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Framedragger: why it's bad*
Framedragger: (still no particular examples why it's bad given, btw)
Framedragger: i mean, a large part of the paper is exposition. rsa, dht (relevant to how onion services work), etc.; so, it's not *interesting*. but it's not in any particular way shitty. i wouldn't have read it otherwise and certainly do not see it as very valuable.
Framedragger: btw the "which onion services targeted by those malicious relays" part of the paper is quite nice (from initial glance).
Framedragger: diana_coman: i haven't read the method section yet but so far so good.
Framedragger: wasn't a rhetorical question. but i certainly do not wish to waste tmsr's cpu cycles, so no need to answer, either
Framedragger: diana_coman: why does it need defending?
Framedragger quietly swears
Framedragger seen that post, amusing
Framedragger: :D
Framedragger: for sure :)
Framedragger: (i certainly do not have any intention to troll.)
Framedragger: there is no cognitive dissonance in my mind. i know those peeps personally and also simultaneously do not observe any plagiarism. they used things from those 2012 and 2016 projects.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: what original thing did they take from phuctor, may i ask? ☟︎
Framedragger: did you send this already mircea_popescu lol
Framedragger: aha.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: the one with whatshisname, the german?
Framedragger: if they ignore then - i'll donate to bitcoin foundation a bit for generating noise.
Framedragger: well, why don't i (unless someone else already planned to do it first?) write to those folks on that ML, informing of phuctor, to see their response? maybe futile at this point and useless, but at least a more constructive reaction.
Framedragger: the fact that djb knows and ignores does indeed speak ill of him, i agree.
Framedragger: granted, phuctor gets crawled *more* / *a lot* (i presume, from what you had been telling). so i understand the incredulity of "you haven't heard?!!"
Framedragger: well, my relay descriptor search service also got crawled loads, but the fact that people didn't know about it wasn't because people ignored it; but just that meat-people (not bots) weren't aware of it.
Framedragger: aha right.
Framedragger: top hit for every pgp keyid? that's pretty neat.
Framedragger: and you absolutely cannot fathom the humble thought that they simply didn't hear about phuctor?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ok i've read it; so your chief issue is that they didn't mention phuctor in-between the initial 2012 study and the 2016 years correct? i mean, bear with me, i'm not baiting.
Framedragger: ah! ty.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: wait you must mean some other page than https://nymity.ch/anomalous-tor-keys/ because para 3 on there starts with "What does our work mean for Tor users?"
Framedragger: ok, reading.
Framedragger: okay i think i know how trinque feels when being side-dragged into non sequiturs.
Framedragger: what particular paragraph ticked you off on https://nymity.ch/anomalous-tor-keys/ asciilifeform?
Framedragger: so, phuctor didn't originate the idea, is all.
Framedragger: ^
Framedragger: possible weaknesses of rsa keys and the idea to run a "your relay key is weak" service as part of tor metrics infrastructure (tor metrics itself is an old project, ca. 2011)
Framedragger: not mailing list, but in person in munich, paris, etc. (granted, "taking my word for it" is not exactly a great argument.)
Framedragger: how about "was discussed in developer meetings *long ago*" (the counter will be "you didn't tell us then so FU", so w/e i guess.)
Framedragger knows phf and asn from that list personally and knows for certain that they didn't 'plagiarize' from phuctor. but whatever, if phuctor not cited, it's plagiarism because independent thought not possible, etc.
Framedragger: phf: ah, ty!
Framedragger blows dust off old twitter bot account and uses some of that gas mask canister
Framedragger: goddamnit, no email no nothing, the satire (http://n-gate.com/about/) is just too complete for its own good ☟︎
Framedragger: one can appreciate the whatever-order derivative, tho / the writing style, yknow
Framedragger: incidentally did eat canonical eng breakfast this morning; i should re-evaluate my life
Framedragger: after this wine.
Framedragger: ok will drop an email to the chap if can find an address.
Framedragger: oh god n-gate <-> qntra pipeline is so obvious in retrospect, why did nobody think of this!1
Framedragger: well, old 'dev' account for twitter app (don't ask); doesn't count
Framedragger: (un)fortunately not
Framedragger: (n-gate.com has HN update for the last week of march and it's a riot, http://n-gate.com/)
Framedragger: ty
Framedragger: hm, true.
