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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last i heard, they set up a 'parallel whitehouse taiwan' to 'report' on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's what the 'trusted computing' / 'fritz chip' / etc. thing was about. and that it was about this, was obvious in 1995.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu no longer satisfied with the historic 'there's no taint damn you all to hell' solution to subj ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do you propose to force miners to include a particular tx ?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 18:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the important point there is : the whole fake bitcoin address (3something) is supposed to be "useful" in practice. this utility is supposed to be proven by idiotic "challenges" like this one put up by peter todd. EXCEPT the output does not actually SIGN the transaction claiming the bounty.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as in, 'fuck you, i won't relay this, your addr ends with my auschwitz tatoo number' ?)
asciilifeform: i am at a loss as to how this problem is solvable in general case. aside from mircea_popescu's answer to my 'panopticon' thread, 'don't get caught in a jar!'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is inevitable fact of life, boxes live and die, wires are cut, new ones -- laid, etc
asciilifeform: (see mircea_popescu's earlier point re imposing cooperation on castles)
asciilifeform: what we afaik don't have is 'incentive for node-keeping' algo (though mircea_popescu's partially solves this, by requiring miners to have healthy nodes)
asciilifeform: to outline what we have so far : we've a 'must have all blocks' mining algo, from mircea_popescu ; we have a O(1)-verify-of-any-and-all-tx-and-blocks algo from asciilifeform (today) ; and we also now have a 'limited cpu cost for tx' algo.
asciilifeform: trinque, mircea_popescu : the reason for my 'want-block' gedankenexperiment, is the 'high vacuum' line of thought from earlier. because any way you cut it, an unexpiring tx is a kind of cheque for unlimited number of cpu cycles from the rest of the world
trinque: mircea_popescu: ah yes I do. I'll need that pgpdump guy, store what's extracted from the key
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to defang gpg, must prevent it from writing to ANYWHERE on disk other than stdout
trinque: mircea_popescu: right, register in this case would write a pubkey somewhere once, and always use that as the nick:key association
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha. expiring cheques, etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-25 17:04 mircea_popescu: trinque dja think deedbot should have an ad interim patch before tmsr pgp is released to take care of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617236 ?
asciilifeform: (the gavin-killing device from mircea_popescu's 'missile crisis' piece)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the unfortunate bit is that having global consensused state (blocks) at all, already does this
asciilifeform: trinque, mircea_popescu : to my naked eye, looks like you could get best of both world, by making 'want-block' optional
a111: Logged on 2017-02-25 19:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: andresen h. paid for it for a reason!11
asciilifeform: which is why i won't even take a position on this , and leave it up to folx who actually worked this scenario in real life , e.g. mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: under the don't-need-antecedent-hash -- yes, you could
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: andresen h. paid for it for a reason!11 ☟︎
asciilifeform: scheme is a quite obvious one. but i bet if there is anyone whom this shoe pinches, it'll be mircea_popescu , he will tell us where.
asciilifeform: and transform the problem into 'how do we keep enemy from jamming the low level transport', which is solved by signed-packets (or mircea_popescu's variant, or similar.)
asciilifeform: (alternatively, could require that a tx include a 'i want to live in block N' value at birth! and if it doesn't get into N, it is invalid for all time. but this would have serious engineering tradeoff, 'canned' txen as discussed in old mircea_popescu article would be impossible.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what were 'slave reads' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought you had a cachetron in there? or does every www load actually result in db reads
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/FEYhA/?raw=true << thus far on dulap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and 'blockchain-based principles' !!
shinohai: Interesting trilema article mircea_popescu ... twitter actually locked my account twice this week over the "auto" stuff, which they refer to as suspicious account activity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al!!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, 1st link in your piece is borked
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho the smart thing to do with bad olde gpg is to use it as demonstrated in my original vtron -- sans keyring.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 19:12 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o hey, consider this situation : 1. i know your fp, so i make fake key for that fp. 2. i know trinque 's fp, so i make fake key for that fp too. 3. i know you keep a signed copy of trinque's key on your keyring ; so : 4. i proceed to sign trinque's fake key with your fake key and 5. pretend to be a noob and give you my gpg pubkey.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-25 01:32 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the southern poverty law center (mildly famous lefty oppression tools from the 60s) lists "kek" as a dangerous nazy paraphenalia.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-25 01:32 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the southern poverty law center (mildly famous lefty oppression tools from the 60s) lists "kek" as a dangerous nazy paraphenalia.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/be73x/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al:
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~80-90% of time spent in ConnectBlock
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at some point, when i find out how to get gprof to run with musltronic/static binary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you're in wrong function
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: shortly...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's typical example: block 454521 on dulap : AddToBlockIndex: ~90 sec: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles#1212 << 99.98% of this interval
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why wait
a111: Logged on 2017-02-15 16:08 mircea_popescu: myeah. things are pretty simple : either peace with russia and therefore war with china ; or else bickering with russia while china continues to fatten unmolested.
