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danielpbarron: heh so not child abuse but "hey! stop trying to get my farm equipment pregnant!"
mircea_popescu: "how old does he have to be before the risk of punching you out, burning your house and fucking your wife and daughter outweighs whatever useful labour you may extract out of him" is scarcely a cogent basis for discussing how old must be the girl before you can buy her.
mircea_popescu: since they weren't about to start castrating boys (mostly because the crown wouldn't let them ; otherwise us southerners very much DID, and would again if could) they had to give up on them at some point and let those "indentured" servant "contracts" expire.
mircea_popescu: the magic number 18 has a lot more to do with historical extraction. people wanted to get work out of children ; there's a soft spot where the uncastrated animal becomes more trouble than it's worth.
ben_vulpes: hence the magic number (18!!!) with exceptions (unless you're both under 18! except if we want to try you as an adult!)
mircea_popescu: there is that.
trinque: that's actually the claim dangerous fag guy made which causes teh scandal
trinque: pedo tends to mean quite a bit younger, eh?
mircea_popescu: pedo marriage still the norm, go to india, the middle east, wherever.
danielpbarron would rather see pedo marriage than homo marriage
mircea_popescu: at this point it is strictly impossible to distinguish between us "progressive" and a woman that's been locked into a house with preteens for too long and simply snapped and lost her mind.
mircea_popescu: it's not just a case of "it's our democracy when we do it and corruption when russia does it" ; the linguistic shenanigans are at the very core of libertard program. "it's denying victim their living experience when you tell susan j fowler or whatever other coreboot-broad-of-the-day that she's just not very birhgt and didn't work very hard ; but it's nothing when dangerous homosexual etc"
BingoBoingo: Well, what can they do without vocabulary?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and funnily enough they don't CALL IT THAT, either.
mircea_popescu: hence all the discussions re "fags got their weddings, pedos are next". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: a good chunk of the "psychological damage" of what's known in the us as "child molestation" and in the rest of the world, both geographically and historically as nothing in particular has to do with the batshit insane reaction of the environment. substantially the EXACT same cause driving psychological damage in "abused children" as used to drive psychological damage in "mentally ill" aka homosexuals. it did get turing to kil
BingoBoingo: Still, big media that hates frat-rape is denying victim his lived experience!
mircea_popescu: oh and to get back on the qntra topic : that the molested child enjoys the experience is neither shocking nor that uncommon.
BingoBoingo: Then he let his politics flag fly. Should have the money to do it.
BingoBoingo: He started some tech rag "The Kernel" he sold to DailyDot
mircea_popescu: is he old enough for this ?
BingoBoingo: 4srs, about time Milo went independent again
mircea_popescu: AND THEN TWITTERING ABOUT IT
trinque: I suppose next they'll egg George W's house
trinque: left is on the move, people!
trinque: lol, first flynn, now teh 'dangerous faggot'
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the sheer insanity of this, you know, dork who supposedly "is a ceo" and "we something or the other billions of dollars something or the else other companies corporate business like real men and with suits!!!1" nevertheless has the fucking time to go on campaign trail. and the absence of mind to do it AFTER the election.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes depends who you ask. according to the average 2oish yo "stem" imbecile, he's a role model.
mircea_popescu: who would, upon hitler winning unexpectedly, drop everything he was doing and start "talking to people" ? wernher von braun or joseph goebbels ?
ben_vulpes: i thought he was a blogger scraped off some other vc firm's shoe
ben_vulpes: altman is supposed to be an engineer?
mircea_popescu: btw, check out what altman does with his time. does this look like the job of an engineer or the job of a politruk ?
mircea_popescu: o totally.
mircea_popescu: apparently one bad usa is africa" track they listened to back in '85 constitutes enough basis to ignore scientific research for these schmucks.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 19:58 asciilifeform: in other lelz, 'The White House repeatedly refused to mention Jews in its Holocaust remembrance, and had the audacity to take offense when the world pointed out the ramifications of Holocaust denial.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616286 << hurr durr, nyt & friends still refusing to graduate the You Are Not The World 101 class at the School of Hard Knocks. probably signals the need for special ed, they've been stuck on this entry level subject for years now. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this directly links into the "garage chemistry = the fundamental articulation of western world", or, give everyday fellow powerful tools that touch the root of the world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> to continue: what portion of cpu time is spent verifying ultimately invalid blocks? <<< yes, yes and yes, altogether a proper STATs module should very much be part of stock trb, and very helpful if it were.
asciilifeform: as they currently 'help' in cp cases.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lulzy pieces. they kind of remind me of 1980s items.
asciilifeform: and if the bits are not the right bits -- they can 'help'.
asciilifeform: hey if bits-on-a-disk-in-police-custody can count as 'evidence' of anything else -- why not this.
asciilifeform: in other lulzies, https://archive.is/Bwz53 >> 'Now, if a suspect receives drugs by post — which he denies he ordered — the police can go over his bitcoin transaction history and see whether he has sent bitcoins to anyone recently.'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Bastard 0.7 ish node corrected will patch trb nodes at convenient time, tyvm
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 16:54 mircea_popescu: i can't even recall who was in cadsoft prior to sale.
