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mircea_popescu: that is a fine example. or, you know, calculate the mpfhf over the gutenberg collection.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-02 15:39 mircea_popescu: could I do something like !$mirror <url> 5 so as to get it to spin up 5 separate instances, load url, unpack it and serve ?
sina: I can actually feel asciilifeform being angry at me in the future already
sina: is that the same kind of idea?
sina: so people could sell CPU cycles, in a pretty hard sandbox, that only offered those 3 syscalls
mircea_popescu: myeah. all sorts of these.
sina: it was implemented for this CPUShare concept
sina: it's a linux kernel feature you can use to limit which syscalls a program has access to...the original version of seccomp allowed only read()/write()/exit() syscalls ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nah. candi_lustt is a by hand, limited implementation of something that could be deemed uci in the sense of the donkey-powered shower.
mircea_popescu: sina ah ok. yeah that's the idea.
mircea_popescu: see the early discussion re it in the log, http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=UCI it's well described
sina: I got that from the logsearch link you put, but http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-12#1582081 had me confused ☝︎
sina: ai thing?
sina: so can you untangle these for me as I'm a little confused
mircea_popescu: sina ftr, the lisp repl with irc interface was already built ; her name is candi_lustt
mircea_popescu: well, basically a bunch of people (ideally) will write ai bots, and solmeone will have to run their tournament.
sina: I did look at the learning tournament blog previously but I couldn't really grok it
sina: mircea_popescu: FYI that is a bunch of send and recv from 2 peers, (1 on port 5555, other on port 5556) on the same network interface (127.0.0.1) ...it's not a single "session"
mircea_popescu: i intend to hire someone to do the official run, see.
mircea_popescu: and i was talking specifically about the ai learning thing, http://trilema.com/2017/the-bitcoin-learning-tournament/
sina: where do I upload this pcap
sina: mircea_popescu: what do you want to see ideally? just a lisp repl with irc interface?
mircea_popescu: hey, teh republic is made of free men.
sina: today is Fri here, bout to return to work in a few days, so free time will be curtailed
sina: mircea_popescu: I dunno. all I can say is when I was reading the ai logs, and you mentioned irc repl, I was thinking about how it could be implemented
sina: I just googled "small RSA lib" and tomcrypt was one that had python bindings out of the box
sina: happy to swap out the RSA lib if one can be proposed
mircea_popescu: the two main problems are the db and the rsa import as it stands.
sina: can change tcp for udp, can change sql for flatfile, can change python for syslang ☟︎
sina: mircea_popescu: I feel fine about reducing everything once the concept is OK'd
mircea_popescu: sina can you dump pcap of two of these talking ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 02:15 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675565 << the problem with the concept of a "session" is that it attempts to link machine state to world state. this is a very tenuous proposition, and the fundamental reason why sessionificatyion of (the correctly designed) stateless http protocol failed for 30 years straight and will continue to fail forever.
mircea_popescu: and so the little guy grew...
sina: ok added some error handling to stop that issue in future, how annoyin
mircea_popescu: got some other stuff going right now, so not a good time, but tomorrow or such ?
sina: feel free to hop back on
sina: I was missing the final "-" of your pubkey footer
mircea_popescu: heh, sounds exactly like why man made computer in the first place.
sina: considering this is working on an identical setup locall
mircea_popescu: aite listen don't stress out, we'll try this again later.
mircea_popescu: 99% cpu too, nice handiwork there :D
sina: you can ctrl-c the daemon and I will tell you when to restart
mircea_popescu: i typed "hurr ?" into the demon window, though i suspect that's not intended usage
sina: sorry the UX bit of it is still a tad clunky
mircea_popescu: so i saved it as hurr.txt and then gossipc -k hurr.txt, no anmswer
sina: mircea_popescu: ok, so then save my key somewhere onto the filesystem like /tmp/sina_exchange.pub and run: gossipc --set-peer-key --name sina -k /tmp/sina_exchange.pub
mircea_popescu: gossipc just ends, is that intended ?
sina: yup. ok pls open another terminal, one to run the daemon and another to run the client
mircea_popescu goes back to readme to see wtf next.
mircea_popescu: hey, im into... something. there's pretty red colored stuff.
mircea_popescu: suspiciously enough, ssh-keygen takes all of 5ms or some shit.
sina: mircea_popescu: where are you atm? I booted in Frankfurt thinking you were in EU but just realised you're probly elsewhere :P
sina: ah interesting I actually had a similar idea after reading abotu the ai stuff
mircea_popescu: if only we had teh uci already ;/
mircea_popescu: sina prolly premature to hassle you with ah hey, that's an idea. sure.
