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asciilifeform: as for diffie hellman, it is nsatronic , and this is fairly well known at this point ( whether because timing side channel, primes-which-ain't, and other sabotage of concrete implementations- or more fundamentally broken - is unknown )
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701836 <-- also, starting point for discussions with certain meatwot people who keep insisting that https "just works", and "why don't you propose an alternative", despite their having tried the alternative in ~1st university year. ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701761 <-- well, but. "won't somebody think of the children!" this goes on and on. it never happens in fact (as the avg gyppo in the slums of bucharest -- or "banlieue", n'est-ce pas? -- can certify), but it happens in speech. hence attempt to regulation that only increases coefficient of friction in sane economic activity. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701627 << problem is poverty of mind, not of system. "i don't want to look at large hex strings, they intimidatre me". same exact shit-for-brains that gave us pgp "fingerprints". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 22:26 hanbot: yeah, ty. i wonder if it wouldn't be wise to update that list monthly as part of reporting etc.
mircea_popescu: it is ~possible~ they actually don't know what they want / don't want anything specific.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701546 << when ceausescu died there was a very brief revival "we shall roar" orc thing because ~most of us ops in eastern europe got killed / the rest fled. so there was a bit of pushback, all the way to killing dudes way in chicago. it didn't last, principally because sometime mid 90s the decision was taken (by the russkis) the way forward is economical not operational. so ss went the cia w ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 14:49 phf: now i didn't find out about race conditions myself, that data point came from dks, they discovered race conditions as part of the emulator rewrite, but they have the benefit of having access to the necessary low level bits
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 11:41 spyked: !~later tell mircea_popescu re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-20#1701196 <-- yah, but does protecting the "proles" from own stupidity even make any sense as a statement? sorta relates to idea on Trilema on whether the empire wanted to arrive to this point (can't find it right now). enfranchisement of the stupid directly lead to that.
asciilifeform: i ain't putting privkeys ( even 'old' ones ) in a networkedclosedturd . for same reasons as i will not be sending them to whoever.
asciilifeform: and ssd is considerably more pleasant to have around in close quarters, and doesn't lead you to dive into machine cellar to swap dying drives bimonthly
pete_dushenski: but how would anyone but me know where the empty privkeys come from ? let's say i hand them off to another guy, who has no idea where they come from but via me, and then he sells on xchange, and then btc gets funneled back to you, what then ? when inquisitor comes (which he won't because he can't or he already would've) do all three of us own coins because we've each seen privkeys ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701650 << i cannot speak for other folx but possibly i'm not the only one who isn't eager to divulge all-his-btc-addrs ( much as we like pete_dushenski , picture, say , his iron were to be stolen, ect) ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1693691 << re "car wheel drm" can't say i've ever lost one of the "special" nuts myself but they are indeed a thing and it's not overly surprising that the shops won't sell you new ones but if you just drop your car off there, flip them a $50 or whatever, i'm sure they can take care of it. or, y'know, just know a guy. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: but i was as surprised as mike_c (to whom, wb btw!) that the bch --> btc market actually came through, at least for triple-digit btc sums. obv can't speak to mp-level six- or seven-digit sums.
asciilifeform: i don't much like the phrase 'trusted nodes', when you connect to trb node, you get plaintext tcp, and 0 guarantees re who or what you're actually talking to. ☟︎
hanbot: yeah, ty. i wonder if it wouldn't be wise to update that list monthly as part of reporting etc. ☟︎
spyked: thanks for the tip. didn't know, initially thought there was a time limit for that
asciilifeform: spyked: you don't need to re-voice unless you got unvoiced (typically from connection reset)
spyked: this is gonna be fun. asciilifeform, I haven't looked into hw since 2010, so there might be stupid questions coming your way once I start playing with this. btw, I don't mind getting my hands dirty with soldering, I just have very rudimentary tools for now.
asciilifeform: ice40 leaves a great deal to be desired ( it is VERY small, comparatively, and doesn't come in a no-flash version, and who knows for how long it will remain in print ) but is by far the closest thing that currently exists to the sane fpga.
asciilifeform: i last leeched the xilinx hog in 2011 and don't intend to ever update.
spyked: so from ^ the "ultra"er models don't work with the open source toolchain? I was looking at one of the breakout boards earlier
asciilifeform: ( for n00bz : no, you can't breadboard at 100MHz. gotta have actual board. )
phf: right, i didn't even comment on that aspect, because everything should be obvious from that article i linked.
