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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes hey, does fetlife want to hire you too, or did they taylor the pop-up ?
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you keep doing this number whereby you drop by now and again to expose us to your magnificently solipsist persona.
mod6: ag3nt_zer0: shinohai has it. no gpg2.
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: you've been coming by for how long, and what have you produced?
shinohai: ag3nt_zer0: best bet is to simply nuke the Ubuntu gpg and build from sauce.
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: What troubling news? TRB still exists, and management of the ISP development in a transition process http://pizarroisp.net/?p=5
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: what kind of question is that?
trinque: mircea_popescu: oughta be able to get that out this weekend.
deedbot: ag3nt_zer0 voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !!Up ag3nt_zer0
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, the first error I find in my published code, yes; there was the mpi error I corrected, previously
mircea_popescu: diana_coman is that like the first ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's what i like about idiots, that they're determinedly idiotic. rarely you run into amateurs, it's generally pros all the way. << "expert beginners"
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: be so kind as to comment on the post, my good man << alright, cool.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 21:13 ben_vulpes: i would also like to deposit these funds with a non-involved individual to seal in blood the capitalization of this entity
a111: Logged on 2018-02-20 04:12 mircea_popescu: im guessing the manager holds on to them ? or yuou want a separate treasurer ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: That might be something for us to consider, I do believe that ben_vulpes said he would handle this himself, at least for now. I guess there no reason why one couldn't be brought on later if the labor involved in that becomes to great for the operations manager.
mod6: (That's all I've got for now, other than those things, looks pretty good to me ben_vulpes. Nice work!)
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for your guidence here.
mod6: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, any one else, feel free to weigh in on any of my Q's here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> wherever it feels like neh ? << Ah ok.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> sure, when bonds convert, same as everyone << Sounds fine to me.
mod6: "asciilifeform, mod6, and the chairmen of The Bitcoin Foundation will each appoint one board member, hire ben_vulpes to manage Pizarro, and hire BingoBoingo to perform remote hands labor."
mod6: Possible change to: "asciilifeform will pay for BingoBoingo's plane ticket home out of his own pocket, with mod6 as backstop and ben_vulpes as secondary backstop."
mod6: Alright, one thing that can be cleared up imho: "asciilifeform will pay for the ticket out of his own pocket, with mod6 as backstop and ben_vulpes as secondary backstop."
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> mircea_popescu: i gotta say that i do not understand the point of the candid photo request << There is a crisis of faith, and the request is for an act of good faith in addressing the crisis.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i gotta say that i do not understand the point of the candid photo request
joecool: ben_vulpes: i'm pulling the rest of the documents off pacer right now
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i guess once the eucrypt adventure is sealed a cover letter re ada-c integration may be a good idea, for future reference.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 20:27 diana_coman: aaand gprbuild 2011-4 apparently is strictly married with gnat4.6; gah
joecool: mircea_popescu: nor do they need to publish it as that
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so basically a rut is shaping up here, "use gpr from adacore -- gnat / others dun actually work" ?
BingoBoingo: <mod6> I'm gonna give mircea_popescu, diana_coman, BingoBoingo, asciilifeform, phf, and others time to catch up and weigh in, if so desired.<< It appears my opportunity to worry on this came and was addressed while getting the tooth repaired. 2300 pesos. That
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 17:31 mircea_popescu: and to ben_vulpes that you will not allow the natural and understandable desire of strive avoiding to guide you into nonsense, but will firmly commit to clearly and openly discuss problems.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you committed to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785088 ? ☝︎
mod6: I agree, on both parts mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is rewording, not addwording.
mod6: So, let's see: 5 BTC from mod6, 5 BTC fom asciilifeform, 1 BTC from The Bitcoin Foundation = 11 BTC. One board seat for each of these; mod6, asciilifeform, and The Bitcoin Foundation. ben_vulpes, and BingoBoingo are to be given Special Stock Warrants for their work.
