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diana_coman: Mocky_, congrats; I guess.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, perhaps re clocks though I keep thinking that the cheap ones were as clocks as current smartphones are computers
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-26#1890218 << I finally got job offer yesterday ☝︎
asciilifeform: i use'em ('txco' being the generic term for subj) in radio.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for thread-completeness - same jp folx (and others) also sell a temp-controlled 'oven' xtal, warrantied to 1 ppm. these draw lotsa current, comparatively, and cost 50x moar, so i did not use in FG ( where the accuracy of the oscillator is solely to put out the expected baud rate, and it dun do any good to make it substantially higher than the receiving machine's )
asciilifeform: i'ma not pollute the log then.
mircea_popescu: (fwiw, i got trilema comments on feedbot 's rss, so it notifies me if/when anyone says something)
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 18:13 phf: i supper proper presentation of fg schematics in a v-tron is either in the style of the marine chronometer book i have next to me or not at all. "taking first the essentials, c is the escape wheel. the escapement consists of the bar E, carrying the two projections e, e' etc". everything else ought to be handled separately
a111: Logged on 2017-02-17 04:27 phf: re "apprentice as watchmaker" i picked up first edition of The Marine Chronometer by Gould. i would call it "delightful"
diana_coman: ahaha, I refrained from commenting because I thought "uhm, I have NO idea exactly HOW were those watches broken" but my first thought was that they were likely unpredictably broken i.e. each will show ~random hour rather than "time with x error"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you were looking for a 'k vs r -strategy' illustration, this is prolly the worst possible 1. i'dve used , e.g., 'columbus send 3 $maxint boats but vikings did same with 9000 dragonheads costing ~epsilon ea.' or sumthing like it.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-26 18:16 asciilifeform: speaking of 'where to stop', diana_coman i still dunhave a Troo proof that after r - 1 shots, the squaring loop really does always cycle; so unless i find one, i'ma have to put in a mux there.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-26#1890228 sadly I don't have proof for it ☝︎
mircea_popescu: lmao. you know, many have tried, none have yet succeeded in guessing as much as a title, as much as a sentence, afore i publish my brew.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 20:45 asciilifeform: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7e/22/01/7e2201f558d42e467cc35c278b211882--stoves-fairytale.jpg << '80s ver
asciilifeform: speaking of 'where to stop', diana_coman i still dunhave a Troo proof that after r - 1 shots, the squaring loop really does always cycle; so unless i find one, i'ma have to put in a mux there. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and hey, asciilifeform is not even the worst horse in that gluefactory, the 1000 btc or whatever it was i calculated then, is still coupla orders of magnitude smaller than that d00d we had who 'couldn't do' until he had orbiting station with solar sail or what was it ( kanzure ? )
mircea_popescu: that's exactly what i'm thinking of.
asciilifeform: i dun mean 'bust open guts trying to move it', but 'when somebody gets wind that you have it'
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
mircea_popescu: anyone have a ready link to asciilifeform 's celebrated "in order for me to do anything else i'd have to have three trillion dollars in gold brick first" ?
shinohai: I rather enjoyed that post, btw. The soldering on that board is just beautiful.
shinohai: (The color is leftover from vanilla install anyways, I usually strip this from .bashrc for daily use)
asciilifeform: shinohai: 1 other thing -- screenshits of shell are pretty hard to read (on e.g. asciilifeform's display), i recommend to use same textblock as you use elsewhere ( e.g. where 'list of dependencies' ) rather than screenshit
asciilifeform: shinohai: i dun have any nitpicks , other than to note that the canonical gnat is ave1's
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : i'ma rewrite my proofism from beginning, to see if i committed any other atrocity.
asciilifeform: i ought not to do these before breakfast.
asciilifeform: ok, i'ma go an' set the kettle, bbl.
asciilifeform: to redo the earlier munged example: bin(12) == 1100. s = 2. r = 3. (n - 1)^r mod n == (12 - 1)^3 mod 12 == 11^3 mod 12 == 11, i.e. n - 1. witness.
diana_coman: no hurry; if I have a mistake in there I certainly want to know
diana_coman: unless I have a mistake in there
diana_coman: asciilifeform, ? mind working me through that? I might be thick here
diana_coman: hm; it always says "prime" though by definition so I'm not sure *what* information is missed when you exclude it
asciilifeform: i.e. case where a^r mod n = 1 or n - 1 .
