long".)
mircea_popescu: musk doesn'
t have 1% of 1% of the money he needs to build such a thing. wtf already.
mircea_popescu: so i wouldn'
t worry -- the only way this happens is if the chinese do a us-equivalent of their plan to colonize europe, and front the coupla trillion needed.
mircea_popescu: 1920s waitress would live in whatever accomodations she could find within walking distance of her bar ; and go to downtown like every other weekend and think this a major, awesome accomplishment. but 2020s waitress (aka "software engineer") exepcts to be able to travel all over the city each day. what, he's from brooklyn ? that shouldn'
t mean he can'
t work in the lower east side, what's he, some kind of slave ?!?!
mats: during thanksgiving though. haven'
t decided yet
mircea_popescu: but that was the glamor : "honey, you don'
t suck cock because you can'
t, not because you don'
t want to ; but even if you sucked cock, and even if you were extremely good at it, it'd still take you months to manage what i can do overnight if i fucking feel like it".
mircea_popescu: (this point, in either "intern can progress" or "sit in forum and access meaning" presentation, is the fundamental mechanism of both "rounders" and that "poolhall junkies" cheapo rehack of it : that the dude playing can decide the girl's future, a degree of magnitude above her own capacity. take that away -- it's not worth doing. and you sure as fuck ain'
t meeting the head of ny law firm socially, and play $X with him so he g
☟︎ mats: i don'
t follow at all
mats: can'
t beat that on-site experience, secondhand smoke and all
mircea_popescu: you understand the lock thing refers mostly to handling reorgs, it isn'
t historical count or anything.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t specifically recall 168000-168002 being a heavy load in that sense
mircea_popescu: the txn linked though isn'
t one of the usual suspects.
mircea_popescu: but if you say this isn'
t what's getting your fanless box...
mircea_popescu: this failure mode exists, where node spends forever unable to distinguish between orphaned chain, because can'
t ever get to where it actually verifies a sig.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 03:43 phf: you replay to 167998, you then let it run till 168000 on the network. if it doesn'
t wedge with that setup, than you have two possibilities. it is either a heisenbug, or you need to replay to an earlier block, say 167000 and let that run on the wild network, etc.
mircea_popescu: this way L only knows C after
T made a decision ; D only knows a C-candiate once user made a reply ;
T never knows C-candidate.
mircea_popescu: relays hash(it) to
T and L.
T replies to D with either "OK" or "FAIL", and reveals (C) to L. L calculates hash(OTP) and compares it with what D sent."
mircea_popescu: trinque re last para, what's wrong with you know,
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693444 ? basically replace "The user decrypts the ciphertext and returns the cleartext OTP to D, which relays it to
T, meanwhile revealing it to L.
T replies to D with either "OK" or "FAIL", and a transaction is complete." with "
T sends hash(C) to L, encrypted(C) to D. The user decrypts the ciphertext and returns the cleartext OTP to D, which
☝︎☟︎☟︎ mod6: Look. First off, no I don'
t believe we ever found the cause of this. I remember pulling my hair out trying to figure it out -- there are logs indicating as much.
phf: ~you can'
t reason about locks patch~
phf: you replay to 167998, you then let it run till 168000 on the network. if it doesn'
t wedge with that setup, than you have two possibilities. it is either a heisenbug, or you need to replay to an earlier block, say 167000 and let that run on the wild network, etc.
☟︎ phf: i don'
t remember every suggesting anything remotely similar. my suggestion would be to debug it, and solve the problem, rather than "mp's fix somehow magically resolves it"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 04:32 asciilifeform: mod6: imho manual knobs ~for unwedging~ are a fundamental mistake. nodes shouldn'
t be wedgeable, period. and the only use for a wedged node is to learn why it wedged and to make said scenario impossible in the future.
phf: i remember people wedging around there, but i didn'
t personally observe it
mod6: <+phf> that's because you didn'
t try to simply use the patch to makefile that i posted on the list << i've had a trb openbsd since you posted this yes.
phf: that's because you didn'
t try to simply use the patch to makefile that i posted on the list
phf: emacs for example with their tramp has layers of fallback (oh you don'
t have perl? it's ok, we'll do it with toothpicks, but takes 2x longer)
phf: yeah, because presumably it's written by incompetent people who haven'
t seen anything but linux ecosystem?