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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687970 << just when i thought i get it - i dun get it! ☝︎
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F92A17F4E8024732CEFD26BCDEF00A638E63BE3D6A133D8C86A963BA62704EC6 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1381...1273 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.114.64.74 (ssh-rsa key from 189.114.64.74 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (server.scalabrini.com.br. BR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F92A17F4E8024732CEFD26BCDEF00A638E63BE3D6A133D8C86A963BA62704EC6 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1735...2813 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.114.64.74 (ssh-rsa key from 189.114.64.74 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (server.scalabrini.com.br. BR)
mircea_popescu: for the people who hallucinate choice where there is no space for them to choose, a usg will always be found somewhere.
mircea_popescu: and so now all of 'em got exactly what they were asking for. no more "evil banana republic" and their sense of "superior detachment' unhindered. they can roll their eyes all they want ; and it's not just the last but also the only thing to do.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 20:07 mircea_popescu: this is observably true, in history : the proposition that "it's a great idea to live above your means" was the proximate cause of "french revolution" and every other socialist attack on money hence
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 20:06 mircea_popescu: the proposition that we'd end up with a sort of uci-as-nsa and l1-as-subtstitute-for-dnc is very much the proposition that, "you know what ? inca also corrupts"
mircea_popescu: this is how http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687683 / http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687686 exactly works : footsoldier element of chickfield equivalent feels, see that, FEELS in his fulla-shit guts not merely that he is BETTER THAN such employment, but that he can... SEPARATE himself from the system. and in that bloody crevice of placenta abrupta the blessings of socialism fungate. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 00:04 phf: i.e. a handful of arrests, a handful of "demoted and moved to a different department" etc. and at least one death that we knew was no longer "bratki"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687960 << hey, smartass dood too busy importantly nosebreathing about "how he doesn't like manele" / "evil banana republic" instead of queuing up in the recruitment strip clubs. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:57 phf: hah, nah, i'm more of petka from chapayev i pustota. i spent the 90s with amateur esotericists. i didn't actually get to play the businessman, so didn't acquire any of these skills
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 01:28 mircea_popescu: aaaahahahaha o brother. "postmodern film/video theory & crit with an emphasis on phenomenology" ? reheheheally.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:52 phf: ahaha, http://www.jstor.org.sci-hub.cc/stable/23349218?seq=3#page_scan_tab_contents "THE MONSTROUS AGGREGATE OF THE SOCIAL: TOWARD BIOPOLITICS IN VICTOR PELEVIN'S WORK", haven't read but third page has a section titled "Biopolitics in Foucault"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687947 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687072 and no, the similarities do not stop there. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:49 asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu would prolly snoar, however, this setting is old hat to him. )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687945 << the problem is that the russian intellectual pose is very irritating to me. the whole fucking text exists so that the author can "roll his eyes" however you say that in russian, aka to bake in somehow unobservedly the proposition the speaker and all those like him aren't horse's asses. it doesn't amuse me in 16yo usian chicks ; let alone in 36 yo russian doods. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:36 asciilifeform: other thing is, even if you don't want for anything the 'milk' (cpu cycles etc) of pwned derp, and simply going for max materiel damage, formatting hdd is not necessarily the max
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687915 << the problem with these "distinctions" is that they propose to import ntp in to "work". im not about to drag that into codebase, and i dont' care for "working" so defined. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:19 asciilifeform: ( pretty great title, too )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687900 << but what is this greatness composed of ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:16 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687889 << ben_vulpes ponder the sheer hilarity of the 'they revoked key based on faux signature!11' by same derp who heckled the 'peter anvin' key affair
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687893 << no it wasn't same derp see, as per ancient south park, ustards are allowed to be "different" when need be. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:13 ben_vulpes is regularly surprised at the thickness of derp found in the 'security community'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687890 << "they just mean well". if they could get the honest social signal / justthefacs!!! already ploxty. ☝︎
phf: i.e. a handful of arrests, a handful of "demoted and moved to a different department" etc. and at least one death that we knew was no longer "bratki" ☟︎☟︎
phf: by the time i started figuring out the socioeconomic part of the question it was a year too late (they started tightening the screws some time before putin came to power, which was not so much the beginning but the announcement of the done deal. i remember '99 the situation of a lot of people changed drastically.) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ''And what will it do for me?' 'You'll see soon enough,' replied Gireiev. 'You'll be drying them for winter yourself.''
