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mircea_popescu: even then. "you weren't voiced on my machine, whence did this deed come from"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i just mean the reason it can't get crapflooded with fake deeds.
mircea_popescu: this is where you link any imbecile of the geoffrey supran variety who dares blather about how "do not homebrew crypto"
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough -- it is currently the case that deedbot's deeds list integrity is currently protected by republican design rather than by usg's "cryptographic standards".
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 02:16 asciilifeform: btw does mircea_popescu know what would happen if a pgp key with his main key but new magical subkey were generated and posted to sks ?
asciilifeform: and also http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-17#1483829 thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: it is not particularly difficult for tmsr folk to avoid situation where this boojum matters. however it is quite ~impossible~ for heathens to avoid.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the whole rsa signature thing needs an overhaul.
asciilifeform: at quite reasonable expense, enemy can produce a key that sha-fp's to B98228A001ABFFC7, and for which he has the priv p,q.
mircea_popescu: or to quote from the cesspool, "This is both incredibly fascinating, and a beautiful show of the kinds of innovation the Bitcoin system supports!"
mircea_popescu: it's not so much a toy as peter todd & friends are retards.
mircea_popescu: what they say is "we recommend you mine the block yourself", because totally, this is how it goes, instead of saying "we understand this doohickey is braindamaged beyond the conceivable and the only reason it exists is the existential void besetting our meaningless existence"
asciilifeform: it was a toy, and even explicitly warned 'you must mine the block yourself, or miner can simply take the prize'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the important point there is : the whole fake bitcoin address (3something) is supposed to be "useful" in practice. this utility is supposed to be proven by idiotic "challenges" like this one put up by peter todd. EXCEPT the output does not actually SIGN the transaction claiming the bounty. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 18:47 danielpbarron: the collision was apparently real enough to trigger the spending of a bounty contained in some nonstandard address abomination >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293382.msg17950195#msg17950195
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617193 >> golden lulzies, 'Note that the value of your SHA256, RIPEMD160, RIPEMD160(SHA256()) or SHA256^2 bounty may be diminished by the act of collecting it.' ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'to prevent anal punishments, we pre-inserted this road cone into your arse. this is not an accident. it is an intentional choice...'
asciilifeform: -- the -- i shit thee not -- rfc.
asciilifeform: in other vintage lulz, 'Note also that unlike nearly every other OpenPGP subsystem, there are no parameters in the MDC system. It hard-defines SHA-1 as its hash function. This is not an accident. It is an intentional choice to avoid downgrade and cross-grade attacks while making a simple, fast system. (A downgrade attack would be an attack that replaced SHA-256 with SHA-1, for example. A cross-grade attack would replace SHA-1 wi
shinohai: A Gavinized addy to be fair
danielpbarron: the collision was apparently real enough to trigger the spending of a bounty contained in some nonstandard address abomination >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293382.msg17950195#msg17950195 ☟︎
asciilifeform: adlai: any time you feel like doing something useful -- no shortage of items. there is, for instance, a trb knob direly needing testing, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000251.html
adlai: all i gotta say is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-10#1612989 << takes one to know one! ☝︎
asciilifeform: lel d00d was tuned in, all this time..
mircea_popescu: dude, get lost. i'm going to use you for a urinal. that's it.
asciilifeform: notice that this comes with a built-in twiddle nonce -- the key creation timestamp
asciilifeform: 'A V4 fingerprint is the 160-bit SHA-1 hash of the octet 0x99, followed by the two-octet packet length, followed by the entire Public-Key packet starting with the version field. The Key ID is the low-order 64 bits of the fingerprint. ' -- ye olde rfc4880
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's an intermediate fp between the 40 char and the 8 char item.
asciilifeform: 'refused to use git for no reason'
mircea_popescu: other than us being you know, unscientific and crazy.
mircea_popescu: which is funny seeing how tmsr design was moving towards "full modulus" a year ago and "for no reason"
asciilifeform: well yes, specifically the full fp
mircea_popescu: anyway, may even work with the FULL fingerprint/
asciilifeform: the sha1 people posted the algo. shouldn't take too much work to turn it into a, e.g., gpg fp clobberer.
mircea_popescu: dude, they are mining pdfs. you understand this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically they're mining pdfs. anything, ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, please god anything, just as long as it's not the thing.
asciilifeform: more like taking unknown pills.
mircea_popescu: you're not supposed to build your life on it.
mircea_popescu: exactly like talking to unknown women.
mircea_popescu: betting is supposed to be a passtime you.
mats: i was also stung by the alphago bet ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'don't play chump games unless you stacked the deck yourself. and even then, reconsider.'
mats: it is time for me to give up betting
asciilifeform: mats: i learned my lesson re bbet during the leesedol thing.
mats: likely donged by some googler in the project
asciilifeform: which, i cannot help but notice, resembles the mirrored keys on phuctor...
asciilifeform missed the memo
mircea_popescu: it's like going from jewish princess to blue collar divorced man in the space of one fucking season.
mircea_popescu: it shall be so lulzy to watch the libertards reconstruct BOTH the shreds of their failed official-left party as well as an imaginary not-trump GOP, all this while actually having to work two jobs to support themselves because well, the endowments are gone-gone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check that out, just like the white house!
