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asciilifeform: iirc the convo was approx : asciilifeform : it's ready, nao what should we call it mircea_popescu : how about FUCKGOATS asciilifeform : loox good, let's
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 04:14 mircea_popescu: didn't alfred wainwright invent nude fell walking ?
a111: Logged on 2015-11-11 04:55 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/205fc2394e3169753298a37dfdaf8032/tumblr_n71q0qKyOs1r59rt8o1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 21:15 ben_vulpes: porque no te gustas maduro?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 21:10 ben_vulpes: funny how deeply the actual people notionally represented by the soi disant speakers for the people hate said speakers
hanbot: ben_vulpes if they could mean for the people but not speak for them, then they'd have somethin' by george.
hanbot: fettiffany tenes que hacer uno, es siempre un buen idea. mientras tanto hay mucho aqui para leer, como la historia diaria http://btcbase.org/log/ , y por supuesto el blog de mircea_popescu. me imagine que el va a ser activo aqui mas tarde hoy.
fettiffany: ya le habia dicho a mircea_popescu que solia trabajar en un call center pero despidieron a un monton de personas incluyendome. asi que me encuentro nuevamente buscando empleo, y aun peor porque no me encuntro en mi pais.
danielpbarron: http://www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup << here's instructions on how to get a key
danielpbarron: fetlife chick for mircea_popescu
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 19:13 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: go ahead and invoice now is fine
deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.6076 << http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-18#358430
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 19:13 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: go ahead and invoice now is fine
BingoBoingo: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.6076 http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-5-18#358430
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 04:42 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815258 << phf's logotron handles it like a champ.
ben_vulpes: !!down douchebag_junior
deedbot: douchebag_junior may not $down Mircea_PopeSkew.
douchebag_junior: !!down Mircea_PopeSkew
deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.22286546 << May 2018 BB refuel ( 1800 )
asciilifeform: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.22286546 May 2018 BB refuel ( 1800 )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 00:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:50 mircea_popescu: mod6, you gotta sleep enough. it's of the same ilk as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815080 exactly. the hovel may seem livable ; but it is not.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815082 << i was able to find (after A LOT of expert searching, it is true) furnished apts conveniently located for all the girls ; didn't end up paying much of anything upfrtont either (they wanted a month's rent, i was paying quarterly anyway, so it sorta went away). gotta talk to "the people" (=dueno) though, "agencies" aren't so useful. but there's a 5% of the population that makes ends m
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:28 ben_vulpes: lobbes, and BingoBoingo while i'm at it since i want to get you on the same train, what kind of commission makes sense to you for flogging shared shells?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:51 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> logo! << as long as it costs ~0 i'm game :D
lobbes: I slapped together the following if you'd like to use: http://lobbesblog.com/static/pizarro_demo_logo1.png, http://lobbesblog.com/static/pizarro_demo2_logo2_w_sword.png >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815212 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 04:20 mircea_popescu: aand in other "shit that wasn't in the logs yet", 𐏃𐎧𐎠𐎶𐎴𐎡𐏁
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff , my terminal doesn't show this orcogram
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814596 << gave this a whirl, but press of trb's makefiles.vpatch says GnuPG failed to import key ".../wot/ben_vulpes.asc". ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, alright, works then.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a guess at what storage a 10 dollar/mo plan might be reasonably marketed at, informed by scrolling through a few pages of shared hosting offers and looking at a few in detail
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: could, but then also would lose the lulz where sad-rsa victims see their name in google outputs
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:16 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, phuctor is kinda deliberately designed to not be a "only us" item. so what can you do.
asciilifeform: upstack -- i'm inclined to agree with mircea_popescu , in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815209 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for thread-completeness, my other notions in re 'for subscribers of phuctor' were , in no particular order : earlier access to new pops (after queue is ready, conceivably give subscribers day, week, etc head start ) ; ability to download generated ~privkeys~ for Fully Phuctored mods , in various formats ; full-text search ; built-in converters ( your item, but it is on the for-everybody conveyor for a while nao )
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> logo! << as long as it costs ~0 i'm game :D ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive"
asciilifeform: mod6: lel, iirc mircea_popescu was in his 6+-piece, but i suspect that his is refrigerated, like cosmonaut's
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815092 << you didn't even give him a workorder yet (as you don't evne have a sales plan yet) and you want to add incentives to it ? kinda ass-backwards!
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mthreat was there too with some girlies neh ? << chetty too
asciilifeform: while we're on subj : mircea_popescu can you think of anything that would conceivably make sense in a 'private api' for paid subscribers, in phuctor ?
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes : maybe odd q, but do we have a pizarro logotype ? i'd like something in the vein of http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/snsa.jpg to put below same on phuctor www
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
asciilifeform: iirc there were : mircea_popescu , hanbot , mike_c , davout, asciilifeform , mod6 , ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he was !