Framedragger: (would be interested to hear someone deny it)
Framedragger: a port totally counts. however, as to your general point, no.
Framedragger: ^ (i mean the gnu port)
Framedragger: didn't rms implement emacs by ~himself? or that doesn't count?
Framedragger: i understand, i just got scared like a little girl
Framedragger: trinque: not my reason, was satire (bad satire)
Framedragger: suresure!
Framedragger: yeah that was my conclusion. so, guess will do. mk.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-04#1637034 << i was planning to use pthreads for a prototype thingie for tmsr :( "EVERYTHING IS BAD" ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger: i didn't find it (did search).
Framedragger: ^ re above, last noob note, so [citing HN so grain of salt, etc.] this one gene (Cas9) has two functions: locating a dna sequence matching given chunk of rna, and cutting dna at that location. this substr() and insert_at_location().. together with some other genes it probably makes the whole thing turing complete. (~known, but particular demonstrations are interesting.) (also probably in the logs heh.)
Framedragger: fascinating (also their invoice and employment examples are very convincing)
Framedragger: CRISPR*
Framedragger: wait no CRISP is the *immune response* to shit like ^. something like "distributed redundant backups of parts of dna" (repeated sequences). so nvm, 2deep4me
Framedragger: (just tried to come up with an actual definition of CRISPR, too deep, failed, so not even sure if q makes sense)
Framedragger bbl
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-31#1635314 << pretty fascinating; does this fall under the category of CRISPR (complete amateur question)? as in, "shit inserted in your dna by $parasite long ago, now you depend on it" ☝︎
Framedragger: i'm sure the results would match opinions of teh experts as usual
Framedragger: yeah, definitely.
Framedragger: (maybe earlier)
Framedragger: btw will see if i can set up complete re-scan in ~june (should be easier this time, ~all of logic was scripted and recorded)
Framedragger: dope'y. i can't see the keyboard through all this dope smoke
Framedragger: too much coffee for me
Framedragger: and i meant CompanionCube not mircea_popescu
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: shit i meant `!$ ssh` not getarchive, i'm forgetting myself lol.
Framedragger: (sorry meant, can *also* do this as privmsg)
Framedragger: CompanionCube: you can use `!$ getarchive some_ip some_other_ip . . .` to get banners from the time of scan. (can do this as privmsg, `/msg scriba help`)
Framedragger moving self meat
Framedragger: oh that actually werks
Framedragger: !!up adlai
Framedragger: "Note: Both RNG-TW (Analogue) modules must be present and in working order during power-up, or FUCKGOATS will remain in a SAD state (steady RED lamp.) When performing basic tests, start with a powered FUCKGOATS, with BOTH RNG-TW (Analogue) modules installed. "
Framedragger: ah if they do - sorry. this was from me reading online doc (http://nosuchlabs.com/), "3)"
Framedragger: by 'fool' you mean 'as intended' :)
Framedragger: were both of them present during power-up? i think the idea is to remove them once it's powered up. then it'd be half duty cycle SAD. (haven't tested myself yet tho)
Framedragger: isn't that by design?
Framedragger: fuck me
Framedragger: i envy the weather
Framedragger: ooh israel, cool
Framedragger: hah good to hear :p
Framedragger: right :)
Framedragger: "disowning" etc.
Framedragger: absolutely, question is if there's any middle ground, i mean, less extreme approaches (extreme by my standards of course)
Framedragger: when compared, it *is* a clear KPI cf. "uni performance" etc. heh.
Framedragger: anyway it's a fucking trend. 'professors' jacking off on fucktrumpianism in "unis"
Framedragger: he seems to have perfected his processes :p
Framedragger: i can ask but i can also defer this honourable query to mr. shinohai (i dont know her personally)
Framedragger: http://i.imgur.com/VS7GiEm.jpg
Framedragger: i think i see what you mean. i'm not convinced he's actually trying to teach just that, but fair enough.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ^ (but i don't have a point to prove, just that i didn't see much to blame there, however i could just be my usual naive)
Framedragger: or you mean that yet somehow his general spiel still mirrors some general faulty 'american' structure (difficult to prove/disprove this) ☟︎