asciilifeform: 'they can stay unfallen under the weight of their imbecility longer than you can stay solvent' or how did it go

asciilifeform: take qin shi huangdi , say. definitely a credit, one of the few credits, to his.

asciilifeform: dun have to be mass/konsoomer oriented.

asciilifeform: iirc no less a man than hitler, supported whole stable of alchemists, quacks.

asciilifeform: faux crypto ain't ever going away, it is like homeopathy, astrology, fills a niche in the poor, the lazy, the intellectually powerless, for 'control'

asciilifeform: it already does not exist, 'but the squirrels don't know'

asciilifeform: what's to keep mircea_popescu from building one in his cellar ( supposing he felt like it )

asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu was of the notion that you don't need economy of mass to do si fab.

asciilifeform: 'if i had a ' hamme^H^H^H^H^Hfab, i'd start with very humble things, like... rom.

asciilifeform: (for some applications this matters)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tru! but won't be pin-compatible with traditional roms

asciilifeform: ideally you'd have the glass window on it, as on an epro, also! but strictly so that you can read it optically.

asciilifeform: (oh imho a future otp rom, if anyone finds himself sitting on a throne, and wants to make one, ought to have not one but TWO fuses per bit. so that nobody can turn a 1 into a 0 later by blowing an unblown fuse. so you'd have 10 -> 1; 01 -> 0; 11 -> dead cell, ergo dead chip; 00 -> blank cell, only found on blank (new) chip.)

asciilifeform: but nope. it went the way of mircea_popescu's top hat.

asciilifeform: i ask, naively, for tech of 30 yrs ago to be available at some price point

asciilifeform: not without paying for the fabbing wholesale (at which point you have asic, and can simply have what you want in the asic)

asciilifeform: for instance, i wanted to make FUCKGOATS in otp. no dice.

asciilifeform: (they don't come in any size bigger than , iirc, 64kB, either.)

asciilifeform: the supposed otp roms you can buy now, are actually eproms without the quartz window. ☟︎

asciilifeform: sun, iirc, made one, but that was eons ago.

asciilifeform: connect to whatever, lose all state when unplugged.

asciilifeform: physical ones. the kind that run from rom and just look like lcd monitors with keyboard jack and nic.

asciilifeform: or what, it won't process 'click on exploder and go to such-n-such url' ?

asciilifeform: ( you can easily piss an exe into existence, via vnc, using 'alt codes' , or by getting hold of exploder and pissing in a url to load from, or possibly other ways. similar process in other os with exposed vnctron )

asciilifeform: ( consider the barbarisms winblowz folx are STILL stuck with, e.g., vnc. )

asciilifeform: not moving bitmaps when there is any way to avoid it, also.

asciilifeform: i've lost track of all of the crackpot 'i can't believe it's not x11!'s.

asciilifeform: (there is, as of yet, nothing resembling a tolerable substitute for x11 protocol, sadly.)

asciilifeform: if i ever make the fpgaized thing, it sure as fuck won't bother trying to drive an lcd or eat keyboard, wtf, just speak x11. ☟︎

asciilifeform: that the console is not really needed

asciilifeform: i always thought this was one of the spiffiest things re the smbx boxes ☟︎

asciilifeform: so phf's setup is the usual one then.

asciilifeform: 'genera shits x11olade, unix box -- displays to screen and eats keyboard'

asciilifeform: aaah i was thinking of the traditional, rather than the x11istic, meanings, yes

asciilifeform: seems like a way to make a really slow xterminal ?

asciilifeform: ( and do i misread, or is phf's setup the reverse of the usual one, where genera is the server, and unix box -- client ? )

asciilifeform: interesting ^ -- apparently x11 was not as standard as i thought

asciilifeform: oh while phf is awake ! : didja ever get that ivory cpu working ?

asciilifeform: (large, small, == the original disk, all same.)

asciilifeform: and i have literally that disk here, in the tray, 0 result.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: on examination it turns out the box is a 'wallstreet'

asciilifeform: PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-20#1436604 << was even tested!111 ☝︎

asciilifeform: phf: the wacom ? it's a 2nd mouse, aha

asciilifeform: phf: how did that go ?

asciilifeform: PeterL: ^ that's all there ever was to it

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i don't even see any mention of g3 lappy on the vendor's www

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: not that particular one, no.

asciilifeform: with timings & all.

asciilifeform: hey there was actually a standard.

asciilifeform: standard, you'd think, pata. but nope.

asciilifeform: i tried same disk i used (successfully) in 'libretto 100ct', still 0 result.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: yea, them

asciilifeform: i tried five different ones, incl. compactflash adapters, no dice.

asciilifeform: btw maybe pete_dushenski can tell me the seekrit of how to get 'lombard' to eat an ssd. ☟︎

asciilifeform: if the box eats reasonably ordinary (e.g. sata) disks, rather than, say, differential scsi (sgi, sun) or archaic ???s (symbolics 36xx, others) -- even easier.

asciilifeform: *a tip from

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, pete_dushenski , trinque , et al : here's a top from asciilifeform's house of horrors : don't bother selective-booting the things. just yank the drive and put what you want on it ~directly~, then put back.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what kind of box was this

asciilifeform: ( it'll be interesting , however, if i ever actually turn 'nqb' into something like a btctron, to see what it'll run on, with the programmable memory footprint and hard-realtime mechanics.. )