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:05 mircea_popescu: !!rate mocky 2 remarkably mentally organized eulora noob.
mircea_popescu: well, so they'll fuck people's public_html for them, it's how "don;'t take over box plox" works.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed they do, it's how the ddosproofing thing works.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:37 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs? A substantial guarentee upfront (3-6 months rent) and then furnishing the apartment.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nfs ? they dun write html for you or anything of the kind, it's simply an ultraminimal hoster thing (somewhere between vps and plain unixhosting , hard to classify into 1 of the traditional categories)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, well, depends what they want. but basically.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 00:24 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814909 << one possible way out of the conundrum is to offer "website design" saas and not even allow box login to the customers.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:16 ben_vulpes: sure, but i'm talking about quality of existence here. own place to shit, own food prep area, not having to constantly piss on preferred chairs. it buys security for effects, and calm of mind that i think BingoBoingo underestimates (unless he is a very different animal from what i imagine)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:52 ben_vulpes: mod6: doesn't really make a difference to the books, a liability is a liability. it's going to show up on the balance sheet regardless.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:21 ben_vulpes: the active filtering i'd like to put in is either a regular set of eyeballs (BingoBoingo's, or the mentioned-tangentially sales guy to hire) on the "design" corners of these hosting forums to pm our ads for shells on the shared server to folks who are building websites directly
ben_vulpes: great, i mentioned hostingdiscussion.com , webhostingtalk.com, forums.hostsearch.com to you, also warriorforum.com from mircea_popescu's mentions once upon a time. i'll dig up some others as well.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I will start that, also inquire about setting up a corporation, and register accounts on the filter feeding forums so they can start getting some age.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> plus table, chairs, bed, cutlery, hot water heater? << Whiteboard
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole pizarro operation's << Sweet
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs? A substantial guarentee upfront (3-6 months rent) and then furnishing the apartment. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: am i crazy in trying to push for an apartment for you? << You aren't but the monthly expense of an apartment isn't so different from the hostel+cowork.
mod6: ben_vulpes, asciilifeform you guys ok with that?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> yeah in re the apartment, BingoBoingo you want to live in the dorms forever or why wasn't that in your ask << It's something I am flexible on.
mod6: ben_vulpes: help me out here.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: How would that be structured.
mod6: Would that work for ya BingoBoingo? ben_vulpes ? asciilifeform ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 18:24 mircea_popescu: you will sooner or later run into issues you need actual professional help with. just like the cold.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, the machine itself, hardware-wise, is incapable of multiuser. it leaks its memory via cache timings on 3 or 4 different layers ; it lacks its state via nic delays, it leaks like a sieve. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: can you elaborate on "time the box"? leaking of user passwords by timing sidechannel?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: guess ?! 'which of 1500 users , hey let me throw a dart ' ? lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's for sake of argument ignore other problems than 'whole box craps out' (i.e. particular users being hosed, by unknown party, with no recourse ) . how to determine which customer is culprit ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 17:55 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the very least, need a 680mm ( or at worst, 650mm ) 2u ( most economical bang/buck variant ) chassis with NO welded-in internal partitions
asciilifeform: if ben_vulpes or anybody else can think of a better pill -- asciilifeform is all ears.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, simplest solution is, periodic backups and not giving a shit. if it craps out reinstall.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is the reason why i even built the rc pilot cluster; because it is a (laborious, and expensive, but genuine) solution to $problem
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, what, they told you twas gonna be easy ? come up with something!!11
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it is possible to set up ftp properly .
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, yes.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the 'weeks' can mean 'minutes' in practice, if the planets align
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: look back to the thread where i gave the current shared-box scheme: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-22#317360
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i hate to add to already tall pile of puzzlers, but at some point we will have to seriously consider the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814695 item . ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, let me put it even sharper : you have a man who conquered a drinking habit in a position which regularily drives men to drink ; and he's complained about not having sane AA there what, twice ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 17:55 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the very least, need a 680mm ( or at worst, 650mm ) 2u ( most economical bang/buck variant ) chassis with NO welded-in internal partitions
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so we could say part of your problem here is idleness. << Indeed. Laying groundwork to start drinking webhosting ocean.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, understand that merely clear signs that management is aware of problems and working on them, and open communications are a larger morale boost than pretty much anything else. it's how folk manage to man pill boxes, which suck for any other criteria.
asciilifeform: really i advise ben_vulpes to get that chalkboard. quite srsly, i do not say this to make ben_vulpes cry, but because it is genuinely a win
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: recall, lobbes offered to work sales on commission
ben_vulpes: or a mircea_popescu fetlife-style automated PMer to do the outbound
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it is. i have neglected sales and putting BingoBoingo to work on that and conveying to him what he needs to know in order to do the shared hosting work that has until now landed on my plate. with the manual i published yesterday im now in a position to hand off new shared shell customers to him, and am looking at a list of hosting forums i put together for filtering over the past two days.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo will , i suspect , have all 8 hands full when the full-scale rockchiptron is brought online and tentants come/go regularly
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, why do you have an idle resource on the ground ? this is what management is, yes ? keeping the mills fed ?
BingoBoingo: In the past month, aside from asciilifeform's visit roughly and hour to and hour and a half a day on strictly pizzaro business, minus time awaiting instructions. For the couple weeks after the ben_vulpes visit there was a consecutive run of days well over 8 hours. The work has been incredibly bursty in its flavor.
mircea_popescu: seemed to me the way ben_vulpes was going was towards a yes/no type response. aanyways.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They asked me to put forward an idea. It isn't the best idea, but it one that makes the idea of continuing to stomach life in a country populated by a people I hate and who are culturally programmed to piss me off. I would like them to structure something they can afford instead of biting on this proposal.
mircea_popescu: saying "well, there's objective costs to $X, be it installing a rack or being in uy, these have to be paid" is one thing ; but seems you're discussing another thing, and how can you, i, ben_vulpes , anyone else transform "future" into "btc value" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, why do you suspect pizarro can pay something like that ? << The idea is that there is a path for pizarro to get revenue. If pizarro can´t afford something closer to that than the current arrangement, I suspect they can't afford to keep someone in Uruguay.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if we had any fab capacity to speak of, these'd be the priority items : 1) large homogeneous fpga 2) otp roms 3) 1+2 ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wasn't even thinking of asking for true antifuse sd card , considering that antifuse roms have been unavailable since early 1990s ( see prev thread re subj )