BingoBoingo: ty mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you track iff now?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But if they don't pull it all of the way out, then they just tore the suspending ligament and made it look bigger!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on dulap, zero instances in 84GB of log.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was on zoolag after <24 hrs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al :
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, shinohai , et al : anyone ever notice these : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/DfsKP/?raw=true << on a node nowhere near OOM condition, multiple GB free
a111: Logged on 2017-02-24 04:15 a111: Logged on 2016-03-03 17:24 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/3YZ2895.txt << preliminary crib sheet
a111: Logged on 2016-03-03 17:24 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/3YZ2895.txt << preliminary crib sheet ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's as braindamaged as northkr's linux distro. but seems like worked!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he would, if it were dilute / in dmso.
asciilifeform: lulzily enough, back in.. 2013..? mircea_popescu described how Serious Folx, incl. miners, already do this.
asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu the 'node as paid service' thing now can actually exist.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ONLY NOW verified 454403!
a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 15:52 mircea_popescu: we should prolly publish a kernel patch
veen: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611107 << beside, mircea_popescu said it first ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: holy fuck, 454403 14 minutes (and counting) on dulap; verified on zoolag in 15 seconds
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had half a dozen people here repeatedly build gpg-1.4.10 back in august, recall
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks like we have another '20 minute block'
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 19:28 mircea_popescu: how's that coming along ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not looking for an answer, it's a compliment on the his prolific output
asciilifeform: ok this is delicious, but i must briefly revisit upstack: mircea_popescu , mod6 , or anyone else in my l1 who wants to ssh+wire-peer with dulap: please gpggram a ssh rsa pubkey to me.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, mircea_popescu , https://archive.is/HIr9r << i think we have the answer to 'why did asciilifeform get 64kb of crapolade in the guise of ZIPs from archive.is in july of '16 ? '
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes , mod6 , shinohai , et al :
a111: Logged on 2017-02-22 07:26 mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a common thread going through the google go ai, attempts to "secure the banking system against risk", the surveillance state / internet of things / smart cars and so on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes but this does 0 for gpg fp.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 02:16 asciilifeform: btw does mircea_popescu know what would happen if a pgp key with his main key but new magical subkey were generated and posted to sks ?
asciilifeform: ditto mircea_popescu's, and everybody else.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-10 14:49 mircea_popescu: you are an idiot ; go away.
adlai: mircea_popescu: dafuq do you want
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they put on new set of hand muppet gloves, clitler et al.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'non-alt' is the old 'gop', the one that sets up 9/11s, invades iraq, etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 03:55 mircea_popescu: anyway, the point in case block we were discussing yest. i timed it at 22 minutes on "reasonable" amd.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu in re: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617048 , interestingly zoolag -- despite being an x86 comp the size of a tea saucer, and weighing ~400 gram -- has roughly 3x faster block verification (of given block) than dulap ! -- on account of ssd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu , ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000251.html
asciilifeform: oh mircea_popescu , ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al : the wires patch has a mistake, it fails to reconnect; please do not waste time to test it until fixed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might be interesting to extend my eatblock experiment to modern height
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: next patch is a blockverify timer.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you know moar, i'm all ears
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: block verification is ~an~ issue, world stops for 3-8 minutes when block candidate is being eaten. but is demonstrably not the cause of multi-hour blackhole.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 22:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i expect your node's problem is verification.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what means "state to petraeus" then?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-22 04:55 mircea_popescu: btw, trump actually gave state to petraeus, at least on the declarative front.
veen: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-22#1616772 << ben_vulpes i assume mircea_popescu doesn't mean secretary of state ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000250.html
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: so what's going to happen with tillerson?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-22 21:28 mircea_popescu: yes with phase. but your life will contain liquid most likely.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-22#1616940 << mircea_popescu doesn't, apparently, sweat..! ☝︎
veen: mircea_popescu: 'cc'?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: say, CCl4
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2015/youve-made-the-bed-enjoy-dying-in-it << thread was memorialized, apparently, on mircea_popescu's www
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to leave dulap as it is , to see how this change affects blackhole, but it does carry some of the 'trucks of britain' problem (as described by mircea_popescu article -- 'trucks over 5 tonnes will experimentally drive on left side of road first!11')
asciilifeform: had link to mircea_popescu in l0gz!