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asciilifeform: http://yves.gallot.pagesperso-orange.fr/src appears to be the only surviver.
mircea_popescu: (notice how this cycle goes ? i recall a 1990s large font craze also.)
mircea_popescu: i'm sure they didn't even have proper large text.
mircea_popescu: heh. the web progresses, alf. what do you want all those old websites for.
asciilifeform: in other olds, http://fatphil.org/maths/AKS << observe : almost all of the links -- dead.
mircea_popescu: anyway, but the misnotaiton : it's not /a/ it's /ə/. dr/ə/kula.
mircea_popescu: now the ~kid~, was named draculea /drəkulea/. this is a diminutive, exactly in the way "little boots" worked in latin. the term'd denote exactly that, little dragon-guy spawn.
mircea_popescu: if anyone's curious, the "drakula" thing is phonetic misnotation. the guy's father, vlad, was surnamed dracul /drakul/. drac means devil in modern romanian, but it also meant dragon at the time (1400s). dracul is articled form, -ul is how you make "the x" from "an x". the man got the surname because of german decoration he wore, which to locals looked like dragon.
ben_vulpes: the female lykkins get impregnated by the male lykkins and then spend all their time bitching about how his salary isnt enough for her and her spawns needs instead of you know buckling down and cooking, cleaning, making the shelves and other fixtures herself like any wife worth having.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/things-that-happened-to-sam-chapter-5-true-to-his-word/ << Trilema - Things That Happened To Sam. Chapter 5 - True to his word
a111: Logged on 2014-02-17 15:20 asciilifeform: try this one on for size then. 'once drakula proclaimed: let it be known throughout all of his lands, that all who are old, or invalid, or diseased, or poor, shall come to him. and so came to him an untold multitude of beggars and vagabonds, awaiting generous alms. he ordered them all brought to a house for this purpose built, and had food and wine brought to them. they feasted amidst great merriment. drakula t
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-17#511308 << the tepes tale in question, from earlier. ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the amusing thing being that these are in the vast majority male. for all the black eyes women get for free.
ben_vulpes: we call these "lykkins" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: he even has time to "human knowledge on quora"
ben_vulpes: worm relegated to the bowels of amazon because never ranked over three, and never at risk of firing because never ranked at two is happy to munch turds forever.
ben_vulpes: not giving the practice any sort of legs to stand on, merely pointing out the american plastic version of another correct republican thing.
mircea_popescu: and the simile is, "if your lungs and liver and etcetera worked the way you code, you'd be just as dead as this guy."
mircea_popescu: this is what education is all about : putting the inept's ineptitude in terms he can understand. simile is the fundamental device thereof.
mircea_popescu: don't like the guy's driving, shoot his kid. sure, "kid is innocent", "that was uncalled for" bla bla. point fucking remains -- now he has to make another one, which takes no driving. at driving -- he sucks, so he can't appreciate what that means. putatively at other thing he doesn't suck nearly as much, so he CAN appreciate.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the most important thing being that they must be ~shot~. it's not that you lose "standing in the profession you were befouling". you must lose unrelated things.
mircea_popescu: the romans specifically and explicitly despised men that thought.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the romans didn't think. the romans did.
mircea_popescu: it works for the same reason ratios don't work in prisons etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but the usual retellings don't include the EMH reference, there's no explanation as to why it worked.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-16 23:53 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fave story re: tepes: 'Некогда же обедоваше под трупием мертвых человек, иже на колие саженых, множество бо округ стола его; он же среди их ядяше и тем услажашеся. Слуга же его, иже пред ним ясти ставляше, смраду оного не могии тер
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-16#509574 << thread ☝︎
mircea_popescu: efficient market hypothesis -- he correctly judged that by the time music is being played and dancing is going on, the faux beggars had pushed out the real ones.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc i translated that one here
mircea_popescu: vlad tepes famously offered lavish banquet for the city poor (which at the time meant, men crippled so they can not work, are reduced to begging). he gave them ~ two hours, after which burned down the thing / guards cut down anyone trying to get out.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: they attempt to emulate this in safe-space style with "stack rankings"
asciilifeform not familiar with the primary source
asciilifeform: but perhaps this too was disinfo
asciilifeform: iirc this roman custom is somewhat misunderstood by modern folx -- they actually thought they were fixing a rusted ~luck~ by offing the ~unlucky~
mircea_popescu: but the best thing that you could do as google manager is, have swat teams round up all the employees in a field somewhere, randomly shoot 10% and tell the rest the next round of shooting is in six weeks, they'd better impress.