ben_vulpes: "mod6 and ben_vulpes have extended 5 BTC of The Bitcoin Foundation's capital in credit to further start-up and operating costs associated with taking over the ashes of BISP and bringing a new venture to profitability. asciilifeform will match the Foundation's capital 1-to-1. "
mircea_popescu: and with that, there you go : have mod6 and asciilifeform each pay in 10 btc, have the foundation give out 1 btc also, making a total of 11 ; give tbf and the equity partners a seat each for a total of 3 ; have ben_vulpes and BingoBoingo get stock warrants monthly on some sort of agreed upon scheme and there you go.
mircea_popescu: and to ben_vulpes that you will not allow the natural and understandable desire of strive avoiding to guide you into nonsense, but will firmly commit to clearly and openly discuss problems. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but those were ~warrants~ mind you.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i hadn't disclosed that yet, at the time of purchase it seemed appropriate to disclose in the monthly
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 16:51 ben_vulpes: not unreasonable, and it does clean up the ownership structure significantly.
trinque: * mircea_popescu obviously said it better than
trinque: ben_vulpes obviously said it better than I could have. the foundation's interests are in bitcoin; couldn't be more broad a justification for involvement in society as the chairs deem.
mircea_popescu: quite literally, "measure to so and so is coming before pizarro board ; ben_vulpes is voting x, mod6 is voting y, foundation should vote z according to so and so considerations..."
mircea_popescu: mod6 nothing prevents you from discussing it publicly. "here's the issue before the board, here's what i think foundation should do, here's what ben_vulpes thinks it should do, this is what we'll be doing, comment"
mod6: mircea_popescu: I think the offer on the table, from ben_vulpes, was for him to be "manager". Am I correct, ben_vulpes?
ben_vulpes: so ftr i've disposed of 1.16578854 BTC of the foundation's capital this month; 0.8 in purchasing mircea_popescu's debt and 0.36578854 in servers owned by the foundation; so the sum to which the foundation's piggy is involved is 0.8 BTC
mod6: ben_vulpes: yeah, the SoBA is gonna be a bear this month indeed.
mod6: I'm gonna give mircea_popescu, diana_coman, BingoBoingo, asciilifeform, phf, and others time to catch up and weigh in, if so desired.
mod6: So reading through some of the comments, questions, concerns rasised by mircea_popescu, and diana_coman, I started thinking yesterday that maybe -- since there are specifically hard-to-draw lines between mod6's role as Foundation Co-Chair, ben_vulpes's role as Foundation Co-Chair and their roles as ``managers'' or ``management'' in Pizarro ...
asciilifeform: oddly enuff mircea_popescu mentioned time, and its abuse; asciilifeform is using a chess-clock system atm, has 3m remaining
asciilifeform: knowing only what's been said so far by mircea_popescu , it'd seem to me as if the story would have ended similarly, even had the dope never been discovered. unless the meth was somehow the reason for the entire town having 1 surgeon left.
asciilifeform: so then i cannot resist to ask, how did mircea_popescu solve the surgeons
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for sake of argument, what means 'fix' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is missing out on a great career as psychoanalyst ?
mircea_popescu: in other news, ben_vulpes / mod6 , i had a good rant all summoned up on the topic of "motherfucker, after years of watching me do business publicly, including the lot with bingoboingo, you lot revert to the tardstalk style of 'secrecy' the moment gotta stop nodding along and actually put hands into pie".
BingoBoingo: trinque diana_coman: sounds like solid ideas
trinque: anyone opposed to me removing pete_dushenski from the RSS list? this benchwarmer commentary thing is about enough. contribute or get lost.
fromloper: I joke that the OS is actually cursed since every CPU arch that it has been ported to has died relatively fast. Since it's being ported right now to x86_64 I hope I'm actually right.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> "Looks like you tried to comment off a stale page. Reload the article, count to three and try again." << for future reference, mp-wp comment fix is in the edit here: http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/ , and will be a patch once that project can move again. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: answered
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: responded
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 19:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779901 << prolly what threw him.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm getting dental work done tomorrow. I would like to blog the experience of turning 32 in Montevideo with Pictures, but I guess that can be a separate blog.
BingoBoingo: BingoBoingo's insistence on submitting to active management, particularly from ben_vulpes in light of his experience..
