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mircea_popescu: i would say i'm quite happy, actually. as far as
the user end is concerned
this could work just fine.
sina: anyway, if youre happy with
that generally as a "first draft" I am keen
to refine incrementally
sina: as you can see in
the gossipc stdout, it's all RSA, stateless whatever style
sina: mircea_popescu: ssh root@45.77.66.53 in
two windows, one 'gossipd'. other 'gossipc --send-message --source whoever --message whatever' and
then 'gossipc -g'
to view msgs
mircea_popescu: sina ok so, paste
the commands again if you will ? i'm logged.
sina: yeah cool
that's pretty much what I
thought after yoru comments re sqlite/rsa being
the main
things needing changifying
mircea_popescu: sina honestly i kinda got
the
tech stuff i wanted
to see already, but let's do one so it actually works and
there's a "first line exchanged
through prototype".
sina: 'ma
tear down
the shithost
sina: mircea_popescu: you wanna play with
this gossipthing yet?! otherwise I'
sina: literally
told me you don't believe in
time!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aren;t you proud ? but well done,
there's nothing more fulfilling
than for man
to achieve goal he sets for himself.
mircea_popescu: was later an anchor
to
try and give blogging a bad name, decade later phenomenon.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
this existed in romania
too, weirdly enough just about syncrhonously, early 90s. it was an incredible collection of chicks nobody would fuck with a hog's dick and really pedosmiled older dudes.
mircea_popescu: death of
the author, bish. he can't say anything, fanfic has established
the epileptic
trees!
phf: (check it,
their second realm book starts out with
TAZ in
the subtitle, and
that was
the mondo 2000
thing,
that we're going
to build anarchist communes online. idiots, hakim bey came out and said very explicitly
that
the last chapter of
TAZ where he ~speculated~
that internet might have a potential for
TAZ was a mistake and
to not please refer
to your "cybercommunes" as
TAZ'es anymore)
mircea_popescu: i recall now why i recalled u dudley's piece so firmly. it was because
the undescribably sad.
mircea_popescu: hiow did
that go, "local mathematician scores near miss".
mircea_popescu: and plox don't
tell me "it's because your instruments are dirty, in factr apple could buy russia", as
these discussions usually
tend
to go.
mircea_popescu: porn valley
took over
the world. silicon valley did jack
the fuck shit already. why ?
phf: mondo 2000,
the proto valley crowd, i
think we had
the
thread. basically, jwz.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: phf its actually both a pity and impenetrable
to me, why exactly weird california never actually happy.
mircea_popescu: i bought one of
those "make snark while you sleep"
things
mircea_popescu: phf are you intimating
they're just letting me get addicted after which
they'll reel me in ???
phf: "Since we have had several downtimes of our clearnet gateways, all regular visitors are advised
to bookmark
the darknet addresses as well."
mircea_popescu: in
truth, if
that's how church went i'd have possibly even gone.
mircea_popescu: ah, so like a catholic church where i
take
two whores in see
through garb and
they automagically and behind
the scenes deck
them in white veils, redo
their hair
to less brothely and sprinkle holyt water everywhere ?
mircea_popescu: im not even sure why
this would be relevant. i'm
there on a web browser, nothing happened as of yet.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
to answer
the original question, no. new people join all
the
time.
mircea_popescu: this should be enough
to illustrate why exactly
the linked piece is yet another paradoxing
trisection.
though dudley would predict it won't work.
mircea_popescu: t
to "come up with
their own reasons" as
to whether
they're studying basic arithmetics or not ; i DO permit
them autonomy in
the sense
that if
they bring me a dead body i'll get rid of it rather
than you know, "report it
to
the police".
mircea_popescu: EIC
https://anarplex.net/hosted/files/secondrealm/blog_post.html <<
the obvious objections being
that formally
this reads just like yet another ustarded neoprotestant "i heard
there's a world yesterday and here's how
to fix it"
tract, as so many before starting with abolitionism and aparently never endingly ; and fundamentally
that "autonomy" is utterly naive. i do not permit autonomy my slavegirls, in
the sense
they don't ge
EIC: all it
takes is
time...
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 23:21 mircea_popescu: you mean #trilema ? here's a part of
the magnificent new
tech of
the republic : you
too can be just as old as everyone, as soon as you get arouind
to it!
mircea_popescu: you mean #trilema ? here's a part of
the magnificent new
tech of
the republic : you
too can be just as old as everyone, as soon as you get arouind
to it!
