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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ha, i had nfi he still had any epaulettes or buttons to rip off
Mocky: fingers crossed maybe I get a job offer today
asciilifeform: i meant bach et al.
asciilifeform: 1 interesting maffs problem , is whether you can generate a sequence of witnesses that will tell troof of compositivity for ~any~ externally supplied N , up to given bitness. ( and as i understand this q is isomorphic to bach's generalized-riemann item that diana_coman dug up. )
asciilifeform: re verifications, observe the general pattern in ffaism: i expect any serious user to have a private battery of tests to verify that his, particular, ffa builds, actually conform to the declared behaviours.
asciilifeform: ( readers should also prepare themselves for following proof of why m-r worx, i'ma not simply cite the lit ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'ma detail this subj in the customary pedantic detail in ch16 article.
asciilifeform: i hate to disappoint mircea_popescu , but i'm all outta sheep for the haruspexy room, so cannot give odds lol
mircea_popescu: i'd like to lay a bet :D
asciilifeform: so far i've uncovered 0 that would reveal why box reset. but i expect before nightfall to find out, if iron is indeed misbehaving.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is entirely possible, i have not yet looked in detail.
asciilifeform: cpu temp 45.5C (out of 85 permitted), chipset 30.8 (75 permissible) (i'ma omit further reports on subj for nao, unless thing actually is found to melt)
asciilifeform: incidentally i was not aware that UY1 uses grub (grub2 no less). grub is fatwa'd on pizarro-owned iron. i'ma correct this omission in a scheduled maintenance after we cure the moar pressing issue in re uy1.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: soon as this is done, i'ma graph the machine temps/voltages.
BingoBoingo: I'm seeing sub 20ms pings to every box I've tried so far except UY1. UY1 is returned sub 40 ms pings
mod6: I don't doubt. That seems off for sure.
asciilifeform: i am seeing multi-second ssh keystroke delays.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am seeing much faster pings
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al : also i am getting multi-second ping latencies to pizarro (all boxen)
asciilifeform: after we get to the bottom of UY1 issue, i'ma make sure that all iron owned by pizarro has asciilifeform-baked kernel in place. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'ma have to rebuild kernel on UY1 today.
asciilifeform: update: aaand ben_vulpes (who is orig builder of UY1) didn't see it fit to build the k10temp kernel mod, so i can get cpu/chipset temps and ps voltages.
diana_coman: funnily enough it seems I even DID port over jurov's page too anyway, lolz; it was just the uy1 down thing
asciilifeform: update : uy1 is up, i have realtime log going from it.
mod6: And by 'eventually', I mean hours usually.
mod6: My one node I've got now, is still on that bad hardware as I haven't found a new home for it yet. Sometimes, if I just let it "figure itself out", it'll return eventually and be fine. I agree though, would be nice to get to a root cause of this by some form of testing. Hard to mimic the state, regardless.
mod6: mircea_popescu: I've only seen behaviour from trb like that when I've had some bad hardware. In particular a suspected bad SSD. I issue the 'getinfo' command and nothing, just hangs.
asciilifeform: i'ma cure the asinine grub keyboard thing.
BingoBoingo: I forgot to plug the ethernet back in
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hrm, i switch this off in my installs, but this box is a BingoBoingo creation.
BingoBoingo: Please deliver instructions in #pizarro as I don't know how much log troubleshooting is going to generate
asciilifeform: update : it aint hung, responds, but i have nfi how this thing ever auto-booted in the past -- the boot menu dun seem to have a timeout , wtf
mircea_popescu: that's nice and all, but meanwhile here i sit talking to people about absent sites yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : not a planned outage, at this point i strongly suspect iron issue
shinohai: ( I wrote initial post on Friday, minigame.bz wasn't responding then when I did post research - only thing I got was the logs subdomain)
mircea_popescu: but i mean no part of the site responds ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, neah, it's that part that I did not move over to the html server because it wasn't up to date really
shinohai: I tried cloning, simply times out ( was going to add additional post on subject )
mircea_popescu: should be in http://minigame.biz/jurov/Eulora-client.git i don't expect anyone deleted it
shinohai: While I'm here, did you guise remove http://minigame.bz/jurov/Eulora-client.git permanently? (Perhaps jurov has copy still hidden away somewhere, I was interested for archival purposes)
diana_coman: thanks! one of those days I'll get around to write-up the jam stuff for linking the lib with the client too ; at any rate, the linking seems sorted for now - it's Ada code for all the pieces that is missing
shinohai: I look forward to client updates, also found http://ossasepia.com/2019/01/12/compiling-ada-library-for-use-with-non-ada-main/ quite interesting btw.
