asciilifeform: make them secret << the only tamper-evident concept worth anything is the kind only evident to the intended recipient.

asciilifeform: Chillum: we are thinking of what intelligent smugglers might do a decade from today

asciilifeform: (has obvious caveats, but may still be cost-effective)

asciilifeform: Chillum: for a hypothetical smuggler, balloon only needs to land within range of cell tower and connect for a few seconds, send enciphered coords

asciilifeform: esp. if you have them made at somebody else's press

asciilifeform: i would also add that the 'uncopyability' of hologram is greatly exaggerated.

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5009/5307743155_c1862e4a33_z.jpg

asciilifeform: clockwork released, depending on time, sandbags or payload bomblets

asciilifeform: dropped thermite and hexagen

asciilifeform: and cost almost nothing

asciilifeform: Chillum: if you're not familiar with the fusen bakudan - it was a very elegant & clever design which exploited facts about high-atmosphere air currents

asciilifeform: for those who insist on balloons, at least study the state of the art: http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/41791.html/fusen-bakudan-balloon-bomb ☟︎

asciilifeform: balloon << again, gigantic radar (and wind sail) cross-section.

asciilifeform: brb

asciilifeform: ^ no longer fits the 'not distinguishable from actual bird except at visual contact range' bill, does it.

asciilifeform: say, canada goose.

asciilifeform: ordinary bird.

asciilifeform: at any rate, we know precisely what machine ought to look, weigh, and function like.

asciilifeform: any conductor can be it.

asciilifeform: arbitrarily thin

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one of my intended applications for waveguide motor was to make ornithopter transition from joke to practical

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: heat layers << as birds do ?

asciilifeform: ;;google ion lifter

asciilifeform: needs power source about 100x denser than LiMnO2

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i designed, on paper, such a thing. ionic lift.

asciilifeform: again, huge cross-section

asciilifeform: there is one quite like it hanging in a museum here.

asciilifeform: ^ yes, famouse

asciilifeform: try hiding that as a 'bird.'

asciilifeform: you get a 'goodyear blimp'

asciilifeform: and power source.

asciilifeform: for anything worthwhile as payload

asciilifeform: calculate necessary envelope of gas!

asciilifeform: Chillum: the most effectual lift gas, H2, is about 1g/litre

asciilifeform: Chillum: gigantic radar cross section

asciilifeform: anyway, placed here for the enjoyment of the gentlemen t3rr0r1st3z

asciilifeform: electric - no louder than a drill

asciilifeform: and noise

asciilifeform: burning gasoline gives off heat signature

asciilifeform: more like an andean condor.

asciilifeform: or even a 'cessna'

asciilifeform: but not a 'boeing' either

asciilifeform: (payload, naturally; wings; extra)

asciilifeform: did i miss anything ?

asciilifeform: kg of LiMnO2 cell

asciilifeform: ;;calc 84*250/400

asciilifeform: out of my arse i pull a 250 watt engine.

asciilifeform: 84 hr. voyage

asciilifeform: let's suppose we are satisfied with a leisurely 100km/hr transit.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: pigeons: let's scratch the arithmetic itch. approx. 8400 km from me to b-a. a LiMnO2 (non-rechargeable) battery yields approx. 400 Wh/kg. ☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: although i suppose in different cultures there might be other names

asciilifeform: this is known to schoolchildren

asciilifeform: agent is the fella who recruits assets.

asciilifeform: who is surprised.

asciilifeform: probably a higher qualification than having attended harvaprinceyalebridge

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the thread where i posited that being a kiddie diddler is a prime grade qualification for becoming a usg stooge (on account of having a ready jail string to be pulled by) ?

asciilifeform: for no particular reason, in some schmuck's garage

asciilifeform: that burglar decided to play with

asciilifeform: one even including a power saw

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: more than one case in usa

asciilifeform: probably happened

asciilifeform: because it has a somewhat glossy pinhole

asciilifeform: and then try to prove that the toaster you sent does so

asciilifeform: let'em pass bans against 'recording servant of the king'

asciilifeform: for archaeologists.

asciilifeform: but putting the idea out.

asciilifeform: not proposing to craft this personally, mind you

asciilifeform: ultimately doesn't need to be any more complicated than a typical 'pNohe'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: golden-toilety << not necessarily

asciilifeform: 'harassment weapon'

asciilifeform: purpose is as much to drive the enemy mad faster, as to preserve any cargo

asciilifeform: if necessary

asciilifeform: the headsoff youtube

asciilifeform: let'em spend money searching for way to crack drum and not show up on youtube.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: again with your habituation to the atomic dirigible

asciilifeform: 'heighten the contradictions', bankrupt the idiots

asciilifeform: let them begin to audit eagles.

asciilifeform: 'the way to predict the future is to invent it' (TM)

asciilifeform: nobody sits and audits eagles.

asciilifeform: jurov: you'd be surprised at the minimal radar cross section necessary to get anyone's attention

asciilifeform: jurov: or mechanical 'pigeon'

asciilifeform: (i discussed several possible designs in past threads. basic principle is that a private key is destroyed upon the first sign of handling, and a secondary spare key signs every subsequent frame of recording. frames prior to this can be believed with some confidence if device arrives)

asciilifeform: (2) will be a cherished item, costly and mailed back'n'forth by typical owner and vendors

asciilifeform: in the end, products like this will have to ship either 1) by charter courier and/or 2) with tamper-sensitive omnidirectional video/audio/gps/inertial nav recorder

asciilifeform: 'Mycelium Entropy opened by Border Agents' << entirely unsurprising. 'how're we to know that it isn't full of crystal meth?!1111'

asciilifeform: (unless you're stupendously loaded and don't mind shelling out 30 btc if you ever pull 'zap' trigger)

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: it is intended for pretty much anything -but- mpex

asciilifeform: 0 to supply voltage.

asciilifeform: <Chillum> ... Can they be hooked to a serial port? << if you are thinking of the rng discussed in last week's thread (a component of cardano, not yet released machine) it is an analogue device with a ttl schmidt trigger out

asciilifeform: <Adlai> asciilifeform: what are you generating TBs of << was, at one point. molecular dynamics crud.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... child porn is in jimbo's history << wai wat? l0l!

asciilifeform: not that i expect it to fail on any pogo. but it'sa pons asinorum

asciilifeform: <trinque> ... turdel_with_telnet.gz works over here << congrats!

asciilifeform: 10tb of legal content << i have easily 10TB of -generated- contents, and none of it is film or audio

asciilifeform: don't believe the lies of 'never dies.'

asciilifeform: 10tb solid state drive << flash still disposable.

asciilifeform: then fully automatic

asciilifeform: then tftp the turdel blob over << not the correct way to use tftp. you leave the demon going, pointed at your build image

asciilifeform: nubbins`: ... tftpd that you can install on your local machine << try 'atftp' under gentoo