asciilifeform: in other noose, as discussed earlier ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-05#1577994 ) >> https://archive.is/AVO23 << autodesk bought and destroyed 'eagle', the only fully functioning pcb cad for linux. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: in other lelz, 'The White House repeatedly refused to mention Jews in its Holocaust remembrance, and had the audacity to take offense when the world pointed out the ramifications of Holocaust denial.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: (given as i generate a tx perhaps yearly)
ben_vulpes: i don't mind the arcana, it's what a holistic understanding's made of
asciilifeform: other folx ( particularly mircea_popescu ) may also be interested in tx propagation, but i am unequipped to test this.
asciilifeform: i have listed the imho most interesting, above.
ben_vulpes: feel free to jot the rest down lol
asciilifeform: and a number of other conundrums, that really ought not to be conundrums this far in.
asciilifeform: is there a consistent set of peers who 'prank call' (dial and won't speak) ?
asciilifeform: what portion of network bandwidth is taken up by crapola ?
asciilifeform: to continue: what portion of cpu time is spent verifying ultimately invalid blocks?
ben_vulpes: it should be doable to 'getpeers' from the nodes from which a trb gets a block and then attempt to traverse upstream, no?
asciilifeform: or, what portion of tx are valid, and what portion -- obvious nonsense
asciilifeform: or, how much time does trb node spend rejecting crapolade from same idiots again and again
asciilifeform: and also to answer several other itching questions of mine
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is a slow-burning project of mine in its own right -- to determine what the fuck EXACTLY these things are doing, when they go 'blackhole'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'll answer this when i eat the current pcap
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the alert they're trying to send?
asciilifeform: ProcessMessage(alert, 168 bytes) FAILED << lel, somebody still sending these
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, jurov , and anybody else still running old prb nodes for whatever reasons of their own -- note that you will no longer be able to connect to dulap. (or to zoolag, when i patch it. or to anybody else who includes this patch.)
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, hn twofer: "don't tell anyone that tls doesn't even work" http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-and-mozillas-message-to-av-and-security-firms-stop-trashing-https/ and "sam altman looks outside" http://blog.samaltman.com/what-i-heard-from-trump-supporters
asciilifeform: btw dulap will appear to be blackholed from pov of everybody else, for probably hour or more, as it is catching up with blocks
mircea_popescu: originally, miner code got split off the main satoshi base sometime in 2011. there was a lot of back and forth between pre-trb prb node code and the node code miners used, but not that much in the past few years.
ben_vulpes: no but no trinque miners run cutting edge stuff only
trinque: circumventing the swamp
trinque: seems to me you'd end up closer to miners
asciilifeform: in re 'if you won't talk to prb, you won't hear from miners' thing.
ben_vulpes: in re "nobody over there even does anything"?
asciilifeform: kako can put this in his pipe, and smoke it.
ben_vulpes: neato asciilifeform, i will get this into rotation
asciilifeform: i will now also confirm that a goodbye-pingers node still receives blocks.
mircea_popescu: trinque can't hurt, if it knows its txid at that point
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the sort of thing i had i nmind : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580799 ☝︎
trinque: for other folks to note time until seen
trinque: I wonder if it'd be useful for deedbot to say a txid when sending.
ben_vulpes: heh hadn't gotten to "who hears tx first", that'll need umpteen nodes to do properly unless i misread the situation.
mircea_popescu: but he was benchmarking "who hears tx first" and that type of thing
trinque: I just keep tabs on it and give it a restart when
trinque: deedbot does lag time to time
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do try the above patch, may actually bring you back above waterline.
mircea_popescu: trinque should be more interesting to see what it does to mimisbrunnr
trinque: we'll see what it does to deedbot
trinque: lel, was just building teh snip-snippy myself
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 17:03 shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/jpFUQ/?raw=true
asciilifeform: something that was sent to it, much earlier, gums up the works
mircea_popescu: if you recall during the original blackhole debate, this was the argument in favour of "at fault is the broken node code"
asciilifeform: the other interesting tidbit is that a blackhole node is often spoken to (by would-be peers) but never once speaks
mircea_popescu: this is (at least by my lights) the result of running node on vps. interface optimizes the message on the outbound
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack, i set up tcpdump on blackholed dulap and recorded
mircea_popescu: i think that about covers it. questions ?
mircea_popescu: ie, we survived summer of forks, wheel turned, now they hafta survive winter of dorks. dun look so well for them, but we see.
mircea_popescu: hantomcircuit") find it harder and harder to cling on to their pretense actively.
mircea_popescu: as the "business" (in the sense of pretending to sv vc, that sorty of thing) portion of the larger prb ecosystem is running into a very marked bitcoin winter (recall, bitpay axed most of the crew a year ago), the ramen support for the "tech" side of prb (various mendacious scumbags like luke-jr, assorted imbeciles like taaki or that idiot who emailed the entire customer base the email addresses of the entire customer base, "p
mircea_popescu: the poor situation of the shambling abomination is the deep reason for repeated humiliations delivered recently to blockchain.info for instance.
mircea_popescu: the shambling abomination started life as this "optimization" by blue mat that others (esp the ones trying to have shit work, rather than engaged in pure github livejournalry) clung on to. but then it got discontinued