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mjr_: either way, i don't want to withdraw cash just BTC
fancypants: ask her i don't know
fancypants: i don't know namworld but if I tell her me keyed i get 5
burnside: Ukto, I'm it will. I'm not sure how much, but the assets that don't have asic plans are going to get kind of ugly
mircea_popescu: imsaguy sure. i don't even think it'll hit 30 tbh.
DeadWeasel: I don't think bitcoin needs 'aggressive expansion'.
pigeons: looks like colored coins is your best bet for that, but i still don't think the bitcoin blockchain is the best place
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's any requirement for collectivism. in fact, the main seductive guile of btc to me is how prettily it completely decouples success from any sort of collective action whatsoever.
maximian: looks like messages are being wrapped in HTML, which I don't recall happening before
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone's going through mtgox by now lol
mjrIII: i don't want to take any usd out, just bitcoins
mjrIII: but one question, how do you clear the options trades? if I have the option to buy at $20 USD, don't I have to send mpex/broker USD...how can you do this through mpex? hold on i will read the faq again
assbot: I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
jborkl: Wait, I don't see the point of what he is doing. If you need to exchange there is GOX and if someone needs a loan they just go scam off the lending forum right?
mircea_popescu: i don't think he knows what he's doing.
dub: I don't think he's in the US
smickles: i don't hold that against them tho
smickles: don't look at me, i just leveraged long
burnside: I think we've come full circle: [15:00] <burnside> Ukto, just so we're clear. Anytime you post something that is incorrect, wrong, or misleading, I'm going to post a follow up with the truth. If that bothers you, I'm sorry, but it has to be done. If you don't want to be called a liar, then don't say definitively that something is true when it is not.
burnside: that may be, but I don't think so. I haven't made anything up about BitFunder and stated it as fact.
burnside: I don't say anything about bid depth or order depth on the market.
Namworld: yeah. Orderbook is true only for the asset you're currently looking at... I don't see the problem with bids on other assets disappearing upon filling that orderbook
burnside: I get that you don't like it.
burnside: Ukto, just so we're clear. Anytime you post something that is incorrect, wrong, or misleading, I'm going to post a follow up with the truth. If that bothers you, I'm sorry, but it has to be done. If you don't want to be called a liar, then don't say definitively that something is true when it is not.
mircea_popescu: they should be pretty straightforward, i have no idea why people don't use them a lot more.
burnside: well, one of the key things I don't want are the ponzi kind of things to take off, so tot volume on those just ends up being a promotion...
burnside: yeah, one of the reasons I don't like it much.
burnside: I still don't like it much, but it's better than it was
burnside: jurov, yeah, I do. I don't have a pr person to set ppl straight like MP, gotta do it myself. :(
DeadWeasel: seems like the best way to get us ignorant folk into the game. but maybe ignorant folk in the asset game is a bad thing. i don't know.
dust-otc: I admit that it is possible that Avalon/BFL are scams, especially BFL, but I don't think it is likely
mircea_popescu: i don't like the having to keep track of private beds
dust-otc: I don't like the variable odds
mircea_popescu: i don't see that any of that pertains to credit derivatives tho.
awkorama: mircea_popescu: I already kind of did, is there anything that you don't understand from the conversation that followed my initial question ?
awkorama: meaning, if I lend someone 100BTC today and tommorow I don't feel like having such big exposure to him anymore, I can just insure some part of that debt
DeadWeasel: i loathe things I don't understand. Credit Default Swaps are one of those things (there are many).
awkorama: and I don't know what the difference would be, trading CDS's on public corporation (e.g. IBM) or on S.DICE.. same thing really
smickles: i don't think so, i had to use XXX
smickles: oh don't get me wrong, it's a good 2 cents, and I knew it before you said it
mircea_popescu: i don't get this tho, why get 3 on this tick and 3 on the next tick
smickles: and the tucson police are awesome, I don't hardly ever see them, so i think there arn't many of them 'per capita'.
jcpham: i don't mean to be a dick, i really don't
mircea_popescu: but i don't recall which
smickles: mircea_popescu: i've never done that sort of thing, the mac machine i have access too is too old and depreciated, and the windows macine i have access to is annoyingly slow and I don't want to use it.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder not afaik. but i still don't see it's an idea :p
mircea_popescu: o don't tell me i fucked up the interests
mircea_popescu: who don't i know ?
mircea_popescu: as i always say, options mm-ing is the only business in the world where if you don't have customers you're depressed and if you do have them you're worried.
mircea_popescu: i don't think he trades.
mircea_popescu: what i don't understand is : were you underwater till dec ?
jurov: pls point me to the funny line of yours? i don't see any
mircea_popescu: i don't understand all the other kids managing their in house programming staff to do anything and everything.
