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a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:26 mircea_popescu:
the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise
the night of no internet means
the end of
the republic as such.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe
they just don't happen
to have
the magic one. it's my story an' i'm sticking
to it
till ave1 pops back in.
trinque: did
the "revdep-rebuild" and "fix_libtool_files.sh" and apparently none of
these ever conceived of a man
that wished
to go back
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform + die 'Failed
to build gcc-4.9.5' << you clearly have
the wrong one. because
this is a
thing now, "wrong 4.9"
mircea_popescu: good
thing you
two decided
to put it in
the log, sounds exactly what
the baked-in "reasonable" move would be, who knows how many souls it claimed.
shinohai: I retardedly did
the same
thing
trinque during one of my earlier attempts w/ ada
trinque: attempted a downgrade back
to 4.x, how naive!
trinque: I've got a gentoo box
that's severely
tangled due
to it having hauled in >gcc-5 with whichever portage gnat, something something ABI change C++2017 bright future (TM)
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:17 shinohai:
http://archive.is/tz5DN “…
the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.”
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform + die 'Failed
to build gcc-4.9.5' << you clearly have
the wrong one. because
this is a
thing now, "wrong 4.9"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise
the night of no internet means
the end of
the republic as such.
☟︎☟︎ phf: so reading pelevin back
then might've had a very different effect from reading him now. chapayev and pustota
then blew my mind because i read it when it came out and it was very present
time, but his 2000s stuff i don't get at all (because i read it in u.s. perhaps), and some
things didn't age
that well.
trinque: can say
that "ah I read some alan watts and huxley, my getting high has a point" *was*
that kind of signaling in my younger stoner circles, can see how mp would get
there.
phf: but
then i was at a potomac jew book club where
they were discussing generation p (or one of
the earlier novels anyway), and
they couldn't get past
THE HORROR OF
THE 90s, literally entire conversations were about omg so much crime. all
these people emigrated right after
the collapse, where's for me
the staple of 90s (oh
there's a dead body on
the corner, because petya shnur couldn't share
the
territory with vasya kulak, shrug) were
the norm
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:28 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687945 <<
the problem is
that
the russian intellectual pose is very irritating
to me.
the whole fucking
text exists so
that
the author can "roll his eyes" however you say
that in russian, aka
to bake in somehow unobservedly
the proposition
the speaker and all
those like him aren't horse's asses. it doesn't amuse me in 16yo usian chicks ; let alone in 36 yo russian doods.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687972 << i'm not sure
that's a criticism
that can be leveled at pelevin, he's got other
traps
though. he has a keen eye for
the present, but
then he adds a layer of interpretation very much in
the style of
This Is What's Really Happening, which is usually of esoteric nature. his bratki
take psychedelic mushrooms "to get fucked up next level!1" and accidentally break into
the a shared buddhist realm of higher being,
t ☝︎☟︎ trinque: I'm 30 now; 90s amount
to a vague memory of "people might've done
things before. maybe in
the 80s?"
☟︎ phf: but
the 90s was such a shoulda-coulda-woulda decade, looking at it in retrospect can only reveal your own limitations. so i can understand mp's sentiment
phf: amusingly enough all
the mil crowd
that was quietly sitting out
the 90s are
the ones
that were making real bank on
the sly, and
that's
the people i should've been reaching out
to (considering...)
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 19:15 asciilifeform:
translating
to engl always feels like hand-compiling
to risc asm
phf: russian has
this neat property of packing double
triple meanings into
the phrase by using subtle word modifications and word order, which is what asciilifeform
tried approximating with "giveya" :)
phf: "unlce vanya will
take you in, for a bit of work"
trinque: what's
the quoted ru part, for
the peanut gallery?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 00:04 phf: i.e. a handful of arrests, a handful of "demoted and moved
to a different department" etc. and at least one death
that we knew was no longer "bratki"
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687977 << mostly age,
the few years
that i'm younger
than you i
think made all
the difference in
the 90s scheme of
things. by
the
time i "queuing up in
the recruitment strip" it was
tail end of
the epoch
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 17:05 asciilifeform:
they have a phrase
they use amongst
themselves, 'societal security'.
shinohai:
http://archive.is/tz5DN “…
the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.”