asciilifeform: the orc packaging ain't a problem, imho it is The Right Thing to ban western smt spec
phf: now i didn't find out about race conditions myself, that data point came from dks, they discovered race conditions as part of the emulator rewrite, but they have the benefit of having access to the necessary low level bits ☟︎
asciilifeform: they don't belong in the future.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 22:58 asciilifeform: possibly one could try building a netbsd that doesn't try to touch the usb chip at all. then enjoy setting up sans keyboard.
asciilifeform: and not a single flipflop of state that we didn't consciously put there.
spyked: was trying to get a perspective on things. I haven't dabbled in hardware since 3rd uni year (that was almost 8 years ago). and even then... well, I got a lot to learn.
spyked: phf, slither.io is very similar to agar.io, which was similarly addictive back in the day. killed a lot of hours with it, so from that perspective, definitely wouldn't recommend trying it
spyked: !~later tell mircea_popescu re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-20#1701196 <-- yah, but does protecting the "proles" from own stupidity even make any sense as a statement? sorta relates to idea on Trilema on whether the empire wanted to arrive to this point (can't find it right now). enfranchisement of the stupid directly lead to that. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-19 23:57 phf: fwiw, if the goal is to put an existing lisp machine onto an fpga, then i don't think macivory is a particularly good target. the goal would be to run Genera, which is severely lacking sources for critical components.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, obeasts don't have proper holes. Gravity and all that.
BingoBoingo: They can't even bend their own to follow the groupthink when targeted for the minute of hate
BingoBoingo: Well, zher democracy can't be that serious if they can't hold the line
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wasn't serious, she put no btc on it.
mircea_popescu: there was one major cultural power in the time uncultivated minds can furthest think back to, a time whose murmurs come to them through the great-grandparents, and that time wasn't napoleon 3's paris. it was vienna.
phf: and the introductions to eliade's book don't go into apologism (unlike evola books, all the english translations require an mandatory disclaimer, that he was a racist, but only a little!1)
mike_c: asciilifeform - closed turd client was necessary because I didn't think this would even work, and it was one time thing. so not worth investing time in vs. spinning up VM and then destroying it.
mike_c: I can't actually fix the numbers for you, because the numbers are wrong. Note in the example how it says the small blind was 1 million and change.
mike_c: This only identifies hands where someone put money in the pot and wasn't in the summary. Cuts it down to 1,591 bad hands out of the 300k
mircea_popescu: it can't be the opposite. not on amazon, not with the stupid title, not with that schmuck from "culture wars" magazine hurr durr.
BingoBoingo: Well, She isn't actually. She's part of the environmental hazard
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, her solution is to not leave the house ?
mircea_popescu: this is like 9 yo telling you that the bath dissolved her snatch. you can't corrode just the seam, as a concept, leaving behind the item without a seam can oyu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they had cannons, just didn't use them as cannons because no gunpowder.
mircea_popescu: you don't need symmetrical parts to make steam engine.
phf: but i agree on the overall points, though moving forward from cadr wouldn't be so much backporting, as "writing in the missing bits"
asciilifeform: phf: i haven't tried the fpga one
asciilifeform: you wouldn't want to use it nakedly tho -- tiny, by modern standards, addr space
phf: but it doesn't have all the source code.
phf: genera is the software layer to ivory's hardware, it's usually what people are talking about when "superior development environment!11" etc. symbolics architecture is crufty idiosyncratic, so taking its hardware without also the software doesn't make sense
phf: fwiw, if the goal is to put an existing lisp machine onto an fpga, then i don't think macivory is a particularly good target. the goal would be to run Genera, which is severely lacking sources for critical components. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Shame this poor mother can't send the author back for a warranty claim. https://archive.is/phQzk
BingoBoingo: !~later tell r0nin- I don't talk privates with stangers
spyked: yeah, but must still be of some use though. I don't know if there's even a genuine Lisp machine in ro
spyked: it's cheap enough to hire a carpenter that I didn't need to buy ikea. and yeah, it's probably cheaper
mircea_popescu: software is the worst offender here, but hardware is also pretty bad. consider -- i don't want to buy "A fridge", i should buy standardized compressor units, and so on. why do i want "the fridge" ? there's no need to debate "whirlpool" vs "obamacare". compare discrete items.
diana_coman: don't tell me it's java now...
