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trinque: well bush "got a sense of the man's soul" and now he's okay.
trinque: "israel can do no wrong" is a serious item of conversation around idiot evangelical dinner tables. ☟︎
phf: also in the last two years, as putin became a kind of presidential role model for the midwest, i think it also became a lot more acceptable to come out in support of countries that are not america, so america and its people are seen as having lost the way, etc. it went from "red scare" to "i wish putin was our president" (a phrase i've heard more than once even before the previous election cycle)
mircea_popescu: serems by far the likelier
asciilifeform: or possibly, alternate hypothesis : healthy boy wants to be in an army
phf: well, i've met a handful a American Boy types who were interested in fighting on behalf of israel and defending the christian faith (???) against muslims over the past years, but it's gotten to the point where this doesn't seem to be fringe position
phf: met some of those down south
asciilifeform: not long ago asciilifeform hit upon a www for nonj00z who want to join israeli army !
mircea_popescu: i want to believe.
asciilifeform: it's selinux when you're a cow and farmer does it ~to~ you; otherwise it's misadventure (if fails) and technology (when succeeds)
mircea_popescu: works about as well, too.
mircea_popescu: much like the temptation to selinux.
asciilifeform: hence the temptation to hotpatch the meat.
mircea_popescu: right. and the universe we're discussing for "change you can believe in" counts by the half million years to be generous.
asciilifeform: it's baked into the meat.
mircea_popescu: biology doesn't care that a millisecond ago you built an oil refinery for the first time.
mircea_popescu: no, see, because by now it's entirely baked in the culture.
asciilifeform: aaha. but the balanced picture of 'pharma wars' etc. is 'today very different costs'
mircea_popescu: more like 2.5 or so if you weigh the carcass fresh, as opposed to filleted.
asciilifeform: no but to put 'mega-energy-cost' in picture .
mircea_popescu: at thye time all this is relevantly going on, a sharpened stick goes on the open market for fifty two plain sticks.
mircea_popescu: and teh picture is pretty clear.
mircea_popescu: add to this the grandiose benefit of you know, i sit around all day while girls work their ass off at the gym three times a week, yet my ass is still firmer and i can lift them and throw them because hey, fuck you for hoping.
mircea_popescu: comes to a whole lotta bison.
mircea_popescu: and it's a significant cost, at that. the A grade baby is at birth three kilograms worth about 8 calories per gram, plus a metabolic average of about 650 calories a day over its forty week womb life.
mircea_popescu: things make perfect sense once one stops trying to lie about what they are.
trinque: puts the female behaviors in context. "I'm going to be parasitized as a matter of course, better fatten up, hide, etc"
mircea_popescu: and therefore, the female will want to be lied to prettily. because lied to she will be, and she knows this. there's no way to window dress the cost of sexuate reproduction into anything else. though they try.
mircea_popescu: as you've made this a biological necessity by your "sexuate" idea, it then follows that about half the population will enjoy the passive benefit of the other half being fucked over. as in, bars wouild be a lot fuller and service a lot crappier if women also crowded them.
trinque: the drugs are in that sense the same as the "I am a pony", both towards a feeling
mircea_popescu: and this is not ideology, but biology. if you have a sexuate species, then THEREFORE you will have a female (defined as, carrying the burden to term).
trinque: all the insanity around "identifying as" points directly to it. most folks *cannot* form an identity outside being told what they are. having been told incoherent nonsense, little wonder the starving creatures flail for control of the mechanism
mircea_popescu: in the end the question comes down to, do you feel like a man, or do you feel like a woman ? just don't lie to me or lie to me prettily ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes the whole thing revolves around the valuation of lying. for the people that judge lying as a primum malum, proper slavery is the more humane model. for the people who judge lying as the primum bonum, the us/su nonsense is the more humane model.
asciilifeform: lobbes: dr. mengele was a saint and humanitarian compared to the folx presently in the saddle, aha
lobbes starting to grok how bone-fide slavery is actually the 'more humane' model
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 15:27 mircea_popescu: and the whole story of "oh, 1800 style squalor and poverty and five points erradicated!!! great ourdemocracy progress!!!" is really just very caked on masking upon the base fact that "we redirected all resources away from fun, so that now there's nothing to do but wait to die a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670156
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670306 << amusingly, this is great for pharma-coin though; 1) sell the "ourdemocracy you-are-worth-it-and-can-do-anything" message, 2) create populace of people that end up 'depressed' and feeling 'unfulfilled' because they are fulfilling their natural role as non-human, but told otherwise, 3) extract $>sustenance in form of 'anti-depression' drugz ☝︎
phf: there's a faux butcher shop in georgetown that sells various eastern european meets at premium, but i doubt the quality. their salo is questionable. my mom is working on a project in ukrain at the moment, so she's been sending photos of vodka carafe & large slabs of salo
mircea_popescu: impossible to get outside of traditional transylvanian farm tho, in my exp
mircea_popescu: hey, in ro too, if you won't eat crap.
asciilifeform: pretty sure you need direct access to the pig to get salo in usa
phf: i think ashkenazim might've brought it to u.s. as "kasha", i.e. explicitly buckwheat porridge, rather than porridge in general
mircea_popescu: afaik casha was a very ... jewish retirement home thing in the us, limited to east coast.