asciilifeform: though, further twist -- the ~original~ elbrus was a spiffy superscalar machine that actually beat usa state of the art at the time (cdc)
mircea_popescu: right. stalin had the right idea -- some remnants even visible under putin.
asciilifeform: believe or not, the copies were of 2 types, the ones made by smart folx who gave a shit -- were in many cases equals, or even actual improvements (e.g. su single-chip pdp) . the others... were done by same folx who pilfer ru budget today
mircea_popescu: their copy has all the virtues of a xerox of a statue.
mircea_popescu: they tried to copy what they thought the great america was doing.
asciilifeform: pre-90s -- another matter; runs on magnetic cores, transistors the size of your thumb, barbaric but it'll likely still work when archaeologists dig it up
asciilifeform: ( post-su ru Official tagline, 'government without ideology', is hence quite sad joke )
asciilifeform: is like asking water to flow uphill.
asciilifeform: asking folx to do honest work without 1) hard ideology + 2) public impalements ,
mircea_popescu: stalin had the right idea.,
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt : putin recently proclaimed another $maxint grantolade tranche for 'proper clean ru os and iron' . i dare to predict that it will evaporate without a trace just like the last N times . )
mircea_popescu: you recall, the elbrus salesman
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i still can't fucking believe the ivan ivanov thing.
mircea_popescu: then stalin gave amnesty for people willing to fight zee germanz, and a bunch went. when they were picked up later for going back to the life... well... there were some philosophical disagreements inside.
mircea_popescu: vory/suka, for the record, is this ancient dispute in ru penal system, whereby it is verboten for respectable criminal to help the government. this going about as far as the jews, dudes won't push a fucking button.
asciilifeform: ( or how else would they have any clue re 'seekrit meeting' )
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 14:59 mircea_popescu: o btw, re the whole "fbi wars" of trumpreich : http://trilema.com/2013/the-cold-war-experts-over-here-are-having-a-ball-these-days/ (strictly for expert interest)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657356 << imho the most lulzy subtext is the tacit admission by washpo et al that wh is bugged ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-08-29 19:40 phf: but if the argument is really reduced to воры/суки then guys above are idiots, because иван иванычи and have all the intelligentsia deficiencies
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-29#1255852 <<< phf 's verbiage endures time well. ☝︎
asciilifeform: at one time, long, long ago, a respectable fella.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 14:50 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657315 << there's very little interest to even ask who the fuck this peter norvig is. i was going to the first time it popped up five lines up, but then i was, eh, whatever. i guess ima ask since it got discussed a little. who the fuck is peter norvig ?
mircea_popescu: items halfway, trying to lie but not very good at it, a la http://trilema.com/2015/sooo-fetlife-is-butthurt/ are pretty much the entirety of pasture.
mircea_popescu: ie, the us krill is laughably vulnerable while tiny, sometimes transitions into outrageously mendacious through growing larger.
ben_vulpes: probably tastes great with react native
mircea_popescu: the way scum reproduction works is that when scum's tiny it does dumb shit like this and nobody really cares about it ; then as it grows up it moves to stealing mysql and naming it something else, like facebook.
ben_vulpes: 'saas' thing that...does user related stuff? i have no idea.
ben_vulpes: i only have the vaguest idea from #saltminesocial
ben_vulpes: in other reddits and silicon valley developer fingertraps https://medium.com/@contact_16315/firebase-costs-increased-by-7-000-81dc0a27271d sure seems to imply that you can ruin the day of 'startups' using 'firebase' by hammering their service with poorly authenticated requests
mircea_popescu: 2013, right ? PUBLISHED. online. "nobody knows". oh, who's mp, that guy who pre-leaked the original cable leak by like a day and forced guardian & friends to release ??? NEVER HEARD OF HIM!!11
mircea_popescu: o btw, re the whole "fbi wars" of trumpreich : http://trilema.com/2013/the-cold-war-experts-over-here-are-having-a-ball-these-days/ (strictly for expert interest) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 14:39 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657300 << heh. and the roman "empire" outsourcing to barbarians creates big barbarians and imperial shell game. see also the lulzy story of how the palace mayor became king of paris etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657331 << oh, and speaking of this, i wonder why i want someone in wot to do isp etc. I WONDER! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so they installed all the trampolines and tubes and whatnot, and guess what -- the retards spawned by the dumbest generation of autists in history LOVED IT!!11 omaigerd it's literally like being six all over again! there's even stylisized changing station on the wall to remind us of how mom "had to" keep us in diapers till we went to school! OMG LOVE!!!
