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asciilifeform: srsly nubbins`
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 12:31:44; nubbins`: did karpeles elbow a button when he deployed test code to gox production servers?
PeterL: nubbins` I was under the impression that bitbet shares get either a part of the sale of assets or 0.00001, whichever is higher, are you saying they get both?
cazalla: does this drama add to reduce the value of the limited edition posters you made nubbins`?
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 17:39:26; asciilifeform: i must agree with phf. and i think this is how nubbins` ended up killfiled by mircea_popescu, for the 'i speak for trees, for the trees have no tongues' thing.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:33:30; phf: nubbins`: the core of the issue (the way i understand it) is whether or not mp can use personal funds to pay out bets, and whether he can later ask for those funds back from shareholders. that seems to contradict the contract, so the accusation goes, he's in breach of contract. seems simple enough.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:33:27; phf: nubbins`: i think it's a pointless to discuss (and takes away from the core of the issue) whether or not miners are conspiring against bitbet. ascii's been known to say that lizard hitler personally disconnected his node, nobody cared to pipe in then, because it's an established local way of talking and thinking (не веришь прими за сказку). miners are a cartel, they can collectively decide
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:33:26; phf: nubbins`: it's a shame that you chose this approach for your denouncement. some people are here (myself, maybe ascii) not to make money, but to fuck around with novel ways of doing things. it would've been nifty if, as a "lord" if you will, you picked up the game and made your accusations formal, maybe solicited a judge from the wot, made it interesting somehow! you don't have to obviously, but the approach tha
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 17:38:00; asciilifeform: nubbins`: was it really meant to live only until the first disaster, however small? e.g., stolen server ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> nubbins`: or was the idea << or possibly the system that worked well for s.dice was simply carried forward, with not enough thought given to the matter. "hey, it's also gambling".
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 17:37:40; asciilifeform: nubbins`: the one mega-mystery in my mind is still the 0asset thing.
asciilifeform: i must agree with phf. and i think this is how nubbins` ended up killfiled by mircea_popescu, for the 'i speak for trees, for the trees have no tongues' thing. ☟︎
phf: nubbins`: that's not the meaning of the paragraph. not "what" you did, but "how" is the focus., and the sentence you're pointing at is an exposition that frames my perspective, in a form similar to "some of us here are shoemakers and we blah blah blah". whatever blah blah blah is, it's not usually about how shoemakers can not shoemake anymore, but is more like "i speak for shoemakers"
asciilifeform: nubbins`: or was the idea that it ~ought to be~ successful enough to be able to cover any loss with simply the profit from any particular month ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: was it really meant to live only until the first disaster, however small? e.g., stolen server ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the one mega-mystery in my mind is still the 0asset thing. ☟︎
nubbins`: <+phf>nubbins`: it's a shame that you chose this approach for your denouncement. some people are here (myself, maybe ascii) not to make money, but to fuck around with novel ways of doing things <<< nothing about what i did prevents this from continuing.
phf: nubbins`: the core of the issue (the way i understand it) is whether or not mp can use personal funds to pay out bets, and whether he can later ask for those funds back from shareholders. that seems to contradict the contract, so the accusation goes, he's in breach of contract. seems simple enough. ☟︎
phf: nubbins`: i think it's a pointless to discuss (and takes away from the core of the issue) whether or not miners are conspiring against bitbet. ascii's been known to say that lizard hitler personally disconnected his node, nobody cared to pipe in then, because it's an established local way of talking and thinking (не веришь прими за сказку). miners are a cartel, they can collectively decide what the protocol behavior should be ☟︎
phf: nubbins`: it's a shame that you chose this approach for your denouncement. some people are here (myself, maybe ascii) not to make money, but to fuck around with novel ways of doing things. it would've been nifty if, as a "lord" if you will, you picked up the game and made your accusations formal, maybe solicited a judge from the wot, made it interesting somehow! you don't have to obviously, but the approach that you chose was basic and ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 14:35:55; nubbins`: hey, do you guys remember yesterday when MP said he'd steal 750 BTC worth of outstanding bets if he can't find a receiver for bitbet?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: we had this thread ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i have nfi why he transmitted without fee. just as i have nfi why the operators at chernobyl reactor 4 wanted to 'test'
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what would have been your conclusion if he had transmitted with a fee but same thing happened ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: hanbot's advice was derived from working with mptronics
asciilifeform: no, srsly, mp's elbow button aside, who is the example nubbins` would have us learn from ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: and who then was 'actual business' ? mtgox ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i thought you did not believe that mpoe was a market ?
nubbins`: !v assbot:nubbins`.rate.kakobrekla.5:3dd5c75e6eb580d676a8bec10313e0623b3ffc472704cfc7f67d01d4cb8244a9
kakobrekla: nubbins` i dont have any data on mempool backlog during the period
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: was is essentially what nubbins` said earlier ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: so you would operate it yourself, for no reward, for a year ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: yes well the question was not about bets. it was about how long you would have mircea_popescu wait for a receiver.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what would you do in his place? spend the rest of your life waiting for a receiver ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: neato
asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc he did.
asciilifeform: so turns out nubbins` has more in common with mircea_popescu than with asciilifeform
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 14:12:45; nubbins`: i assumed this was "normal" until it just stopped happening one day
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:51:20; nubbins`: "we'll have enough to last us until we're dead"
kakobrekla: nubbins` not my pic but i use this for streaming flacs (with external clock) http://img.canuckaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1057680-logitech-modwright-transporter-rare-all-black-finish.jpg
kakobrekla: nubbins` i havent had a record player connected to my setup for years also
asciilifeform: nubbins`: presumably it is for folks who habitually blow the amp
kakobrekla: nubbins` yet still garbage
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i've even seen ones with tube amp !