sina: mircea_popescu: would you be willing to ssh into another box where it's setup?
mircea_popescu: well, this machine's not set up for such liftings.
mircea_popescu: some assembly required huh. fair enough, lessee this readme then\
sina: mircea_popescu: old man python hey? you should be able to clone the repo and run "python setup.py install" from inside the repo dir
mircea_popescu: the above should plainly explain btw (for instance, via asciilifeform 's "beat the ai" game), why rng is absolutely required for sovereign entity to even in principle exist.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/promising-and-promises/ << Trilema - Promising ; and promises.
mircea_popescu: sina ok, so terminal says python 2.6.5
ben_vulpes: i had no idea how shit the tanium was
ben_vulpes: tangentially relatedly, i've been working from a cheapo ssd in this ancient once-gaming-rig i got for a song and holy shit does it kick the ass off the ssds in macbooks
mircea_popescu: so, sina , shall we give this gossipd of yours a go ?
ben_vulpes: i only fuck with the jvm under duress
sina: ben_vulpes: you write clojure no? I'd be interested to race golang vs functional jvm
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/656A746A3CF65B13C3026486E29E425B8BEB6601D9ED8B5EEB1DE720A21E78EB << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1627...7153 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '72.51.46.126 (ssh-rsa key from 72.51.46.126 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mars.waven.com. US CA)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/656A746A3CF65B13C3026486E29E425B8BEB6601D9ED8B5EEB1DE720A21E78EB << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1523...1189 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '72.51.46.126 (ssh-rsa key from 72.51.46.126 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mars.waven.com. US CA)
mircea_popescu: but kids today don't know the history of infosec anymoar.
mircea_popescu: the only reason it was funny is because it was GAY niggers that came up with it in the 40s!
mircea_popescu: phf next you're going to come up with shade a la "the only reason it's fabulous is cuz it's ghey" and then ima get my disbaseball bat
mircea_popescu: this + the ai learning thing, which i've not forgot about btw, will update it soonish.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-10 04:08 sina: or is this a spec bug
sina: I can't remember what this one was about http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-10#1668188 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway -- thanks to the werkz we are now in a better position to find out if this thing even works.
phf: apparently it's called a "dis", african americans invented it in the 40s
mircea_popescu: is this hate ?
phf: some fiat shit right there
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6kdtw0/dead_altsoros_zbigniew_brzezinski_no_longer/ << If anyone cares to upboat or watch for unhappening
asciilifeform: did ben_vulpes ever get his to agree answerwise with the others?
sina: it was a pleasure to work on!
mircea_popescu: this has been such a pleasant little gem. thanks!
sina: looks good to me
mircea_popescu: what is the count of iterations that corresponds to your symbol "all" ?
mircea_popescu: sina what is the definition of "complete" ?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/dead-alt-soros-no-longer-effective-in-protecting-daughter-from-truth/ << Qntra - Dead alt-Soros No Longer Effective In Protecting Daughter From Truth
mircea_popescu: the whole game is "define ALL your elements and then USE NOTHING BUT THE DEFINED ELEMENTS"
sina: "Once the position is larger than the size of M" how about "once all iterations are complete"
mircea_popescu: if no more changes, shit left to do re mpfhf : a) do some proper profiling work, with timings etc. could make a great blog article. b) try and break it, like any hash. could make a bnunch of great blog articles (tried this, so and so, didn't work -- can do this 500 times).
mircea_popescu: aged 17 to 71
mircea_popescu: to wrap head. and such a wide palette ~impossible for anyone to not find a language he speaks.
mircea_popescu: the great advantage of your work is that people can now just read the impl.
sina: yah, I just remember when implementing it I had to write out that sentence on notepad as A and B to wrap my head
mircea_popescu: incidentally, ben_vulpes & other blog afficionados, check me out with the article renaming on the fly, yes ? and old name resolves and everything ? go me ok ? OK ?
mircea_popescu: but there are no other elements defined than S and R
sina: mircea_popescu: suggestion. "A third operation is the flipping of a number of bits in either S or R," should read "elements A or B" and make that operation generic
mircea_popescu: sina fixed i think?
mircea_popescu: i think i was so ashamed of publishing bs originally that i just edited on the spot
sina: mircea_popescu: I didn't forget, I thought you updated the blogpost on the day to reflect that and I did it on my README too