BingoBoingo: <mod6> ben_vulpes, BingoBoingo, asciilifeform : Keep me honest here, am I missing / forgetting anything else that needs to be unearthed? << BingoBoingo sent a tarball of fiat side paperwork, datacenter and BingoBoingo's South America allowance paid through march. Emotional back and forth on BingoBoingo's part of the sort where "Uruguayos can all fuck themselves" to "This place isn't so bad, but all the Uruguayos can go fuck themselves".
mod6: thanks diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 17:45 ben_vulpes: (not to derail, but i've moved the Pizarro provisional charter to http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 , comments actively sought from eg diana_coman hanbot mircea_popescu lobbes )
mircea_popescu: so that you know, ben_vulpes can just press a v tree when he needs to stand one up. and so on.
phf: mircea_popescu: well, i know that hanbot is waiting for a vdiffer that can actually produce a genesis from what she has, current one fails because of the whole -- regexing
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:26 mircea_popescu: 11 days should be enough for alf to bake the boxes i expect. danielpbarron i think he's better suited as they're right next to each other ; but pending discussion with bb can you fedex some pogos ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 18:23 mircea_popescu: speaking of that, hey phf how's the new vdiff coming along ?
mod6: ben_vulpes, BingoBoingo, asciilifeform : Keep me honest here, am I missing / forgetting anything else that needs to be unearthed?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> last call on this matter : are the surprises done or is there more exoticism waiting to be sprung on innocents ? << The only agreement not stated in the charter was indeed, stated in here, that alf doesn't want to be involved with mircea_popescu as backseat driver.
phf: mircea_popescu: yeap, 24
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 18:26 ben_vulpes: i'd been drafting what turned into the charter from very nearly the very beginning; there's no arrangements or agreements that are not covered in the linked document.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:55 asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there.
mircea_popescu: for the record http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-18#1784603 doesn't actually square with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784318 ; but if you say as ben_vulpes said that http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-18#1784794 i will believe, as it neither breaks my bones nor picks my pocket. then it'll get enshrined through the passage of time, and then if we later discover it was not factual we're going to have a fine mess on our hands. so ☝︎☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 17:43 ben_vulpes: phf: please to send fg's to http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kcjWc/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 14:49 danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, the pogos? i sent them and phf has them
a111: Logged on 2018-02-18 14:10 mircea_popescu: that aside : danielpbarron phf what ever became of those fgs ?
mod6: It's no secret that we need mircea_popescu's, hanbot, and S.MG's business.
mircea_popescu: ( ben_vulpes mind that trilema permits narrower specificity, eg http://trilema.com/2018/experimental-results/feed/ actually feeds only comments ~to that article~.)
ben_vulpes: this is for the full contract period, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lmao T favicon too eh ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes fix the comments then i'll explain what i mean by reference to it!
mircea_popescu: in other news, ben_vulpes mod6 is there some discussion that was had in foundation board as to the wisdom/opportunity of commitment here ? are you basically trying to stretch capital or how exactly did the logic go ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes every time i try to comment it says "stale page".
ben_vulpes back later, looking forward to mircea_popescu's comments
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you want comments here ? or would rather there ?
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated punkman -1 at 2016/06/02 13:53:07 << timewaster.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 04:43 mircea_popescu: now - wut of all of this ? maybe it was the same guy, i guess, maybe there was a conspiracy to reboot the server, i guess, maybe etcetera. i'm unconvinced nor do i see it matters any.
hanbot: mircea_popescu basically they made a constitution ( http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/A5yUZ/?raw=true / just moved to http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 ) yesterday, there's no releasing of whatever private discussions prior. they're going to do some power testing on customer boxes as a courtesy. ben_vulpes is going to take a few boxes there maybe next month. BingoBoingo "unsnarled" an mp-wp of unknown provenance, sadly he can't use the genesis item yet. some
hanbot: mircea_popescu sure thing, gimmie a coupla mins
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's negotiated at some point. there's lengthy practice on the subject, of course.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 19:53 BingoBoingo: diana_coman: One thing I've learned people watching here... It turns out boys are the shy gender.
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, in this sense -- 33% being the indemnity cost?