diana_coman: bot is in dire need of proper logging and once the new protocol is in place I can see the client itself needing to log stuff
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886522 <<< Thanx, also will report to diana_coman if configuring out bullet has any negative consequences, so far everything renders correctly as far as I can tell. ☝︎
asciilifeform: aand i'ma apply the supplied algo.
mircea_popescu: phf pre-symbolics the "theorems" were "how do i computer" in general. those guys weren't playing around with custom fpga in their garage that they failed to sell. they were basically figuring out how to build a von neumann machine that can do things, which they did
asciilifeform: i've planted noad under gsm modem, for instance, surprisingly - worked
mircea_popescu: besides i have testing for this specific, "whyat happens with net interface unreliability", never found this particular issue
mircea_popescu: no, i know
mircea_popescu: i ~suspect~ but obviously have no way of proving that its netpipe flickered and it never recovered.
asciilifeform: unixtardation is an item i'd like to live to see an end put to, verily.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect anything useful could be had in a timeframe shorter than re-doing all of bitcoin. it's a large box etc.
mircea_popescu: here i sit and stare into the terminal, not knowing what to do. this happens absolutely never in my life, except when dealing with fucking computers.
asciilifeform: heh i have a whole www about these..
mircea_popescu: i'd like a computer where i didn't have this sort of problem. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this anger has led me to re-read ye olde http://trilema.com/2018/the-symbolics-discussion/ ; only to discover i'm ~still~ not satisfied
mircea_popescu: but what the FUCK can i do, run everything in debug, maybe 3-5-12 layers deep ?
asciilifeform: i assume mircea_popescu already checked that disk wasnt full
mircea_popescu: i weep not hjaving ran this particular instance in debug, so i can't see where it's looping, or wtf
mircea_popescu: in other arcana : i have here a copy of trb that has died a mysterious death on dec 31st. the process itself hasn't returned, ps aux lists it as expected, however the last time it touched any files was two weeks ago, nor does a call to getinfo ever return. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i happen to agree with the fellow, "partial order" (as in, the term of art) is specifically why not actually breaking anything.
mircea_popescu: i suppose.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, i'ma instrument the thing for realtime logging soon as i wake up ( about to turn in, and would rather not break things when half awake )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886726 << very happy to hear that mircea_popescu enjoyed reading. i've put a good bit of sweat in recent times into keeping these pieces short & edible. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Fans clean, all spin. Palpable air movement in and out of the chassis. Seals in tact on arrival, new seals deployed. KVM connected. I did not manage to find the internal log in the BIOS.
mircea_popescu: re http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ : leaving aside how annoying it is i can't select, and how it's the case trying to comment timesout : it seems the case pizarro ~made~ about 2 bitcoin during november, on the strength of its fiat-denominated holdings, taking it from being worth ~14 to being worth ~17 bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re ". Even when I manage a piece of evangelical Republican writing well received by the targeted community as measured by 'likes'... the reception warm reception is fuctionally empty." << the problem with this is the single-flower-spring issue. if you wish t go this route your measurements are in the dozens of accounts, spitting forth 100s of daily posts supporting each other across the whole "niche".
mircea_popescu: re http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/#selection-51.13-51.130 specifically (ie, "no hardware to sell"), is this actually the case ? i thought there was some overcapacity
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 00:17 BingoBoingo: My inclination was not to take the earlier committment for granted and underline the need to start working out a plan to achieve a positive ROI because I can't man alone it. Having sidechannel discussions outside this forum has been demonstrated -EV in the past. I am also wary of having strategic discussions outside of the channel where most of the republic's strategic and commercial competence sits.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886692 << I've been digesting your initial blawg post, and then that last thread. If I were to summarize what I'd read I'd say the short-term path is clear: start automating, and then reporting on metrics gathered. In the best case it seems the only way to generate enough sales. In the worst case you will have at least produced some meaningful statistics ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda curious what comes out of this.
