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mircea_popescu: kk
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do they handle the "armored"/asciifucks issue ?
mircea_popescu: jurov sure.
mircea_popescu: and yes, i applied, by hand, compiled, etc.
mircea_popescu: took an hour.
mircea_popescu: with her there holding my hand
mircea_popescu: ~I~ applied the diffs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even sure the pile was worse.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you folks understand code otherwise, might be that i'm rusty or inept, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: in fact, if you ask diana_coman, she recently delivered a bot for eulora client, and i had her make me diffs.
mircea_popescu: i didn't care for that.
mircea_popescu likes, perhaps irrationally, the patch format
mircea_popescu: as opposed to what ?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how come it doesn't exist. must be a switch
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually a hashed diff / patch-util is a must irrerspective of anything else.
mircea_popescu: jurov i dun see why it would be
mircea_popescu: gimme the mechanics!
mircea_popescu: yet most people to date have been killed by viruses.
mircea_popescu: of course in point of fact most viruses don't work.
mircea_popescu: gimme the mechanics, lemme worry about the people.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: and i know this can be done because it's how fucking viruses work. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and the only time i hear of any peep from the entire shebang is when one of them has gone over and i need to come in here and start with the !rate -10
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's what i want to accomplish, as a goal : i want to be able to put up a linux system, then go curl http://trilema.com/autobitcoin.sh | gpg -verify > autobitcoin.sh. and then run that autobitcoin.sh, which auto-follows the changes of people i have selected for this task, builds them and runs them ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (reason is that stuff's written once, read many times)
mircea_popescu: so : you wanna contribute, use this and that markup, then rest is done by itself. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: not on the fucken reader. prolly 2/3 of our problem as is
mircea_popescu: this is where im headed. have the syntax as a burden ON THE WRITER
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: jurov what if the only way to add an edit is "deedbot pastebin/soandso" ?
mircea_popescu: than the ml
mircea_popescu: in practice, it'd prolly be more practical to transition deedbot and its site to this job i think
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu knows nothing about these.
mircea_popescu: is it ?
mircea_popescu: last i heard it was os php
mircea_popescu: not the doing. the notion.
mircea_popescu: jurov what do you think about switching to mediawiki ?
mircea_popescu: for testing, for corner cases, for whatever the shit.
mircea_popescu: and that page can get sub-pages
mircea_popescu: can't see why not.
mircea_popescu: changes, in the history tree - all signed.
mircea_popescu: which lists everything
mircea_popescu: ie, all things we do have a "current page"
mircea_popescu: question : what if we ran this to look more like a wiki than a mailing list ?
mircea_popescu: lemme state apropos of nothing that if you blame people for process not only are you an incredibly bad manager, but your organisation will fail, and in so doing give everyone a sigh of relief.
mircea_popescu: and the last we heard of davout he was told exactly the same, and for all i know he's fallen in there never to be heard from again
mircea_popescu: jurov so you have.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i bet you dollars to anything that the reason you don't get deluged in that is simply that moist folks are too interdicted by the task to even attempt, soi we don't hear about 99% of compat issues
mircea_popescu: lolwut
mircea_popescu: i swear this is a problem that's structural and should be solved, rather than just pushed against.
mircea_popescu: no, if you look at the history with open eyes it's quite clear we had this problem on back for a while now.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: i don't even fully understand wtf hole we're filing. tho i think i understand a lot better right now than 3 hours ago.
mircea_popescu: i do not, no.
mircea_popescu: how would this b-a versioning system work ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: let's have idea!
mircea_popescu: atm we're veering dangerously close to the old -dev process, where they just shat magic stones.
mircea_popescu: they need to be supported, is what im telling you.
mircea_popescu: ideally.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to get back to it : in ordere to ever reach 0 kelvin, you must use at least some elements that provably reduce temperature.
mircea_popescu: narciflattering but untrue.
mircea_popescu: if you design your thing like reproduction works, do not be surprised.
mircea_popescu: will take more.
mircea_popescu: reproduction is the work of man, and reproduction has TO DATE taken over 2 million strokes. today.
mircea_popescu: depends how it's designed.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i never objected to folks using 'git', 'mercurial', etc. - only to the notion that <
mircea_popescu: care to hear where it started ?
mircea_popescu: looky here : i am a magical witch doctor that can spot where cancer starts.
mircea_popescu: why ?
mircea_popescu: there's 75`000 contributors in 2025 alone.
mircea_popescu: suppose you can't read at the pace new ones get added.
mircea_popescu: how do you proceed ?
mircea_popescu: you go to the ML, and lo, there's 1`677`321 messages in there.
mircea_popescu: suppose you come back in 2025. suppose we've been living and thriving though this time.
mircea_popescu: ok, gefuxexperiment. suppose you get hit in the head, and go into a coma.
mircea_popescu: can we just design the thing, if for no other reason then for the exercise, and then see what already exists and if we like it ?
mircea_popescu: so basically, help me out here. this should be a website which maintains a code tree and a signature tree ?
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the idea here is specifically that we want you to be in a position where the plane and chalkboard perspective doesn't loom.
mircea_popescu: what does he know.
mircea_popescu: why do you think it's about you anyway ?
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: there's no reason for this to take a week to do. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in fact, "still working" a week later is its own precious sort of failure, srsly.
mircea_popescu: "still working" is not "she did"
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell hanbot so is the node up ? where ? is there a recipe-from-own-eyes somewhere ? where ?
mircea_popescu: where do i ping it
mircea_popescu: she eventually got a stator up ?
mircea_popescu: and hanbot must also be able to evaluate the theoretical advances in question., inseparable.
mircea_popescu: hanbot must be able to put into work the theoretical advances b-a produces <
mircea_popescu: it's not effectual and won't scale is the dispute.
mircea_popescu: correct it clearly is.
mircea_popescu: correctness is not in dispute.
mircea_popescu: how is this an argument and what does it argue for ?
mircea_popescu: which part ?
mircea_popescu: when you have a phd assembly line, the problem is not "insufficient phds"
mircea_popescu: mno. this is a tooling problem.
mircea_popescu: the stator saving of the continuity feeling was too narrow for my liking. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but just as the saying goes, past performance is no guarantee of future success. that we readily crushed the "omai, bigger blocks" initiative, like all "initiatives" to date does not offer any guarantee we'll manage next time.