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 14:05 phf: also doesn't leverage the competitive advantage of google. massive datasets, crowdsourced solutions (hire all the developers, hope something works!1)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657329 << no you don't understand, they have really cool offices! google guy was one day walking down the mall to pick up an office, was really fascinated by mcdonalds kid section, said HELLO SIR I WANT HIRE OFFICE HERE PLEASE. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: story of kid who gave up on dating because he finally discovered masturbation, all hail Saint Elliot Rodgers, the martyr of his people.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 14:03 phf: there's an earlier talk he made, maybe 10 years ago, where he basically said "we used to do all these analytical algorithms to AI, but turns out you don't need none of that, because we have massive datasets instead."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657324 << funnily mirror of the "We used to go out and talk to women, which was interesting, but it turns out you don't need to do all that, as there's all these... um... uh... massive...errr... data..sets, yeah, that's right, massive datasets to explore!" ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 13:53 phf: i doubt there's going to be one, the talk was made at lispnyc, but is otherwise very thin on lisp. ("LISP had exploratory programming, and we need exploratory programming, therefore, you lispers, go and ugh do things!1") i doubt there's any interest to transcribe it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657315 << there's very little interest to even ask who the fuck this peter norvig is. i was going to the first time it popped up five lines up, but then i was, eh, whatever. i guess ima ask since it got discussed a little. who the fuck is peter norvig ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: they built star trek, what. victory of socialism!
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 13:43 phf: i guess that's aligned with the "we moved from SICP to python, because programming is no longer about writing code, but discovering libraries" that's periodically discussed in logs
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657309 << "i fucking love science" aka "there's so much out there to discover" aka "paradise is moving through space in your livingroom with the big tv and tables everywhere". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 13:37 diana_coman: I saw this thing in action; and brighter kids effectively perking up when they finally find someone sane to laugh at such idiocy, call it by its name and actually help them understand something; in eternal words "it actually MAKES SENSE now!!"
mircea_popescu: then they show up at the office and expect it to be "the office", and why should people have them do work, just make an offer already.
mircea_popescu: but they're not learning anything, which is to say, as a self-transformative activity. they're "learning" in the sense of "raising awareness" about themselves, which is to say : they expect, or rather act as if they rightfully expected, that the whole world changes so as to accomodate them as they are. that's the whole story of this "learning".
mircea_popescu: it fucking didn't, which is the fucking point. ~IT~ didn't.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 13:28 phf: “What was it like to self-learn programming before Stack Overflow? (2016) (quora.com)”
mircea_popescu: or, for that matter the lulzy story of how us "coalition" works out in practice. "gee, i wonder what happens if we have no soldiers and keep paying arabs to soldier for us...."
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 07:50 BingoBoingo: Anyways, the morality tale is thus: Big American companies outsourcing to small Chinese upstarts creates Big Chinese companies and small American shell games
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657300 << heh. and the roman "empire" outsourcing to barbarians creates big barbarians and imperial shell game. see also the lulzy story of how the palace mayor became king of paris etc. ☝︎☟︎
phf: also doesn't leverage the competitive advantage of google. massive datasets, crowdsourced solutions (hire all the developers, hope something works!1) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-18 22:29 asciilifeform: '... what was once dedication is replaced by greed and sometimes sheer need as the motivation to enter the field.'
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 13:47 diana_coman: it certainly fits it perfectly, yes; and overall it also fits the more general pattern: the moment everyone gets to do it, one can tell that "it" is a. only a pale shadow of itself, b. going to shit full-speed ahead anyway
asciilifeform: attempting to understand how process works is for terrorists, aha
phf: there's an earlier talk he made, maybe 10 years ago, where he basically said "we used to do all these analytical algorithms to AI, but turns out you don't need none of that, because we have massive datasets instead." ☟︎
diana_coman: he got... googled and has no more lisp to offer :|
phf: well, he also wrote an ai textbook with exemplary lisp
asciilifeform: phf: same norvig who wrote ai textbook with 0 lisp
diana_coman: well, 45 minutes to watch the video seem more like 45 minutes wasted; tbh the title reference doesn't bode well either
phf: i doubt there's going to be one, the talk was made at lispnyc, but is otherwise very thin on lisp. ("LISP had exploratory programming, and we need exploratory programming, therefore, you lispers, go and ugh do things!1") i doubt there's any interest to transcribe it. ☟︎
phf: reading, like some kind of terrorist
diana_coman: ugh, I can't seem to find a transcript of the thing
phf: ...where he made a point that "computer science" has become an empirical science, done through experimentation, and "look it up on stack overflow" is part of the process. i thought he was joking