asciilifeform: well specifically the mushroom d00d
phf: hah, nah, i'm more of petka from chapayev i pustota. i spent the 90s with amateur esotericists. i didn't actually get to play the businessman, so didn't acquire any of these skills ☟︎
asciilifeform will even re-read in engl., which previously could not have conceived of wanting to do.
asciilifeform: hether there was any likelihood of being passed a false banknote and whether he could pass on a false note himself. There was no definite system involved in all this. Sometimes a fist like a hairy water-melon would appear in the little window, but it was obvious that Tatarsky could quite safely send its owner to hell and beyond. Then sometimes Tatarsky's heart would skip a beat in fright at the sight of a slim female hand ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'While he was working in the kiosk (it went on for a little less than a year), Tatarsky acquired two new qualities. The first was a cynicism as boundless as the view from the Ostankino television tower; the second was something quite remarkable and inexplicable. Tatarsky only had to glance at a customer's hands to know whether he could short-change him and by exactly how much, whether he could be insulting to him, w
asciilifeform: given as i missed out on the pleasure of the '90s in person, and he -- not
asciilifeform: i'll confess that i always pictured phf as literally the hero from 'generationp'
phf: ahaha, http://www.jstor.org.sci-hub.cc/stable/23349218?seq=3#page_scan_tab_contents "THE MONSTROUS AGGREGATE OF THE SOCIAL: TOWARD BIOPOLITICS IN VICTOR PELEVIN'S WORK", haven't read but third page has a section titled "Biopolitics in Foucault" ☟︎
phf: that, and subtitled Brat is pretty much all you need to understand moscow in the 90s :p
asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu would prolly snoar, however, this setting is old hat to him. ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: hy it was worth exchanging an evil empire for an evil banana republic that imported its bananas from Finland.'
asciilifeform: to which fascism had led the nation, with the former Kom-mandant of Auschwitz heading the Commission for the Detention of Nazi Criminals, and SS generals explaining in clear and simple words the importance of liberal values, while the whole cabal was led by the newly enlightened Gauleiter of Eastern Prussia. Tatarsky, of course, hated most of the manifestations of Soviet power, but he still couldn't understand w
asciilifeform: ' Meanwhile the television was still showing the same old repulsive physiognomies that had been sickening the viewers for the last twenty years. Now they were saying exactly the same things they used to jail other people for, except that they were far bolder, far more decisive and radical. Tatarsky often found himself imagining Germany in 1946, with Doktor Goebbels shrieking hysterically on the radio about the abyss in
asciilifeform: would like to find the one of 'numbers' tho.
asciilifeform: 'The USSR, which they'd begun to renovate and improve at about the time when Tatarsky decided to change his profession, improved so much that it ceased to exist (if a state is capable of entering nirvana, that's what must have happened in this case)...'
phf: i found a "собрание сочинений" pack of his english texts, but it doesn't have dpp, nor is amazon etc. turning up a translated version.
asciilifeform: who did the other one
asciilifeform: iirc it was this d00d. bromfield.
asciilifeform: ( and iirc the result was not wholly barfalicious, even )
asciilifeform: there is, some brit translated
phf: is there an eng version?
asciilifeform: ( original is easy to find )
asciilifeform: of the translation, i mean
phf: no, unfortunately, hardcover book picked up on a moscows trip
asciilifeform: dun suppose phf has a 133337w4rez txt of this.
asciilifeform: iirc it even exists in a (middling) engl translation
asciilifeform: i suspect mircea_popescu would luvv that piece
phf: asciilifeform: i was thinking the one числа (or perhaps it's called мощь великого?), that was re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687868 and the general discussion of "acting from gut" ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( set him up as a relay for whatever type of pr0n is banned where he is, leak his cc, etc )
asciilifeform: other thing is, even if you don't want for anything the 'milk' (cpu cycles etc) of pwned derp, and simply going for max materiel damage, formatting hdd is not necessarily the max ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and do you even ~want~ this particular milk. )
asciilifeform: can milk cow. if it gives milk. whole puzzle was, as i understand, 'can haz milk? or go straight to meat'
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 22:06 mircea_popescu: "do i own this box, yes/no" "if yes, why is there crap on it / if no why am i futzing with it".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687870 << 'do i own this cow? if yes, why is it not sausage yet' ☝︎
asciilifeform: gotta wonder what was the thought process. 'i'ma pay for dope with shitpal just this ONCE' ??