BingoBoingo putting on shoes. asciilifeform is there anything in particular you want me to check for beyond what I reported yesterday?
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1714 - Part I. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886685 << i'ma match mod6 . and then see to it that mircea_popescu's advices are actually followed, even if ( and it appears that yes if ) i gotta run the spamatrons with own hands & feet ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I was feeling overdue for an appointment with the sharp rotating blades of the immutable machine.
BingoBoingo: My inclination was not to take the earlier committment for granted and underline the need to start working out a plan to achieve a positive ROI because I can't man alone it. Having sidechannel discussions outside this forum has been demonstrated -EV in the past. I am also wary of having strategic discussions outside of the channel where most of the republic's strategic and commercial competence sits. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-02-21 01:19 mircea_popescu: "she's been going through 6-7k each month since autumn, but i get to go visit p diddy whenever i feel like it. it's a wash"
mircea_popescu: because i can see why someone'd go, "eh, whatever, thirty heathens to the cent, i don't even mind paying". as per ye even older http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-21#1026639 ☝︎
mod6: I'm still committed to the 5 BTC promised a while ago.
trinque: ah, that's the error then, I thought it was already the symmetric.
mircea_popescu: trinque i'm not that in touch, but iirc it was a good deal as symmetric.
mircea_popescu: anyways, is the situation here is that mod6 is quietly opting out while you're explicitly opting out of the refinancing you both were very excited to do a year or so ago, back when i was rebuffing ben_vulpes with "the only thing another cap round buys you is not havign to do any work for a longer interval" ?
BingoBoingo: Even if I frame it as "we aren't utilizing the whole pipe", they are going to smell blood
trinque: "capacity will temporarily be X while BingoBoingo Ys, this gives T time left to P. customers will meanwhile accumulate S shares per billing cycle of diminished capacity" as a rough model of what I'm talking about.
trinque: BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886484 << I was looking for a calculation on your part, so you have something to negotiate with customers. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: last i heard you're not welcome in the us congress, will still get fined if you park in the main entryway to courthouse.
mircea_popescu: and i hear he has a wife to support, as well.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd expect not
trinque: since I still host everything important elsewhere, not as much as if I thought it'd be around.
asciilifeform: trinque: enlighten me, what exactly price is republican hosting worth to trinque ? is it '10% over what amazon costs' ? or 'the number i've grown used to?' what's the calculation there
diana_coman: myeah, that "into the black in two months" seems to me weird here; the trouble is not even "in two months" but at all; because it has been way more than 2 months and if it keeps going as is, I doubt 10 months would make a difference
mircea_popescu: the notion whereby "i've been doing something by hand in lieu of what i'm supposed to do" passing muster is not unlike the case where you send girl to buy you shoes and she comes by with "i love you alf" papier mache "8th march -- mother's day!!" gift.
trinque: asciilifeform: if you try to reach black by multiplying my bill, I'll just leave.
trinque: don't know if y'all have a realistic perception of what sales takes, and "I'm gonna sell my way into the black in two months" sounds like.
diana_coman: trinque, for s.mg it's less straightforward and it's not even just a matter of backups only; at any rate, it's at best "starvation mode" so I don't see how it really gets pizarro out of trouble; so far it's not even clear that *price* is the trouble re converting really; is it?
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm entirely in agreement with your earlier pt re 'i'd rather have thin pipe than no pipe'. the q is whether the currently unborn subscribers, who are needed in order to go into the black, will agree.
asciilifeform: trinque: i cannot speak for other users, but i saturate it regularly when i make backups
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, did you talk to your tech about automating any part of that? << I have not directly requested that no. There was the conversation that lead to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-12#1880371 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881538 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: this item is on acct of the geography, and i do not presently know of a cure
diana_coman: and I still don't know how many...