phf: "baby you want me to cook you some GRECHKA!!1"
asciilifeform: afaik nobody in usa eats any such thing as манная каша
asciilifeform: phf: i had to teach pet to make it
phf: i cook it at the office from time to time, and every time i get "wtf" reactions, and not just from the infidels, but from eastern europeans too. slovenian (slovak?) girl at the office was very confused by it, what is it? how do you eat it? why do you eat it?
mircea_popescu: daffadil say !!up to it in a private message
mircea_popescu: takes a while to get to the bottom of it
daffadil: Ok.....many interesting features and I am enjoying being enfolded within them......
daffadil: +mircea_popescu so I don't need to do anything with that deedbot OTP message?
mircea_popescu: daffadil oh i misunderstood what you were asking. i gave deedbot an order, and to verify my identity it encrypted something to my key. that string in !!v
daffadil: Ok thanks.
mircea_popescu: you encrypt to a key. in this case yours.
daffadil: don't understand the "Get your OTP" message from deedbot, whose key encrypted it?
daffadil: Hehe, something like that ~~
shinohai: Any examples of thy art daffadil ?
daffadil: Currently learning the ropes and reading
mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, who wants to wire 2.5k for me ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes well, if girl attempts to make carrot cake with "All i got here are these potatoes" she gets in trouble.
asciilifeform: hey all i got here is this'ere light from 50 lightyears off..
mircea_popescu: sure it's possible, but i'm telling you, "how it looks" is a terrible heuristic.
asciilifeform: entirely possible that the man lives 'under the heel', like, e.g., saharov
mircea_popescu: trinque i guess it is at that.
mircea_popescu: from experience, that sort of thing is decided by the woman declaring, not by looks.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally reading the djb thing left asciilifeform with impression that $derp could also have been part of a 'cuck' scenario
mircea_popescu: it's even in seinfeld. "i'd have all this money and people would love me" george costanza daydreaming of philantrophy.
trinque: pretty common american 80s movie trope, right? "ends up liked! the end."
mircea_popescu: reason people write things is so others read the things back to them, huh.
asciilifeform: iirc most of this was on trilema already.
mircea_popescu: "oh, if i do this, people will have to like me!" wtf nonsense.
mircea_popescu: world makes perfect sense to me now.
asciilifeform: to this day
asciilifeform: same reason why the old slaves are lafonding them in the eye
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder they don't also urinate on the writhing cadaver.
mircea_popescu: well no fucking wonder they're stabbing them in the fucking eyes, jhesus
mircea_popescu: oh that's what it is.
asciilifeform: same reason they did the 'free the slaves' thing
mircea_popescu: seems that their answer to "my god, we built fucking korea, our kids would rather hang themselves than come back home and therer's absolutely nothing to buy" is to take in a retard for a cat.
asciilifeform: sooo, hypothesis here could be, that you dun need to be rockefeller to undergo this form of putrefaction: under the right conditions, 'middle class' derps also could.
mircea_popescu: obviously is. there is ONE WAY to do resource allocation, and if it's not used what you got is socialist rot.
asciilifeform: where the wealth a koschei sucks up during life, begins to splurt out
mircea_popescu: i thought it was entirely for "look in the mirror" narcisiac purposes.
asciilifeform: it isn't connected to a feedbacktron
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 14:44 mircea_popescu: dude what is with this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins
mircea_popescu: 3rd wave nazis and 6th wave feminists duke it out in the dream machine!
trinque: presumably of the 4chan.org/pol variety
trinque: that chick that made the psychedelic dog video claims to be a nazi.
trinque: bahaha, entirely the formula for the 4chan nazi thing. "this was the most transgressive thing I could find. no es un pais pobre!"
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if all these idiots saw a clockwork orange, and decided "yes, that is what i wish to do with my life! i wanna be THAT loser!"
mircea_popescu: remarkably how well it covers the "republic's allies" that aren't either of the republic or its allies.
mircea_popescu: mp's questionnaire is growing. "are you living in a retired low level us-politruk / inteligentsia zone ?" "do you live with some punk pet you picked off the street ?"
mircea_popescu: "can't have slavegirls like proper white males, on their knees naked, that'd be too... you know, like right, and proper. no, no, must invite random twink to rule the posh bullshit etcetera"
BingoBoingo: Well, wha can the daiper do in the trash can except complain the candy wrapper next to it is sticky
mircea_popescu: !!rate szabo -10 "you'll die as you lived, in a flash of the blade, a fucktard remembered by no-one..."
mircea_popescu: this is what they do instead of coming here. fucktards.
mircea_popescu: are these people LOOKING for a way to fuck up ?
mircea_popescu: dude what is with this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: "In addition, who invites a guy who had no job or family ties and whose only source of income was a mental disability stipend into your home? Nigel Walker, a gud boi who dindu nuffin, was essentially an adopted pet of the Szabo family and, in turn, he brutally stabbed the late Brian Szabo in the neck. Police found Szabo in a pool of his own blood in his posh West End neighborhood home. "