mats: i lost some coin betting against the sha1 collision
asciilifeform: 'White nationalist Richard Spencer says he’s been kicked out of a gathering of conservative activists. Spencer posted a video on the internet saying he was “politely asked to leave” the Conservative Political Action Conference. Spencer was booted shortly after being denounced by an organizer of the conference. American Conservative Union Executive Director Dan Schneider denounced the so-called alt-right as anti-Semitic, racist
mircea_popescu: somebody should give the media its pills.
mircea_popescu: so the media reports to have been "challenged" to stop mentioning the rapist raping it into an early grave by certain imaginary friends it has hallucinated into existence ?
mircea_popescu: did they mix the hagen dasz ?
mircea_popescu: i thought the pantsuit clown was "progressive" not "conservative".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they put on new set of hand muppet gloves, clitler et al.
mircea_popescu: ie what, rove + rumsfeld ? can they even piss on their own by now ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'non-alt' is the old 'gop', the one that sets up 9/11s, invades iraq, etc.
mircea_popescu: this "small" alt right seems to be about the entire right.
mircea_popescu: either in terms of who participates or what it proposes. i can't seem to find either ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, what did the pravda say, what is the "big" and non-alt-right conservative ?
asciilifeform: and with temper tantrums at wife in lolmart, etc.
mircea_popescu: these be dangerous twenty five year olds with two kids.
mircea_popescu: clearly the jew pig did a great turn for our democracy.
asciilifeform: nao, nobody expects to read about non-retarded 13337 t3rror1stz in the völkischer beobachter. but apparently nowhere else, either.
asciilifeform: 'Hester said he didn’t have money for bullets but could buy some in a couple weeks when he got his tax return.'
asciilifeform: 'On his profile, he described himself as “Zionist Jew Pig Redneck Hunting Super Assassin,” according to court documents. '
asciilifeform: ather of two.'
asciilifeform: and in same fishwrap, another 'new york deathray plot', https://archive.is/me1dv >> 'The U.S. Army veteran was charged last week with trying to support the Islamic State ... Agents swooped in during a meeting with a man Hester believed was an Islamic State contact, according to an affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Missouri. But the man was actually an undercover FBI agent who had been building a case against the 25-year-0ld f
asciilifeform: 'William H. McRaven, a retired four-star admiral and former Navy SEAL, defended journalists this week, calling President Trump’s denunciation of the media as “the enemy of the American people” the “greatest threat to democracy” he’s seen in his lifetime.'
asciilifeform: 'One of the first speeches at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference challenged the media to stop referring to the “alt-right,” a small, far-right movement that seeks a whites-only state and that strongly backed Donald Trump for president, as conservative. “There is a sinister organization that is trying to warp its way into our ranks,” said Dan Schneider, the executive director of the American Conservative Un
asciilifeform: seems to support the disk thrashing hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: there's also that.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 03:55 mircea_popescu: anyway, the point in case block we were discussing yest. i timed it at 22 minutes on "reasonable" amd.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu in re: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617048 , interestingly zoolag -- despite being an x86 comp the size of a tea saucer, and weighing ~400 gram -- has roughly 3x faster block verification (of given block) than dulap ! -- on account of ssd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: oh i neglected to revise the readme: 'they don't ever voluntarily get disconnected' is not strictly true!!!! wires are now permitted to disconnect (in catastrophic situations, e.g. flood) but will attempt to reconnect after the set interval, ad infinitum.
asciilifeform: fourth item : wires over ssh tunnel (set up the tunnel, then add 127.0.0.1:tunnelport as your wire)
asciilifeform: third item to test : two or more wires.
shinohai: ty asciilifeform .... will test this afternoon
asciilifeform: trinque: two main things to test, afaik: 1) reconnects (let it connect, then temporarily ban ip in iptables on the other side; see how long it takes to reconnect) and 2 ) bidirectional wires, two nodes 'wired to' one another, same, in each direction.
trinque: later today I will test
trinque: However they ~will~ prevent the idiotic situation where known/trusted nodes were treated equally to random scum. << lovely, thank you asciilifeform
asciilifeform: oh mircea_popescu , ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al : the wires patch has a mistake, it fails to reconnect; please do not waste time to test it until fixed.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ << Trilema - Is it still rape if I write "science" on my penis first ?
shinohai: In other news `SHA-1` is trending on twitter today: https://twitter.com/search?q=SHA-1&src=tren
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2017/yankee-doodle-henry-part-iii/ << The Whet - Yankee Doodle Henry, Part III
asciilifeform: (there is a sigop limit, but no block seek thrash limit!)
asciilifeform: disk is the real killer tho.
mircea_popescu: scripts also manage to clog.
asciilifeform: (a 2010 here, a 2011 there...)
asciilifeform: i'ma guess the elixir of slooow is: disk thrashing via snarfing of old inputs
mircea_popescu: it's not even the usual worstcase but some novel hell
asciilifeform: that xxxx74 block may well be close to 'worstcase'
asciilifeform: ( if you recall , that was when we had a trb node, offline, eat the complete chain to date from disk, with timer and valgrind going )
mircea_popescu: just profile the code eating it.
mircea_popescu: i think that's a fine example to be instrumented for study.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might be interesting to extend my eatblock experiment to modern height
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point in case block we were discussing yest. i timed it at 22 minutes on "reasonable" amd. ☟︎