☟︎ jhvh1: asciilifeform:
The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:23 mircea_popescu: but --
the fact
that A happens
to already have a connection
to B and
therefore B can S for him does not imply or require either A or B be not behind a nat.
shinohai: I
thank you also ave1 .... will
try
this sometimes
this weekend
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 16:17 asciilifeform: !~later
tell ave1 have you ever used
http://sabotage.tech 's musltronic linux ? or have any idea who maintains it ? invite'em here.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 10:06 ave1: well, I did not, but have looked at it now, I like
the static story but fail
to understand why
they need
to have
their own faux systemd
ave1: you're welcome! I'm working on getting
the gnat gpl code
to work with
the gcc 4.9.4 release (now
they are using a special version of 4.9)
ave1: it does not yet contain
the asis based
tools (gnatelim for example)
ave1: after 3 hours or so, you'll have a
tar file
there with static gcc/gnat
tools
that are all based on musl
ave1: well, I did not, but have looked at it now, I like
the static story but fail
to understand why
they need
to have
their own faux systemd
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Sweet dreams of challenging salvadoran backdoor
trinque
trinque: mod6: hey maybe
there's some
tight white girl pussy inside
to visit.
BingoBoingo: Man, people gotta learn ettiquette. If you challenge someone's door, and someone on other side meets your challenge
then you gotta offer your own door for
their challenging.
trinque: he
turned and ran, but wasn't an ass worth chasing
trinque: I opened it, asked him if he was having
trouble with
the lock.
trinque: heh, some idiot central american dude just
tried my front door.
mircea_popescu: and i guess
the next round of
these idiots will not "know" how
to find
the previous round in
the logs.
mircea_popescu: strange, i
thought
the stupid shit marttered and was needed and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: he upstart 1/3 of new york small
time pimps and coffin sellers, he gutted his economy.
mircea_popescu: this is no small matter, but
touching
to
the very
trunk of
the
tree of wisdom. inept schoolboy hitler saw WORDS proferred by anglo-sybils in new york as DEEDS of
the jews. instead of embracing germany's jews and putting forth
the god-obvious "those anglo muppets are jews like ford made
tin cans are cars", cut
them at
the knees of
their entirely absent legitimacy and
then let
the experts (all on his side) wipe
the floor with
t mircea_popescu: there was no better demographic
to support nazism
than
the jews, is
the
truth of 1935.
mircea_popescu: the germans -- also congenitally retarded -- managed
to go
to war with all
their natural allies in fucking order.
the sight, it boggles
the mind.
mircea_popescu: now, manwhile goym went
to shit making hasids look ultraorthodfox whatever. but not what
they were back when
they actually carried meaning rather
than mere
tradiiton.
mircea_popescu: if you've seen cabaret with liza minelli, i would propose
that
the rich jewish chick
there depicted is a very correct rendition of
the hasid maiden.
mircea_popescu: the whole concept was
to make
the wife more of a domestic partner and less of a domestic animal, with better results wrt
the control of
the young hussies.
mircea_popescu: and it permitted women in
the first and fundamental sense of, allowing
they are human. not as rabbis, and not usually educated in
the formal yeshiva sense. but it did
teach
them
to write and read, which was entirely novel.
mircea_popescu: i would say it is. it was a genuine reform movement, and it was shockingly liberal for
the early 1800s born.
mircea_popescu: the hassids permitted. it's complicated, but, in
the context of judaism (which is STRICTLY an eastern european affair, just as "united states" will not be a
thing of hawaii even long after
the continent is no longer us and
the island still clings
to history), hasidism was a sort of 1800s 1960s. flower power all
the way.
mircea_popescu: see,
that;s
the item
there. not when
they started praying ; but when
the priests started fearing
their not praying any longer.
mircea_popescu: if you will. happens everywhere
though. divine boy will make
the girl let all her articles of clothing go down
the river one by one, and spend
the rest of
the weekend naked among
the
trees. base boy will be struck with
the girl's beauty, marry her and raise her children.
mircea_popescu: which is how
the xtian god ended up married with picket fences and an obnoxious wife. it got corrupted.
mircea_popescu: large part of it is cultural. imagine, alf captured by africans. "tell us
the
trilema secrets!!1"