BingoBoingo: Maduro thrives on low level bureacracy. I doubt anyone is taking Nancy seriously after she proposed the same sum Trump wanted, but for robodogs.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo reading through this crap i see what you mean ; not exactly exultant pantsuit on the receiving end of trump's mercy. seems rather most of the low level bureaucracy will vote trump next, notwithstanding it owes so much to a lengthy clintonism.
mircea_popescu: i guess i can see it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> lol what die. i dunget the whiners, either, what sorta office inmate wouldn't kill for month of vacation ( even unpaid ) << Maduro's Venezuela has some pretty sweet beaches now forbidden to USG.blue according to intel.
asciilifeform: lol what die. i dunget the whiners, either, what sorta office inmate wouldn't kill for month of vacation ( even unpaid )
asciilifeform: i dunget why not tease with another +3wks of hunger
BingoBoingo: I read Trump seeing that blame in this dispute is still not sufficiently laid upon Nancy's failure to engage Trump. For that reason Trump is teasing Nancy with 3 weeks to engage or hang herself.
BingoBoingo: I read less of a cave, more let them choke on cake
mircea_popescu: and i'm cordially invited to sponsor his delusion. and if i opt not to, he will... RETRY. ☟︎
asciilifeform: then i got nuffin
BingoBoingo: I suspect 74.90.192.109 is likely a Google trying to cache lost porn. Or a butthurt RO dude abusing google yonkers machines now that he has a pension.
mircea_popescu: i bet you 5 years after reddit went the way of the dnc, they'll still be pressing f5
mircea_popescu: guy prolly takes his pets to the vet, "doc, i think something's wrong, i keep retrying them on the nose but nothing happens"
mircea_popescu: i shudder to think how many times the average toaster is rebooted on an average week of its average life in the average yonkers household.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> Jacob completed his secondary education in Moscow and thereafter studied at Tbilisi State Academy << i read "thereafter" as "therefore" and was very confused/amused for a minute
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But the future is clearly wifi panchos https://i.redd.it/4vsofdw11lc21.jpg
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Do you recall a bunch of loud electric taxi chargers near the intendencia? I forget when they showed up, but if you can offer a yes/no that shrinks the window
asciilifeform: did i, hm
BingoBoingo: Reads the big German philosophers and gets disappointed when I fail to turn the freedom trap I offer him with the Pric into a win
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun think i could resist the temptation . and whoknows, maybe yer schubert eats 1 too many magick pies that day , and loses
BingoBoingo: 1st is 1200 bucks, but I know if Shubert shows up I place lower than Shubert capping my ceiling
mircea_popescu: there's some serious fucking issues in the brainbox of the rettardit generation. why THE FUCK do they think i'll take their pompous bullshit seriously ? what fucking fine arts. it's a dodge.
BingoBoingo: Registration doesn't close until the 31st or they get enough paid interest. In the interim I'm mulling over the opportunity cost of the tournament versus a pupper versus more cheese.
mod6: I'll stake you if you wanna go and rub-elbows with these guys.
BingoBoingo: And no, I have no idea why they named it after urinal guy yet
BingoBoingo: But for prospecting I expect the Chess crowd would be more lucid than the stoners
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I have access to one of Uruguay's top players.
mod6: Ask some fellow republicans to play against you from time to time, I bet you'd find some takers.