spyked: anyway, the one and only advantage of UPB CS department is that for now it still has the resources to bring up smart people, most of which unfortunately turn into goog/fb/whatever employees. I don't think that's gonna last for long though. wish it did, but...
spyked: mircea_popescu, Poli survives on local socialist democrats. I don't know how to compare those guys to West pantsuit.
spyked: he's okay, we chatted a few times, but I don't know him very well. it's hard to judge most people in the faculty higher than by "mint rubber or not", and he's pretty hard working at least.
spyked: yeah, it was very easy to conflate "list can be described as either nil, or pair between something and a list" and "list is defined as". I could rewrite sometime if you think it's worth it; I don't think it is, I was just trying to show how reasoning about software isn't trivial even when you have a framework for that, let alone when void *p = ...;
spyked: I don't like Wordpress, so I decided to roll my own
mircea_popescu: turns out the whole hello & welcome works out a lot better when i don't have to ask "so who are you". who could have predictated.
spyked: nope, and google doesn't seem to help too much. :\
mircea_popescu: r0nin- china doesn't pay fucking taxes to the uk. you'll take it back in exchange for fucking gibraltar is what you'll do.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- look, this "deductively emplaced" government you keep thinking of doesn't exist irl.
mircea_popescu: now they make houses for russians to buy, to have them stolen away. the switch to chinese didn't take.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 03:55 mircea_popescu: i can't find the trilema article illustration with the three girls under cold water but inserted by reference.
mircea_popescu: that he couldn't be arsed to read/write, i expect
trinque: did the pantsuit mayor last time, wasn't enough, now nigger mayor who will seriously review serious matters and things.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-12 01:57 mircea_popescu: back when their bulls weren't all mechanical yet.
mircea_popescu: eh it doesn't look big enough to crash
trinque: see the antecessor for something that doesn't have opinions re: db
mircea_popescu: provided owner can't be arsed to dih
mike_c: I don't think the market will last long enough for automated service to be worth it, but I'll turn the cranks if anyone wants me to clean out some spent keys.
mircea_popescu: (though traditionally the way "bitcoin doubler" scams work is that they pay off initially. and i don't expect this "bitcoin cash market" thing is anything else, however it may be interpreted by the retard crowd)
mike_c: well sure, but who gives a shit about social media. it doesn't have any btc.
mircea_popescu: (of course in reality there isn't, but w/e, not the worst business idea i ever heard.)
mircea_popescu: in principle there's you know, 100mn dollars worth of free money sittibng on ground, if you get 1% of that you really don't need a job.
mike_c: right, if it was moved post-fork, doesn't matter
mike_c: still 4,393 bad hands. down from 5,013. so doesn't cut out too many
mike_c: well, seems like 80% of those are only going to be missing one player, so filtering by that won't help you
Birdman: it seems to me that the bug im looking for is most likely to appear in hands processed that aren't sequential as the sequential ones are most likely entirely fragmented and the ones with only one player missing are the ones im most likely looking for
mircea_popescu: the only reason everyday joe doesn't encounter capital discounts is because a) too small and b) too stupid. otherwise even someone running a small video rental comprehends the difference between accounts receivable depending on from whom, and so on.
asciilifeform: brain cycle ain't cumulative
mircea_popescu: because... he doesn't have any!
mircea_popescu: why shouldn't whatever spare cycles his brain has be used to improve tmsr-rsa ?
mircea_popescu: because he hasn't.
asciilifeform: take redditard as a container -- why shouldn't however many 'tidebux' he has squirreled away, chase scarce btc in market ?
mircea_popescu: because usd doesan't buy you anything you actually want ; and redditard can't make anything you actually want.
asciilifeform: shouldn't take much brain, to grasp this
mircea_popescu: yes. but that's not under dispute, the "convince them" part is. they were convinced, and it didn't even take that much in terms of machine gun chains.
mircea_popescu: and you know i'm right, because soviet distributed goods in the exact same manner, and ppl... didn't "pay" units of nothing for them. and this had no impact whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: if i promise you a talking donkey and a cunt on your forehead in 2020, and you don't get them, this means i confiscated a talking donkey and a forehead cunt ?
mircea_popescu: your idea is very feminine, you know, "i met this crook, and he told me ia cu mustar mimisor ca face bine la ten and that he'll marry me. so i imagined myself practically married. and then he didn't marry me. so he confiscated my marriedness!"
asciilifeform: the gold bar that inca can't take off your corpse, is called btc