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mircea_popescu: i bet you right now
there's
thousands of depressed dudes in ugly
tshirts scattered all over silicon valley who would call a hooker if only a) half hour weren't
the shortest quanta available and b)
they were petrified
they've got no way
to amuse a girl for a WHOLE half hour, even if she were slightly retarded.\
Framedragger: you may have just described japan's "comfort boy/girl" / "girlfriend experience" service offerings (mixed with
their "hourly billing" airport sleeping-capsules)
mircea_popescu: then you win and your 40 minute lunch break is almost over, everyone's very happy and can go on with
their life.
mircea_popescu: ideally
the way
this goes, you call
the agency, girl shows up, you spend
ten minutes going
through legal red
tape / reading paperwork boilerplate / filling consent forms whatever.
then you pump her a little,
there's various gizmos and gadgets measuring
things,
then you play a little board game on
the basis of
the measurements for say 20 minutes or so.
mircea_popescu: but it occurs
to me cs weenie oriented hookers
totally should have a per-second fee scheme.
Framedragger: just realised
that NFS is nigh-unusable for very-fixed-cost "just
tell me how much it'll cost" company/project budgets, lol
Framedragger: well, i recall asciilifeform's "nearlyfreespeech" hosting provider which boasts are "very honest" resource cost scheme, something
to
the degree of seconds, with loyalty (depending on
total resource usage) discounts being applied every second (or minute,
too) :D but
that can be a bit childish.
Framedragger: i was
thinking, minute / hour / day (with discounts at each level), which is less coarse in
terms of "jumps"
mircea_popescu: there's
three degrees of magnitude between
the day and
the minute. is
that your granularity ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i mean, when you're
thinking of spinning up
those mirrors, you (i now suppose)
think in
terms of months/weeks, not days or hours or minutes, hm. yeah, i see.
Framedragger: the latter may only make business sense at some degree of scale, however (unless
the per-minute rate is very high...)
Framedragger: re. per minute, i guess i should reach out
to consult first eh -
this was borne from a solipsistic "me as a customer" consideration: e.g. i want
to
test out some
trb feature across multiple different instances, i need good i/o and memory; monthly costs would not be
trivial (for
the purpose at hand), so i wish
to be charged on smaller
timescales.
Framedragger: again, yes i understand, but really depends on application/purpose. being able
to assign IPs from different c blocks is (eventually) desirable, but may be
too steep in
the beginning.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the "different ips" in
the sense of, "same box, same c block" is somewhat naive.
they're not
that different.
mircea_popescu: not entirely sure why you want
to charge per minute necessarily.
Framedragger: (or, becomes cost-effective if users commit
to more extended periods of
time; i suppose
the
thing would have
to be flexible re. latter, anyway. i may want
to spin something up for
testing purposes just for
the evening; or, i may want
the
thing for months+ (with expectation for a discount.))
Framedragger: unless of course one finds a provider which can provision physical boxes in a matter of minutes programatically, but
the whole
thing would
then be a bit like a reseller-for-bitcoin, no?
Framedragger: it would, however, require having more
than one physical box at-the-ready. which is fine and how providers work anyway, but
the matter becomes cost-effective only at some degree of scale,
then.
Framedragger: but i can certainly understand
the separate-machine constraint for mirroring etc.
Framedragger: well, for purposes other
than mirroring (CDN'y purposes), it could be useful. e.g. when i had
to spin up 13 vps instances at once, i only cared
that
they had separate (dedicated) resources and IPs
Framedragger: (costs could almost-equalise at scale, but until
then, it'd be more costly i would
think.)
a111: Logged on 2017-05-02 15:50 mircea_popescu: btw,
that separate means ~separate~. it's ok
to advertise a max you can supply, 3 or 15 or w/e it is.
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-02#1650908 << i assume
that here you meant "separate physically", even
though
the context was a discussion about vps?
there could of course be a knob (separate instances, or separate instances on different boxen;
the latter attracts a higher cost).
☝︎ mats: (referencing next-gen fritz convo from earlier
this morning)
mats: lenovo used it
to persist, iirc
mats: get
the right bytes in memory and windows will execute arbitrary PE file
a111: Logged on 2015-08-12 21:41 ascii_field: 'nstead, a file called "wpbbin.exe" was placed in C:\windows\system32 and executed.
That
turns out
to be a method Microsoft introduced with Windows 8
to allow
the BIOS
to execute code on boot up (!?!) called "Windows Platform Binary
Table (WPBT)". I can find almost NOTHING about
this anywhere on
the internet except a single document on Microsoft's website (link
to
the Google Cache since it's a .docx file) and in a random
shinohai: Perhaps her owner got
tired of dragging her out from under
the bed and removed
the frame
to ensure compliance.
trinque: put a sheet on your bed god, and get it off
the floor
mircea_popescu: btw,
that separate means ~separate~. it's ok
to advertise a max you can supply, 3 or 15 or w/e it is.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if you're going
to actually build uci, go right ahead. all intel servers are at your disposal.