BingoBoingo: As my ELO is well under the 2400 necessary for a fee waiver and free room I suspect the 60 USD would be better allocated to either a Daschund or cheese
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, i dunno if specifically should or shouldn't be included in mp-wp, but it's certainly there published to be coopted if useful.
asciilifeform: all i've got in re those is a few de-pdf'd artifacts, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884500 etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dunlike bitmapped maffs.
asciilifeform: i've very little photo at all ( on typical day, ~2GB total movement )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i went through the algo, to bake ffaistic proof of correctness, and get n - 1.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I even remember I did go with pen and paper precisely through this but I'd need to rummage through the old papers to find it again, ugh
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i suspect you're exactly on point.
diana_coman: right, I'm looking at it
diana_coman: i.e. which exact para in the book or wherever are you puzzled about
diana_coman: well yes; but I was struck by why this particular thing to latch on; perhaps "easiest" and the approved anti-whatever or something but anyways
diana_coman: perhaps a combination of "I'd much rather NOT have this responsibility so passing it to some abstract group/network HAS to be great" and "all people are ~same and X is a crook therefore all people are crooks therefore can't trust someone"
diana_coman: this "trustless" echoes some students' insistence that it's "better to not have to trust someone" - I couldn't quite get to the root of it
beetcoin: asciilifeform, of course we have to trust that our CPU isn't backdoored unless we start our own fabrication facility. Bitcoin isn't perfectly trustless because of that, i'm just saying it should be the goal of governance
mircea_popescu: no problem, i suppose for as long as they keep feeding you, you'll keep vegetating in yourself.
asciilifeform: i cannot resist to bite -- beetcoin , wtf is 'trustlessness' ?
beetcoin: i was never a big-blocker, idk if being perceived that way was the origin of our dispute in 2015
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-boundless-burden/#selection-139.48-139.184 which is to say "since i'm gonna get pinned down and have a parasite injected ~ANYWAY~, might as well blablablblabla" and so on.
asciilifeform: 'i have maffs phd, where do i go to maffs for moneys' 'hey we have this here opening... all you gotta do is shill for quantum-resistant philosopher's stones with boneh' 'where do i sign' etc
asciilifeform: i thought the notion being pushed is hilarious tho. 'who cares if yer litmus doesn't work on 561, it aint like you ever need to verify whether 561 is prime' etc
mircea_popescu: possibru. i dun recall right off...
asciilifeform: hm i must be thick.. what was the orig complaint about
mircea_popescu: but the orig piece is precisely that, i published the complaint.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i meant re the orig stolen trilema piece
mircea_popescu: (i mean, i realise in the us they aren't, but w/e, nobody really gives a shit about retardistan)
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'holy fuck, i thought we hit rock bottom but then heard a knock from below' lulz, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mcleod/index.html << 'professor of engineering' tries to argue in favour of old-fashioned , carmichaelizable primality litmus ~instead~ of m-r, on acct of the 'rarity of carmichael #s' . ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in any case, in 2011, as in 2001, as in 2021 i can say "academia romana keks" or http://trilema.com/2011/stimata-academie/ whatever ; but they can't say "trilema.com", because holy shit. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: which puts us in the following amusing relation : the romanian academy perceived that not only i'm the competition... but have the upper hand.
mircea_popescu: (romanian academy published a book in which it included the fraud complaint i issued against their at the time sitting head as "found on the Internet", an expression at the time famous in ro for being used by various derps)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh, but wait, in rokeks did you ever see http://trilema.com/2011/romania-cea-de-basm-partea-i/ ?
asciilifeform: tru. who, incidentally, is the current gavin? i admit, lost track, dun follow subj actively ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other mildly concerning news, i notice that there's a header-article relation developing. if there's naked girls ima pen a frisky article, if there's a serious doctoral mug ima pen a serios theoretic piece, yet i swear i have no idea at the onset (the box where i put things in dun load the header, for one). it's sheer coincidence, yet it seems to have held for the past 3 or 4 pieces!
mircea_popescu: thinking about it (since i have to, translation oblige), http://trilema.com/2016/the-chosen/ is probably the one claim to fame of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-23#1889542 item. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i shall trnaslate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you ever read http://trilema.com/2012/evolutia-onlinautului/ incidentally ? i suspect i should translate it, precisely explains (in a SEVEN year vintage piece) the problem with eg naggum's efforts, and other fundamental things.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I imagine they remain so the bombs can fly after Maduro sends the moving trucks
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/01/guts-ive-lost/ << The Whet -- Guts I've Lost
asciilifeform: incidentally, m-r liars seem to be closed under multiplication, but i have not proven.