Namworld: I don't know about small ones
Namworld: I don't think it will end on "max pain"
deadweasek: don't laugh, i'm learning
mircea_popescu: i don't how how i'd sell a small merchant on taking btc. it makes no business sense at all.
mircea_popescu: i srsly don't understand ppl trying to push bitcoin for retail.
pigeons: I also don't see
pigeons: so what happened to matthew_'s "CREATE" asset? I don't see it on btct.co. Moderators nixed it?
mircea_popescu: course i don't thinkl it's underwater atm
mircea_popescu: i don't think it is
Namworld: Assuming I don't have good/bad streaks
jcpham: i don't play well with others
Namworld: So I suppose I don't regret the IPO.
Namworld: Actually I don't even really try. My threads tend to be dramaless.
Namworld: I don't see why it would go on. Still people betting large sums
mircea_popescu: Re: customer deposts: I can't give you guys coins that I don't have, but I will likely be paying users out of pocket for this in a manner that is affordable. The way the site was set up before, apparently, advertisers were not allowed to withdrawal at all. I want to change things like this to allow that sort of functionality but I am not going to be able to do that especially if you guys try to all withdrawal at once
Namworld: I don't see why not MPEx
mircea_popescu: german isn't quite the unbridgeable cultural and linguistic gap like chinese is, so i don't imagine it'd make so much sense
FabianB: (i don't even have an account, only using coinbr)
mircea_popescu: i don't have an account. and besides, i'd prefer ppl from teh community
dub: (sure I've hit this problem before but I don't have access to txn history at the moment
jurov: i don't want to argue about it. just that i found the whole philosophy of placing pitfalls without a good reason just cause this is free country ... er.. lacking
dub: jurov: if a shop wants to make it very dangerous to go in and buy something, while its at odds with having customers, I don't have a problem with it
mircea_popescu: pigeons i don't feel particularly criticised.
Korbman: BFL pulled the same empty case stunt, and I don't really care that it's empty to begin with. It's just there to try and appease some of the people looking for pics
pigeons: Now I withdrew from mtgox a long time ago \ Don't you see how late they're reactin' \ They only come and they come when they wanna
mircea_popescu: i don't even remember ;/
mircea_popescu: but the bounced cheque comparison is possibly valuable. i don't imagine anyone with a bounced cheque failed to argue he made a mistake
pizzaman1337: I don't want this whole thing to crash again
mircea_popescu: bullshit "claimant is always right and mp is annoying and rich" judgements i don't need a court for, they're a dime a dozen.
mircea_popescu: normally i would have loved to say yes, but under the circumstances i don't see myself signing.
Namworld: I don't know. Who's in the rota? How do I start anything?
jcpham: but i don't like the winner/loser description
mircea_popescu: but i squarely don't see how anyone would ever consider responding to a case, ever.
jurov: mircea i don't understand one thing. why you can't just set a hefty fee for resolving mistakes?
mircea_popescu: and i don't push dead sells.
mircea_popescu: if we don't believe either of those it's a dead sell, no matter how hard i push it
dub: I don;t understand how it went from trying to help the guy to rota
dub: mircea_popescu: I don't understand how the rota could change that, its your policy
jcpham: i mean, I don't like the format myself
mod6: i really thought the court was a great idea, actually. now i just see that we don't have the foresight/legal wisdom to carry it out
jurov: i don't know 'merica history, dunno how many people were actually violently killed there
jurov: i don't see how the argument relates.. it was not like something completely vital was removed during the '89 revolution
jurov: don't know if it's true but i heard in romania even central heating equipment was stolen in some places
Bugpowder: i don't remember
jurov: thestringpuller, sry i usually don't respond to summons at 04:29 CET
assbot: I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
mircea_popescu: 0 seats tho, i don't imagine they expected that.