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mircea_popescu: that... didn't come out right.
trinque: no reason there can't also be amenities aside the vault.
trinque: I don't ever let keys touch an internet connected box
mircea_popescu: this one actually got killed by 98% alcohol flood. book couldn't crush it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can't wait for 'pressurewashercontrol!111' advocates.
asciilifeform: don't bother, trinque , i'ma have to amend the thing later anyway
asciilifeform: 'death ain't instructive, mutilation is instructive' (tm)(r) al 'uncle al' schwarz
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of which, gotta wonder why mr.100kusdwiretopinoy hero didn't use the magic of fossil fuel
mircea_popescu: well, at least don't point phuctor.com to it.
asciilifeform: nazis iirc almost made up their minds to build 'ideal' ( iirc 3 metres even ) rail gauge, but didn't live nearly long enuff.
asciilifeform: i wouldn't disagree if thread were re ~using~. but re calculating speed ?!
asciilifeform: trinque: i won't recommend to take current ffa and put in battlefield . but proposed to calculate a bandwidth assuming current degree of ughslow
trinque: simultaneously signaling "this is a prototype, will sever your limbs and fuck your wife" and "pls to use" aren't you?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't clear to me for what a phone needs a server
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't mind the dood who hacked off rsa from koch pgp and made a server that just passed encrypted comms. that's it.
mircea_popescu: i don't comprehend what the "seizing of server" did for a pgp phone service.
mircea_popescu: i remember very clearly who i am, and for very good reasons can't recall that schmuck whatever his name was.
mircea_popescu: and the fact that conclaves of idiots and imbeciles, however you label them, wired and wikipedia and etcetera won't gush about how "mp is famous about writing the definitive work on "bazaar" style development" is simply an argument here, and no further consideration.
mircea_popescu: evidently the principal value of engineer school is to teach the veal where he hasn't the fucking liberty to tinker -- which is ALMOST EVERYWHERE.
mircea_popescu: so they didn't have queues where they grew up ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i just can't grasp wtf is going on in the rakim skulls.
asciilifeform: wait that wasn't what was meant by 'events thread' ??
mircea_popescu: i am vaguely amazed they don't have a "special" thread to handle what x does anyway, ie kbd buffering./
mircea_popescu: which is ~safe, because the os doesn't need help anyway.
mircea_popescu: "a software engineer is the person solving a problem you didn't know you had in a manner you don't understand."
mircea_popescu: "an architect is someone who wasn't man enough to get an engineering degree, but also not gay enough to go into fashion design."
mircea_popescu: also there's no "global warming" happening in orcistan, and also pedophiles didn't suddely become interested in highschoolers.
mircea_popescu: the brits are pretty lulzy with their statist hallucinations aren't they.
spyked: mircea_popescu, re comment, had no idea this happened. I'll admit I haven't followed him (digested a few, such as the "ma fut in ea de ploaie" piece), so will review.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 02:03 mircea_popescu: i confess i tried to introduce `tickmarks into my process as such, but it ends up ~looking~ fucking retarded. i'm not even know if it just looks that way but isn't, or actually is. huge inertia against it though.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 05:01 mircea_popescu: "when my wife saw how many bottles of wine i bought for new year's, she bid me take them to the bathroom and dump them down the drain. i did as she said, because the wife is that person one shares with all life's happiness and unhappines. and sadness. and misfortune. and catastrophe. and all other disasters that wouldn't have happened had one not married."
mircea_popescu: "when my wife saw how many bottles of wine i bought for new year's, she bid me take them to the bathroom and dump them down the drain. i did as she said, because the wife is that person one shares with all life's happiness and unhappines. and sadness. and misfortune. and catastrophe. and all other disasters that wouldn't have happened had one not married." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: something happened between the 1980s and the 2010s didn't it.
BingoBoingo: AHA, and it doesn't help that sportball season overlaps the calendar with sportspuck season.
mircea_popescu suspects the "sports" entertainment franchises won't weather the anti-pantsuit strom any better than dnc did.
BingoBoingo: But this isn't Pence pretending to know to ape after you leaving. This is Pence being the ape following ordinary sportball watching Trump voters leaving.
