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mircea_popescu: keep
things simple. i'd rather see a bank of eight upt and another bank of 64 rs holes on
the machine
than
the current bs.
mircea_popescu: computer-i can has rs for slow or ethernet for fast, and
thassit.
mircea_popescu: it's how los angeles went
to shit, and new york before it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, usb suffers immensely from
the utf effect. "only plug with power in it, everyone gotta be
there!11"
mircea_popescu: there's many possible approaches
to
this ford we're not at yet.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a chip is a chip is a chip. it'll do whatever
the fuck.
mircea_popescu: still present of course, not hobbist 1k dollar cost. but nothing compared
to
the 1trn foundry runs you
trinque: mircea_popescu: aha, and in my head
there was
this ACPI
table you could ask
the BIOS for or w/e
mircea_popescu: he usually misstates
this as hav ing
to do with cpu foundries etc, which it pointedly does not.
mircea_popescu: trinque
the more important point he's making is
that sanitization of software'd best start with motherboard redesign
trinque: I certainly concede
the point
that
there's no sane way
the kernel build process could go other
than "better pack in everything" and
then snip.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's certainly a LOT less meaningful
to speak of some supposed linux-windows distinction
than it was in 1997.
this is what bumbling imbeciles a la ermin gun sirer aim
to communicate, in
their bovine fashjion, when
they say "windows is perfectly safe" : not
that windows is anything but
the crap it always was ; but
that
they feel confident
they've managed
to smear it on everything so bereft of alternative one "sho
mircea_popescu: "what happened
to computing ?" "it was captured by
the craptree"
trinque: and phy doesn't even appear
to exist without mac init?
trinque: I'm not about
to defend whatever gay decisions linus allowed
mircea_popescu: so basically, we make a usb diagnoser, you stuff it into mystery box, it spits out
the equivalent of makefiles for it, you go
to hot box, create image, plop it into mystery box and it boots ?
trinque: and
then you go build all
the drivers elsewhere and come back
trinque: sanity would dictate you boot something which can run all
those checks ~and not
the fucking driver code
too~
trinque: that has no business being
there and not further upstack producing
the .config you need
trinque: k,
there is a check at
the beginning of every module which involves "is
this hardware present" for drivers
trinque: you keep wanting
to drag me
to a point
that's easily knocked down; it wont happen
trinque: then you go build only
the drivers you need somewhere else and come back
trinque: just a minimal linux kernel
that boots, can interrogate hardware IDs and fart out a .config
trinque: and
that's still not better
than "you only have
the code available for what you intend
to do"
trinque: aha, I'd at least like "look, network driver is
the last
thing you may ever load"
trinque: if
there were, you'd boot a minimal environment
that can produce a kernel config,
then you'd go build your kernel,
then bake
that into your very own ISO
trinque: isn't my doing
that
there is no
tool
to produce a kernel driver config other
than booting EVERYTHING
THAT EVER WAS
trinque: asciilifeform:
that's living in sin and you know it
shinohai: The Prof
that really isn't a Prof @ cornell
shinohai: What was
that you said yesterday about Windows being "Perfectly safe" now, Mr Sirer ?
mircea_popescu: and
this in
the best case, a good half simply buy
them
to deny it
to memory strokers in
the hope of geting more $$$ later.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and re "folks",
the elephant of sadness in
the field everyone's been dancing around since forever is
that none of
the buyers buy for anything like a sane puyrpose. much like
the 55 firebird buyer who isn't buying it in 2015
to make
teenie boppers suck his cock in it ; but
to drive it by city dumps and industrial zones which used
to be a
town and stroke his memories.
mircea_popescu: it's not like you aim
to
take
the found machines
to
the kinko's and copy
them into more exemplars.
mircea_popescu: but
this is a red herring, because your stated aim with
the archeology is
to populate your head not your desk
mircea_popescu: this being
the substance of
the whoile discussion since yest : you claimed
to want something you showed you have ; i deduced
the confusion must be resolved. "concepts" in
the sense of "metaconsiderations" aren't interesting ; concepts in
the sense of concepts you already have.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 04:37 asciilifeform: on
the other hand,
there is not ONE sane cpu on
the market.
the kind with enforced
type
tags and bounds.
mircea_popescu: yes but i suspect you don't actually know what
the word "concept" means.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 03:39 asciilifeform:
the old iron, doppler , is not -- contrary
to
the delusions of 'collectors' -- interesting per se.
the ~software~ was not even interesting per se -- it was a
tall pile of stinking mit hacks.
the CONCEPTS, however, as described in
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284 , WERE interesting.
mircea_popescu: if
the only way
to get a kock gpgtron was
to dig one out of
the one clothing store in utah
that accidentally got all
the 18 evcer produced and sells one now and again when
they stumble on
the box in
the basement -- would your idea of
the gpgtron be closer or further from your current, and correct, idea of it ? which, unless i lost
track, goes along
the rails of "nothing in
there is salvageable ; full rewrite" ?
mircea_popescu: there's
that expression
that
there's
two kinds of fools in
this world,
the kind
that says
this is old, and
therefore good ; and
the kind
that says
this is new, and
therefore better. just because we're awash in
type 2 idiocy from
the ipaditiots and mactards dun mean
the
type 1 went away.