asciilifeform: nubbins`: it did not recover from cray being dead.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: surely not the immersive cray ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: see the immersion cooling thread, physics does not cooperate
asciilifeform: nubbins`: which ?
asciilifeform: nubbins` !
assbot: Logged on 17-10-2013 13:29:36; nubbins`: heraldry look OK?
assbot: Logged on 11-09-2013 13:46:32; nubbins`: sneak peek of a concept sketch for the Eulora heraldics: http://imgur.com/Rx0KQDZ
jurov: nubbins`: i take it you're stabbing/hugging each other in the pederasty context
nubbins`: * danielpbarronhugs nubbins`
danielpbarron stabs nubbins`
shinohai: Nice logs again someone must have given nubbins a xanax.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: aha
mircea_popescu: sure, so you keep the nubbins` out of your house. great. they're going to put some shit on the radio. popculture!!1
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 13:26:24; nubbins`: more like "case 2: the shop pays a cleaner once a month to clean rugs. random asshole thought the rug cleaners weren't coming so he paid a second rug cleaning service to clean the rugs. then the regular rug cleaners came and cleaned the rug again. then random asshole tries to bill the shop for a needless rug cleaning that he ordered himself"
asciilifeform: nubbins`: this clearly comes next!111
asciilifeform: nubbins`: txid in pm. but this is sad.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: A bit watery as is the 13th tradition
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 01:55:06; nubbins`: til mp owns an ipad
asciilifeform: ty nubbins`
asciilifeform: nubbins`: for the crate.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i need the quote
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 23:10:34; ben_vouspes: nubbins`: and until bitcoin accounting standards include "these are the coins i am reporting on my balance sheet" this best case/worst case ambiguity will remain.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne> nubbins`: tbf while using the company wallet << there is no such thing as "the company wallet".
mircea_popescu: hanbot nubbins` is just doing his trademark low hanging fruit thing, "what's the lowest effort thing i could possibly do to maintain the pretense i'm doing something". that's his coping mechanism with life, it "worked pretty well" or whatever, it's what he knows, it's what he does. there's a whole stack of these idiots running around like pointless chickens, i dunno that much need be explained.
ben_vouspes: nubbins`: and until bitcoin accounting standards include "these are the coins i am reporting on my balance sheet" this best case/worst case ambiguity will remain. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 19:16:32; PeterL: and it is what, 10 lines if you don't count nubbins` ? that does not seem very lengthy
hanbot: so mircea_popescu do you suppose these people were hacked or something, ie some kinda inept Chinese-PR? even without nubbins` meltdown, you have PeterL, the ex-mildmannered professional chemist with a family, going http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2016#1427105 like a five year old suddenly, what the fuck is this?! ☝︎
asciilifeform: also nubbins` iirc someone else wanted some
asciilifeform: nubbins`: no worries, i will send it to you again when i get home.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: l0l, meanwhile send my an addr plox, i have been away from home.
asciilifeform: but i do recommend to nubbins` , to take a breather
solrodar: !rate nubbins` 0 +1 is making some valid points / -1 is being a complete dick about it
asciilifeform: i like nubbins` .
assbot: You rated user nubbins` on 24-Apr-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: pogoplug tester for therealbitcoin.
asciilifeform: !rated nubbins`
nubbins`: !v assbot:nubbins`.rate.danielpbarron.-10:9cad03701ab6bdc18d16905aafdb5fb5438ae5f7bd07a5cfdf0a756bdf9cdff3
davout: nubbins`: and I'm out of popcorn!
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for nubbins` from -1 to -3 with note: Suffers from the misguided notion that bitcoin companies are subject to the same rules as fiat
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.nubbins`.-3:d427bdf36173205cad1ccd6b5631df015cf4de72d9b7d150d0a03d7ed949655a
assbot: You rated user nubbins` on 30-Jun-2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: for the purpose of turning the spam nozzle two clicks towards the off position, and in the interest of discovering whether a lord can be silenced or not.
danielpbarron: !rated nubbins`
davout: nubbins`: i think you made some valid points, but this is not one of them
asciilifeform: so what is astonishing, nubbins` ?
asciilifeform: from the point of view of nubbins`
williamdunne: nubbins`: tbf while using the company wallet might be a bad habit, I don't think its an issue in itself, although reading through the logs it seems everything has gone to shit
asciilifeform: nubbins`: did you miss the part where i point out that ~all of MY coin is just as 'mpex'y
davout: nubbins`: i fail to see how (b) implies (c), I can perfectly have an account on my own exchange, can't I?
danielpbarron: and more irritated in your persistence nubbins`
solrodar: nubbins`: I was also paid directly from the same mpex address for this work: http://trilema.com/2015/open-callgraph-for-therealbitcoin-in-svg-format/
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 12:58:05; nubbins`: asciilifeform i thought it was fairly obvious that MP had been divesting since he lost his shirt w/ MPOE?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: fwiw pretty much all of my own coin would appear as 'mpex funds' per your analysis.
asciilifeform: nubbins` what's that
PeterL: and it is what, 10 lines if you don't count nubbins` ? that does not seem very lengthy ☟︎
PeterL: mircea_popescu I am talking with nubbins`, I guess you have him on ignore still?
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>nubbins`: do you think it would have made a difference to me, if i had been paid $12k ? <<< i'm not saying you should have taken the same amount of $$ for running s.nsa as i should have for a dozen hours' work.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: do you think it would have made a difference to me, if i had been paid $12k ?