BingoBoingo: Oh, the sportsball players didn't stand for the song of country before game in protest of "Police r mean to us black folk" as they had been for the last couple weeks. Mike Pence went to game and left before it started.
mircea_popescu: dude didn't do the "proper" ustard gymnastics or what was it ?
mircea_popescu: "One has to marvel at the wide acceptance of our existing punctuation marks and the sociology of their acceptance." << hm. naggum doesn't actually have the ability to understand things he didn't set himself deliberately to work at understanding, does he ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 15:49 mircea_popescu: (because of reasons discussed in http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-ideal-social-systems-reprint/ socialisms can't have categorical terms, defined in the normal manner, but must always include the ethical color of all words in the words. so "movement" becomes either provocation (bad) or progres (good) and so following for everything, stalin's cup is named by a different cupword than hitler's self-same identical cup)
mircea_popescu: because if i don't have the liberty to overload an url i can find no incentive to ever tickmark.
asciilifeform: and would need a 'year 0' where old logs before time T dun get parsed by tagfinder
mircea_popescu: however, as a chat anchoring convention i could actually get myself to do it, as that's 99% of what i wish i could do and currently can't, frustrates me once a week with some regularity.
mircea_popescu: i confess i tried to introduce `tickmarks into my process as such, but it ends up ~looking~ fucking retarded. i'm not even know if it just looks that way but isn't, or actually is. huge inertia against it though. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1723072 << mul is not add, can't do this, the wider register costs you nonlinearly moar time ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 20:43 apeloyee: not if it needs 8x more temp space << and karatsuba totally doesn't.
apeloyee: not if it needs 8x more temp space << and karatsuba totally doesn't. ☟︎
apeloyee: as usual, if primitives don't leak- this won't leak anything but the small primes. this is obvious. or are we doing associativity proof in peano arithmetic or other hair-shirt arcana (c)
apeloyee: pack p1, p2, ... pn so it doesn't take much more space, than the product thereof.
asciilifeform: and doesn't even stand a chance of fitting in fpga.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 21:48 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721485 << alternatively, can *construct* numbers which don't have very small factors. pick a nonzero remainder mod 2, mod 3, ... mod largest-prime-fit-in-your-primorial and find what number of primorial is congruent to it using chinese remainder theorem
asciilifeform: (i.e. you still win if you take 500x the cpu cycles, so long as you don't get cache-evicted)
apeloyee: the fact that i don't need the batch aspect for anything, for starters << so don't.
asciilifeform: the fact that i don't need the batch aspect for anything, for starters
asciilifeform: but hypothetically it may even be possible to ffaize bernstein's tree. or even to do it in such a way that doesn't wipe out the cpu winning from it. and even possibly to prove that it works and doesn't leak bits and doesn't let composites through once in a while.
asciilifeform: ^ to rephrase, we don't actually know if hard problems exist as a hard law of nature.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i don't actually see how 'test for a week' is crackpottery when speaking about a key that is intended to stand up for 50 years ( or longer )
apeloyee: doesn't run in geological (e.g. saxena) time << if you have faith in generalized riemann hypothesis and correctness of work on deterministic miller test - you have it. I don't, but running test for a week is imo greater crackpottery than believing in that.
asciilifeform: i'm not aware of a fully deterministic test that doesn't run in geological (e.g. saxena) time
mircea_popescu: apeloyee wasn't it exactly r-m restricted to first 10 primes or such ?
asciilifeform: i can't think of why to do any such thing
mircea_popescu: which i assume we won't be doing ?
mircea_popescu: depends how you run RM, doesn't it.
mircea_popescu: but we don't have to start low. and we don't really want to, either.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i don't see what is wrong with standard modexp
apeloyee: each round of miller-rabin is mostly a modexp which makes some tests on the intermediate results. so I don't see how you can avoid a different version of modexp
asciilifeform: it doesn't mean that we are forced to BRANCH on it.
asciilifeform: rejecting rng result that doesn't pass the gcd sieve -- leaks nothing
mircea_popescu: i don't see what the problem is, practically. so you leak ... how many times you had to try to get a prime ?
