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trinque: english
though impoverished has "iteration"
too
Framedragger: btw supposedly
there's a new iteration/model of esp8266, anyone has an opinion?
phf: you get sloppy with opsec and
that 3 people
team
that's been drawing paycheck on your assignment for
the past 4 years is going
to close in
phf: i'm weary of
things
that require Wasp lifestyle
though, can be done, good
to be able
to do it, but it's not something you can bootstrap from normal state
mircea_popescu: eminently
the sort of
thing resisting civillian population can do with little risk
to disrupt obama-gestapo.
mircea_popescu: get a network of
these
thick enough in urban setting, an' farewell
to arms.
mircea_popescu: the idea of getting signal picked up/repeated by
the old "item attached
to someone else's car" is
the golden
ticket.
phf: well,
they didn't print
this simple fact in "young electronic" so i wouldn't know, i like
the idea of msec bursts
though
mircea_popescu: if it "obeys
the law" i pointedly don't want it, and FOR
THAT REASON.
phf: you still have good old "fox hunt"
though
phf: it's hard
to push anything interesting over shortwave
though, unless you're prepared
to do pirate broadcasting, because of crypto. can't broadcast encrypted stuff
phf: ben_vulpes:
that's easy, someone always adds a shortwave bridge.
ben_vulpes: wake me up when
they work over shortwave
phf: i was excited about scuttlebutt for couple of minutes. usually hacks
that come out of "digital nomad" circles are at least worth looking at since
they have a lot of uncommon requirements built in (must work over 14.4 dialup, etc.). until i realized it's written in javascript by a hacker with "200 packages in npm"
mircea_popescu: i find wordplay a fine substitute for competent engineering. it betrays such a wordliness in
the cunning linguist responsible.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i find it's very important
to establish aforehand what each barbie doll will wear, do or say at
the dollhouse
teaparty.
ben_vulpes: could possibly expose some
tiny fraction of user base' actual literacy skills
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:04 asciilifeform: EVERYBODY
thinks
they're soooo much cleverer
than dumb old asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: well, 100mn in
tomahawks just about worth 100mn in migs.
mircea_popescu: transparently, screamingly a case of "now
that we got something, let's let church and state back in". hurr.
mircea_popescu: i would characterise it as "they got confused on
their own
terminology and backported orphan chains into
the story"
Framedragger: i wonder how you'd categorise
the 'affect heuristic' as kahneman et al. call it.; i.e., when you make decision with at least partial influence of current emotion. it's very *fast* (thereby falls under kahneman's
type 1). ridiculous scenario where it's useful: i'm chased by
tiger, see
two paths in woods, one has sign 'DANGER' in red, i don't have
time
to even parse word without making decision,
mircea_popescu: it's iffy, human body comes out of
the hackpile, inc. labs
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah, a proper reflex closes in
the spine.
there's opf course conditioned reflexes which close in
the "brain", but not a very conscious part
thereof afawk
mircea_popescu: all
those shots of people both facing
the camera grimacing ? 18month old baby fare.
trinque: comes from
the spine doesn't it, or even more locally
mircea_popescu: anyway. heuristics are not involved in watching daytime drama, which is what
the
type 2 described above is.
Framedragger: kk. yeah i won't argue further without doing some decent mp1
thought here :)
Framedragger: (but i'm probably conflating
things
too much, maybe you'd call such reactions something else)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger reflexes are not a proper subject of
this discussion, seeing how we're discussing "thinking" as in, brain phenomena.
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Framedragger: they are mp2,
the one with lower ordinal, and my point was
that it's still hella useful. can you employ
the methodical and analytical mp1 when you
touch hand on hot stove? no
time
to route
through brain.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-24 18:01 mircea_popescu: previous flight lost an engine foil, concorde ran it over, it cut a wheel, wheel exploded, large fragment of
tyre hit underwing, shockwave broke a fuel
tanker, fuel gushed out and caught, engineer cut
the engine next, at which point
they had 2km worth of runway left and needed 3
to abort.
Framedragger: also just
to note, (obvs)
type 1 (mp-type 2) has its merits and is important. but yeah i got your point
mircea_popescu: you propose we also sort planets with earth in center and main sequence stars from
the sun onwards ?
Framedragger: well historically in
terms of planet
timespan,
type 1 got our asses
to here..
mircea_popescu: "you couldn't have meant
that because if you did mean it you'd have lead with it."
mircea_popescu: SORTING is
the most important activity of
the human brain. and you should see how much
trouble well experienced slavegirls encounter when
their words are interpreted on a first-priority basis.
mircea_popescu: if you're wondering, mp doesn't use
the reference because
the introduction de novo is a paragraph,
the discussion of differentiation is a book.
mircea_popescu: which is why prussians came up with it. fought a helluva lot of recruit idiocy
to arrive
to
the concept.
Framedragger builds hasty internal map of 'mp
type 1 is kahneman
type 2, mp
type 2 is kahneman
type 1'..
mircea_popescu: and
to link it
to blogging :
the point of blogging (daily!) is
that it forces an easy and painless
transition from
type 2
to
type 1 in
the heads of
the practitioners.
there's no promise as
to
the rate of conversion, but
then again
that's
the best you can get for painless.
mircea_popescu: to go back
to
the machine model : until you're running symbolix, don't pretend like you're computing.
mircea_popescu: as a general rule, people who can't produce genus/difference definitions for all
the symbols in
their own output are better off not
thinking yet, as what
they
think
thinking is isn't.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nate
the latter ; under
the (broadly correct) assumption
that a quiet head works and a loud one doesn't.
this isn't so different from, eg, buddhism.
mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate
think.
there's
two kinds of
think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of
trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ;
the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional
triggers / detriggers are visited in succession.
the prussian model was never concerned with
the former in any sense, but merely aimed
to elimi
☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's important
to de-equivocate dumb ;
there's
two kinds of machine
that may be casually referred
to as dumb : one
that is very slow (eg, z80) / one
that is very demanding on
the programmer (eg, windows). good programmer wouldn't really call z80 dumb, bad programmer wouldn't really call windows dumb.
this directly
translates
to humans,
there's a kind of dumb
the incompetent identify mostly disjunct from
the kind of dumb
the c
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 17:27 danielpbarron: file is 682M -- maybe
that's
too big?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 18:08 Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i
thought one of
the parts was a c proggy. quite certain it is, asciilifeform mentioned it multiple
times. python is
the web backend afaik
mircea_popescu: you may snag some decidability issues (depending exactly how unique id is generated -- remember keys are not unique in
this sense, kinda
the point of phuctor)\
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re "nothing here"
the idea would be
that upon user submitting gpg key, page reloads *instantly* (vs. near-instant page load on current phuctor - reloads only after key inserted into db), shows permalink and "waiting for insertion" msg; html could have property
to auto refresh every second until master responds with any links
to other keys. but i understand asciilifeform's reasons against
this
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:34 asciilifeform: imho
to even suggest such a
thing, betrays a very serious misunderstanding of
the concept. dumb humans are in every respect an inferior version of
the machine.
the only
thing more agonizing
than programming comp, is programming dumb humans.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:33 Framedragger: (i'll just note
that
the *permalink* can be derived on
the slave box, and nowhere did i say something contradicting
this)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i
thought one of
the parts was a c proggy. quite certain it is, asciilifeform mentioned it multiple
times. python is
the web backend afaik
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:18 asciilifeform: understand, if i paste a gpg key into phuctor, and cannot
then ~immediately~ link
to it in-chan -- phuctor is broken!!
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:17 Framedragger quite certain he would get erection from
that small c program in phuctor, and
that is great