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: only you'd know that. twas just my 2c from 10k feet.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 22:15 shinohai: " Public court filings revealed by the US Federal Government show that his use of Paypal in paying for a gold membership was helpful to the government in identifying his true identity."
asciilifeform: ' the oracle in my arse told me to do it, and fuckoff.jpg '
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what i meant is, i dun have necessarily a communicable logic for why i operate in particular way, and if pressed , tend to react similarly to mircea_popescu's
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: also, that you framed "i think with this" shows that... you're head. hate to break it to you. to "think with gut" is to choose a restaurant to eat at not to open a restaurant.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't actually recall his role in the anvin affair
asciilifeform: ( pretty great title, too ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( it's a compendium of shorts. which one was phf thinking of ? )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687889 << ben_vulpes ponder the sheer hilarity of the 'they revoked key based on faux signature!11' by same derp who heckled the 'peter anvin' key affair ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 22:19 pete_dushenski: of course there are proportions at play, no one is 100% any one thing, but mp is at least 3/4 gut, stan at least 3/4 head, thus the 'how can you just do?' question
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687877 << i hate to disappoint pete_dushenski , but i also think with gut. however, perhaps different section of gut than mircea_popescu . ☝︎
ben_vulpes is regularly surprised at the thickness of derp found in the 'security community' ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "Caskets can cost thousands of dollars to buy, and are even being sold in some major supermarket chains. But at the Coffin Club, members only need to supply their own materials. Russell Game is a club mentor but he is also making a coffin for himself. "It's so much cheaper than buying a coffin," he said."
pete_dushenski: speaking of facing the music, http://archive.is/Zv5gG
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pete_dushenski: of course there are proportions at play, no one is 100% any one thing, but mp is at least 3/4 gut, stan at least 3/4 head, thus the 'how can you just do?' question ☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687858 << simplistic, almost shamanistic though it is, there is perhaps useful trichotomy of heart-heart-gut, being three possible answers for "why" a given person does a given thing. heart because of how it makes her feel and how it makes the people around her feel ; head because it's cerebrally satisfying ; gut because gotta get the fucking show on the road already here. ☝︎
shinohai: " Public court filings revealed by the US Federal Government show that his use of Paypal in paying for a gold membership was helpful to the government in identifying his true identity." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "do i own this box, yes/no" "if yes, why is there crap on it / if no why am i futzing with it". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not thinking at all ; but in any case : when there IS a fine oracle, why bother with more.
asciilifeform: i'll add that thinking per se dun have to make you predictable from game theoretical pov , the other major trap
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> middling. why ? << Only middling when you play for the sport of it. IRL you decapitate opponent's king with bolt cutters and dare them to object
asciilifeform: not because thinking.
asciilifeform: 'femaleworry' is idiotic because it's a decision algo that dun converge in constant time
asciilifeform: though it is arduous, and i'd rather get oracle installed, somebody gotta say to me where .
asciilifeform: and will say, thinking n moves ahead !=' femaleworry '
asciilifeform: given as he has a right-move oracle installed in him, and dun have to think any moves ahead
diana_coman: played a bit with ffa too; maybe I get some time to add to mod6's testing of it
mircea_popescu: dumbfounding shitnonsense is this anyway. i do the things i do because they ARE! the right things to do. present fucking tense. not because i'm hopping such and such a tomorrow as'll make them retrospectively the right things. wtf is even this, inflatothink.
diana_coman: used the pointers given by ave1 really
a111: Logged on 2013-02-16 14:17 Diablo-D3: people who are that rich dont hang out on IRC
asciilifeform: rather than screwing with software etc
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 20:56 diana_coman: neah, it says it can't even see it then; will try another time with the adacore 4.9
diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666713 <- finally got around to try it and I can confirm it works perfectly fine on gnat 2016 from adacore, gcc 4.9.4 ☝︎
asciilifeform: d00d who 'dun care what tomorrow' stays on the cocaine yacht.
mircea_popescu: on the basis of previous things.
asciilifeform: and yet you do some things and not others.