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to me exactly how
apeloyee: so top-half-multiplier isn't a moving part?
apeloyee: I mean, W_Mul doesn't do karatsuba
danielpbarron: why is the deposit operation a 2-part thing? couldn't it just encrypt an address to my key with the amount to send?
trinque: isn't reflected until I actually credit the account
mircea_popescu: i don't think such a thing as randfomly polarized female wave ever existed or ever could exist.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for some reason i can't help but think of the old lul with chinese on footstools synchronously jumping
mircea_popescu: the important point for romania was that gorby wasn't going to deliver all the oil romania had contracted (and paid for). so ceausescu went to iran ; where he got ~40mn barrels with a further option, to be paid in romanian agricultural machinery.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole meeting went in that vein, ceausescu pointed out to soviet troops still at praga, gorby was liek "oh, that is a bilateral matter" "da, stiu, este un acord bilateral incheiat dupa ocuparea cehoslovaciei" (yea, i know... post-occupation bilateral). then gorby says they can't agree in this matter and ceausescu agrees with him.
mircea_popescu: (this isn't even false, classical case of "sickly old pope")
mircea_popescu: "nu-i adevarat (that's not true), romania nu a iesti din aceasta problema (romania didn't exit the matter), romania nu a intrat in cehoslovacia (it never entered) asa ca nu avea de unde sa iasa (had not what to exit)"
mircea_popescu: guy replied "romania exited nothing, romania didn't go in, so it had not what to exit."
mircea_popescu: and he also wasn't impressed with gorbachev;s verbiage as to "disarmament", seeing how romania was spending about 3% of pib on arms in the 85-90 5year plan, whereas ussr had never went under 30% yet.
mircea_popescu: (because of reasons discussed in http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-ideal-social-systems-reprint/ socialisms can't have categorical terms, defined in the normal manner, but must always include the ethical color of all words in the words. so "movement" becomes either provocation (bad) or progres (good) and so following for everything, stalin's cup is named by a different cupword than hitler's self-same identical cup) ☟︎
asciilifeform: gorby wasn't even 60 and already chicken
mircea_popescu: ating in most homes) a list of easements, the chief buttress of which being an extra 100 lei allowed to pregnant mothers (about 1 dollar in black market rates of the time). then the people were dismissed, and they started to leave, but for some entirely to this day unknown reason they were called back. except, they DIDNT go back in order, which means the politruks didn't know who's who.
mircea_popescu: that'd be the point now wouldn't it.
spyked: anyway, I have much of Scheme in head. I'm looking at tinyscheme mostly to figure out what "subset of r5rs" they've implemented. though I'm expecting tinyscheme subset isn't necessarily the same as tmsr-needed subset.
mircea_popescu: assistence went "you don't remember esr ?" and i went "what would i remember him for ?" and they went "is this a bit ?"
mircea_popescu: that 94 thing isn't anywhere.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so you had a specific ip, which used to work, but now they changed it and instead of failing they self-advertise ?
spyked: wasn't, but wrote about "big brother" before it was cool, neh?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-30#1718769 <-- afaik ubb ran a "digitalization" program for library. but they prolly won't make those public, eh? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if looking for 4096 bit prime wouldn't the correct approach be to take 4094 bits of rng and glue 1 on either end ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 01:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722429 << your chances of generating a random int that is also prime at that sort of length aren't so great.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722429 << your chances of generating a random int that is also prime at that sort of length aren't so great. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-07 21:48 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721485 << alternatively, can *construct* numbers which don't have very small factors. pick a nonzero remainder mod 2, mod 3, ... mod largest-prime-fit-in-your-primorial and find what number of primorial is congruent to it using chinese remainder theorem
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722400 << bernstein's gcd method is neither here nor there, i certainly don't need anything of the kind in ffa, and quite likely it fundamentally does not ffaize ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722397 << i don't see anything that only wants ~lower~ half... whatcha talking about ☝︎
apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721485 << alternatively, can *construct* numbers which don't have very small factors. pick a nonzero remainder mod 2, mod 3, ... mod largest-prime-fit-in-your-primorial and find what number of primorial is congruent to it using chinese remainder theorem ☝︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: the interesting imho discovery is that heathen bignumtrons don't win much (or even any!) speed by normalizing the ints being added/subtracted ☟︎