☟︎ EIC: not sure i can cleanly define a subset -
too new still. just
that feelin'
EIC: i get
the feeling
this is a
tight knit group...
mircea_popescu: [19:07] == fhp [user@mynet0id.d0q.ejevp0.IP] has joined #agora <<
this
text snippet has gone
through seven proxies.
EIC: yeah. old
timers. cypherpunks and wanna-bees
EIC: maybe
the expired certificate is causing problems with kiwi?
mircea_popescu: EIC well, can't connect. i dunno,
tell
them if anyone cares and let me know when
they get around
to fixing it ?
phf: that's all i have really, it's 1am in vienna, and i know for a fact
there's at least 3 parties going on right now, but i'm kind of beat and sort of
thinking about going
to sleep. is
that how old age feels?
mircea_popescu: shinohai also weird re constants. 14716. anyway ima kiwiirc if any of
the locals developed a
taste for watching
these
shinohai: "Connection is already encrypted by
Tor, so do NOT enable additional SSL for
the connection. " <<< lmao
EIC: 14716 clearnet, 6667
tor
mircea_popescu: anarplex.net 6667 or are
the internet dweebs sworn
to absolute wankery also weird about
their constants ?
EIC: that's about
the main reason no one uses clearnet
EIC: it's inhabited by crypto-geeks sworn
to absolute secrecy.
EIC: i
think
there's a clearnet address, but no one really uses it.
EIC: worth checking out #Agora via
tor. quiet, but similar
thinking.
EIC: i was checking out
trilema.com. feels a lot like
the anarplex.net approach. more active here.
mircea_popescu: in other words,
there's a relation between comutativity and colinearity, of all
things!
mircea_popescu: anyway, fuck him. let's wash
the useemly americana out with some cosideration of
the beauty of reasoned
truth. so : pappus was
this greek from alexandria who first documentedly observed
that if given
two sets of colinear points,
then
the intersections of
the lines uniting
them will also be colinear.
the beauty is
that
this
theorem holds in all projective planes built over fields, but does not hold in projective planes derived
mircea_popescu: tion (or website) and you can't do it because
that feature isn't implemented -- how is
that any different
than not being able
to do something due
to an error message?"
mircea_popescu: "It's an insoluble problem. Furthermore, I
think most bug
tracking systems fail us because
they make us ask
the wrong questions.
They force you
to pick a side. Hatfields vs. McCoys. Coke vs. Pepsi. Bug vs. Feature Request. It's a painful and arbitrary decision, because most of
the
time, it's both.
There's no difference between a bug and a feature request from
the user's perspective. If you want
to do something with an applica
mircea_popescu: and with
this, #trilema stands firmly entrenched at
the forefront of anglo cultural space, and at a considerable distance from
the rest of
the
troop, at
that!\
mircea_popescu: anyway, between
this "the vermin came later" 8086 installation,
the bottle of dial glue, a pile of equerres labeled "a collection of eschers" and so on,
there's just about enough for a collaborative exhibition. and yet...
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 01:28 asciilifeform: in practice, enthusiastic halfwits dun have much originality in
their works.
mircea_popescu: but irl, what passes for artists is randal mcfuckhead, what's his name, with
the unviolated rights of opressed minorities.
mircea_popescu: if
they did
that sort of shit, i could almost respect artists.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (the butt of
this joke being "but listen, 8086 didn't have mice yet!" "nor bugs.")
mircea_popescu: but imagine, you know, an ancient all steel 8086 case, with a wired mouse on
the right and a round metal box on
the left, also wired in. box clearly labeled, "#@$!#", and inside, some dead bugs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, in other lulz : ro for straightedge geometry
tool is "echer". obviously from french equerre, but i always
told people it's from escher.
mircea_popescu: because nobody came up with
the obvious idea of a lulzworkshop. clearly labeled "dial glue" and other such useful items.
mircea_popescu is vaguely amusing at
the whole ustardian faux-art... what shall we call it, it;s not a profession, how about community ?
mircea_popescu: but
the important point -- contrary
to
the dood's own mendacious misrepresentation,
the
time and money was NOT spent on
the kid.
trinque: I just
told him he was right, and kid had a lot less cognitive dissonance
to endure.