asciilifeform: i notice a tendency among #b-a folks to dwell on 'convince folks to leave gravity well.' well, guess what, i was convinced 15+ yrs ago, before ever met you lot. and fat lot of good it did
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> stepping out of the idiotology << what does this consist of in practice ?
asciilifeform: decimation: for this, i don't need the train. live there.
asciilifeform: most pedestrians, at most times, are able to stay out of under the bus.
asciilifeform: about as rare as pedestrians run over by bus
asciilifeform: actually it comes from observable ground. i can walk for an hour right now and end in a place from which would have even chances of coming back.
asciilifeform: most folks i encounter in usa are elementarily concerned with cannibals
asciilifeform: imho this deserves a little elaboration, if there is 'space in this margin'
asciilifeform: nah they're just interested in earthly life past next tuesday
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164495 << no one actually asks 'what is the alternative to state.' what they are really asking is 'what, in your cosmography, is to be the means whereby i get fed, roofed, and far away from bloodthirsty cannibals like before ?' and if the answer is 'you don't, fuck you, biodiesel' don't expect a 'thank you' from the interlocutor☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: same reason why a winblows box. 'it's what they had in the shop'
asciilifeform: imagine, a calculator with a boot time!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the -89 in production for the past 7 or so years is a steaming pile of shit
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: may i suggest a change in magicks ? have a stern talk with your amulet supplier.
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: how did you come to the notion that a closed turd of a platform such as 'raspberry' is a good starting point for learning programming ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: lifted cc #s are so routine as to be an automatic writeoff for the bank, unless it was an outlandishly posh cc
asciilifeform: it is - at miniumum - a mountain of paperwork, dragging on for years
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i have not personally scammed in this particular way, but watched colleagues deal with the fallout of 'xxx bought a house in your name'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this is a grave misconception
asciilifeform: hence also the utter lack of meaningful asymmetric crypto in bank cards, etc.
asciilifeform: ultimately usg 'department of plenty' ~really~ wants money to get borrowed. whether you in particular like to borrow money or not. if some 'helpful' nigerian can do it in your name, so much the better from their pov.☟︎
asciilifeform: from the pov of the chumps, the more sinister aspect, as always, is the non-cryptographic concept of identity used in nato reich, where folks can actually impersonate you if they know a handful of basic biographical facts☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Shortly thereafter, officers who had been working undercover to catch citizens attempting to self-serve, swarmed in to arrest the mostly nude man but not before Mapes took down 3 of the 6 officers by himself.'☟︎
asciilifeform: i've wondered what kept various floodgates of shit, hypothesized in fiction of the past, shut. e.g., 'rent-free' flats with walls covered in stomach-churning blinking advertisements 24/7, pensions in return for forehead tatoos of 'coca cola', etc.
asciilifeform: they only store a few thou. of sequence
asciilifeform: machine will index for usg db, not for implantation, lol
asciilifeform: again, the proposition is that there exists 'small change wizardry' which would find a place in a coke machine.
asciilifeform: i wondered, often, if most 'coke' drinkers simply amortized the lost coins, mentally
asciilifeform: by all rights the machines ought to have disappeared by now
asciilifeform: even though occasionally it eats the coin
asciilifeform: sorta like most folks are happy to use 'coke' machines
asciilifeform: i.e. the secrets are sufficiently cheap (not of cosmic significance)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only way he might consider it is if it were a ~bounded~ negative
asciilifeform: i must point out that i have sat on both sides of this (entirely absent) bench. both in search of secrets, ~and~ sitting on a small stash of 0days that will be buried with me☟︎
asciilifeform: must be so impeccable that it does not visibly diminish from a single dissatisfied dragon - any more than planet earth visibly loses gravitational pull from a rocket launched to outer space
asciilifeform: on account of the impeccable reputation of the wizard who built it ?