asciilifeform: item contemplated upstack was no sort of 'berth of freedom from inca'. d00d designing turbine parts in broom-closet-sized office, seeing no living faces other than in lift, is a thing, seen with own eyes. for the privilege he pays 2-3x tax ( and can , yes, be 'defrocked' at the whim of whatever gosplan commissions the workpieces, if rocks boat. ) however it is quite diff from life as inmate inside cube hell, subjectively. granted fro
asciilifeform: ('pissed on festival' is exactly imho analogous)
asciilifeform: it didn't work in 1500s either, luther did not by own lonesome get away with nailing shit to the church door
asciilifeform: hey some folx not simply 'fire self' but eat nagant, also
asciilifeform: aite, aka 'having problems'. i thought we were discussing 'fired' in literal sense tho.
asciilifeform: fughet 'thinkers'. not far from my street there's a d00d who sells cement drills. has for 20+y. his shop is the size of a public toilet, and staffed by his lonesome old carcass. who fires him ?
asciilifeform: rather than 'eats bank loans and pretense'
asciilifeform: is it unreasonable to hypothesize a shop that does actual biz ? of whatever kind, 'buy cheap, sell dear', parts for turbines, or whatever
asciilifeform: even cattle farm comes in 'feedlot' and 'grass range' flavours, neh
asciilifeform: afaik there isn't yet a thing where he gotta hire politruk to 'sexual harass' ~himself~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for my enlightenment, pray tell, who is the 'hr mamie' when 1 d00d runs 'owner-operator' co ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the small shitholes, 'mamie' comes mainly in the form of ruinous taxations ( erry d00d is taxes as 'businessman' , ~2x the usual rate )
asciilifeform: "security clearance" bs << asciilifeform resigned from a shithole specifically when pressed to 'take holy orders', 1 time
asciilifeform: in just about erry industrial district in erry ameri-town
asciilifeform: well forbidden is forbidden, neh. yet there they are, subcontracting for 'lockheed' etc, for decades ( and on occasion when inca deems it's time, 'have problems', joe stack-style, but not otherwise )
asciilifeform: i admit it's how i picture the joint where ben_vulpes and trinque live
asciilifeform: (i.e. no 'hr', no 'powerpoint', no 'quarterly reports', etc, just four d00dz, four 'harleys', and a coupla oscilloscopes.. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik, to the extent anyffin resembling engineering still happens in current usa -- it happens in places like that. four greybeards in a barn.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's standard 'it dun snow here' wooden shack, as i see it
asciilifeform: ( wonder, are they even alive nao? date '2009'... )
asciilifeform: 'if the great inca wants you to have dog, he will issue you one' or how did it go.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol; what didja ~think~ brit parliament did on typical weekday, when not busy fellating overseas hitler . naturally 'making rules' re the procedure for selling dogs , etc, 'regulating' what time of day 'subjects of her majesty' may take a shit, and similar
asciilifeform: it's gone, what's left is descendants of 'computer shopper magazine' and other 80s chump-baits
asciilifeform: research folx had research-grade irons , and ~separate ecosystem. ( pdp, then suns, hp, sgi, alpha, even bolix somewhere close to money printers, etc. but that 'atlantis' sank without a trace )
asciilifeform: i also have nfi what the 'space' might have looked like prior to 'getting redefined' -- near as i can tell, whole 'industry', from rise of microshit and up, consisted of exactly this
asciilifeform: there were chix, to be sure, but doing the old-nicolecci thing, shuffling paper ~silently
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly; but i'ma not that despite many unfortunate yrs spent in the company of the degenerates populating that 'biz', never once witnessed a perpetrator describable as female
asciilifeform: rright but douchebag passed, at least initially, turing test, and these 'people' generally do not
asciilifeform: but the 2 hypotheses aint distinguishable from my perch
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu says it's actual meat gurlz doin' this, rather than plain old perl, i'ma believe
asciilifeform actually dug into subj of implementing compact 'soft' acoustic-modems on e.g. ice40, yr or so ago, for fyootoor applications
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'mit phuctor'-style lulzattempts at thefts from republic, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vL8Rj/?raw=true << d00d implements keccak for z80, and naturally claims great 'invention', where , e.g., 'new meaning to retrocomputing-based perfect forward secrecy. In the contemporary concern about tampering and traps in our computing devices...'
asciilifeform not expert spamatronicist, so possibly easily astonished
asciilifeform: explains certain rubbish in my lint trap tho.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in world of spamatronics : https://archive.vn/PR2zr (tldr : htmlism idjicy where 'custom embedded font', apparently explains certain 'line noise'-style spams occasionally seen)
asciilifeform: ( cuz it was never about poisons, noshit )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re tobaccism and its discontents -- i find lulzy that 'secondhand smoke' hysteria expanded to include those electrical things that emit theatric-'smoke', somehow with straight face, even tho less poisonous than typical chix perfume, or vodka breath etc
asciilifeform: it reads exactly like ~erry other wikipg.
asciilifeform: they also dun mention 'sky is blue' and 'water is wet'..
asciilifeform: picture how vegetarian might describe a sausage maker's shop. esp ameri-sausage.
asciilifeform: the tomato-sellers take it to usg booth and trade it for ordinary moneys, minus tax.
asciilifeform: at one point i noticed that at the food market , good chunk of the crowd wasn't paying with money, or even card, but with wooden monopoly money thing . mostly mex-looking chix, with children. turns out, it's what 'welfare' comes in naodays
asciilifeform: they do that here with train tickets.
asciilifeform: lol! 'i owe my soul to the company store'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: but when, e.g. asciilifeform bought bolix, ~200 orcbux of its cost came back.
asciilifeform: it varies by vendor, and whether yer an idjit (idjits pay interest, cuz they actually use the card as a credit line)
asciilifeform: i was speaking of general-purpose 'bank gives you 5% of the spent money back'
asciilifeform: likbez for outside-reich folx : in reich, when folx pay with e.g. 'visa', vendors lose ~5% (they pay for privilege of eating it) and konsoomer wins ~5% ('reward point', exact qty varies by flavour-of-the-day)
asciilifeform: well orcistans typically can't afford to do what usg does ( i.e. print green with which, among other things, to pay chumps to use cards, in the form of 'reward point' )
asciilifeform: for all i know , somewhere in the reich there's still an old amish d00d remaining, plowing field with horse, eschewing ipnoje, etc. or maybe usg already found him and put into психушка and took land for unpaid tribute.