Framedragger: interested
to hear what mircea_popescu
thinks re latter,
tho ^
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: well, while i of course agree in general, i don't agree in particular: i'd certainly find it useful
to be able
to supply a "curl phuctor stats every 24h, serve here" instruction. or, you know, "submit key", or "comments", or anything else of
the sorts.
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no. no fucking payload.
the web has no business being in state.
mircea_popescu: with deedbot payments imminent, it may well
take off even
Framedragger: so in
this case it'd just be static content hosting, which is minimal on cpu etc.;
there could of course also be an option of supplying a (signed, of course) payload, but less clear on definite application.
mircea_popescu: and
this is a bona fide economically useful service, mind you, it'd entirely cut
the whole "cloud" business at
the knees, seeing how 99% of all
the actual value
they deliver is ~this, execpt at 100x
the financial and 10`000x
the administrative cost.
mircea_popescu: there's really no need for domain names generally, and certainly no actual utility in
this application.
Framedragger: easiest way of doing
this if it were
to return a non-dns-poisoned ip, as in,
trilema.com/stuff1.tgz => 45.56.78.91/stuff1/
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so
the url would contain what, static contents for web serving?
mircea_popescu: then we could just maintain static versions of
trilema, qntra and anything else
tar-gz'd and ready
to go.
Framedragger: (also, perhaps a more gradual way of "easing into"
tmsr-isp?)
shinohai: I'd certainly be more likely
to use irc shell from a
tmsr Lord
than rando docker service ran by SV weirdos
mircea_popescu: could I do something like !$mirror <url> 5 so as
to get it
to spin up 5 separate instances, load url, unpack it and serve ?
☟︎ Framedragger: there is a question just how much would people use it. of course, best market research is
testing
the market itself...
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yes, something like
that. same !!v principle. user gets ssh login. billed (if at all) by
the minute, or
the likes.
mircea_popescu: well it was sort-of in
the logs, at least in general, but it's still a very cool idea very much needed. scriba-based provisioning or what ?
Framedragger not
too far off from idea of offering at-irc-fingertips vps
to l1. maybe someone is having similar idea,
tho? ;)
shinohai: Probably around
the
time
the whoreticulture blog gets stood up.
shinohai: yup using hashbang for now,
though plans are
to move
the whole shebang (pun intended) at some point
this year.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-05-02 14:44:25: <shinohai> weird dunno why
that posted
twice
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: only in
the form of air being in
the middle between antenna and shitty access point in cafe, in
this case heh.
Framedragger: yesyes, "not in wot" is central nail in coffin against any of
these, sure. (nevertheless could be useful for certain isolated efforts, e.g. ip space scanning and so on.)
Framedragger: yesyes, "not in wot" is central nail in coffin against any of
these, sure. (nevertheless could be useful for certain isolated efforts, e.g. ip space scanning and so on.)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-29 12:43 mircea_popescu: aaand in not-really-news : avalance in retezat (romanian mountain) killed a few kids
that were european and world record holders in mountain-related items. ro "our democracy" media railing about how
the
trainer (also father of one of
the victims) "forced his
two daughters
to break record after record while
training in EXTREME CONDITIONS!!!1 ONLY
TO SATISFY HIS OWN EGOTISM!!1111"
mircea_popescu: then 15 years later
they're having "a conversation" on ~~facebook~~ about
things (
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-29#1649833 ) and expect
to be
taken seriously, and for
their INCREDIBLY offensive
tone
to pass as socially acceptable.
the romanians of facebook, disgusting crawlies
that came out of
the eggs laid by
the "romanians on ms office" repugnant creepies.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: to
them it seemed natural
to get a govt job and explore what
the computer "lets
them" do
mircea_popescu: it started once "romanian language" became a
thing,
they started hawking keyboards for it and "localized ms office" and bullshit.
mircea_popescu: this whole "lets you" verbiage about computers, i remember when it started,
too.
mircea_popescu: sure as fuck no one in 2009 was willing
to buy
the 2009 crap.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-01 18:41 mircea_popescu: count for 100% just as soon as
they stop
telling
themselves
the 0% story
to get
to
the slop like
the rest of
the pigs.
Framedragger: b-b-but
they have a list of approved ports and
they would only use
them approved ports!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but just make it incompatible with internet. nic / "router" / whatever item which a) sprays out numbers just like current but b) does all
the alf magic routing + encryption + etc.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile got
this noob discovered eulora, is about
to explode inwardly.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger only if
the firewall isn't a slut for
the same punters.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: can also attempt
to block specific ports with *external* firewall
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the "not on cisco equipment" part == "incompatible nic".