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nubbins`: incidentally i tried a non-static build of openssl, auto.sh barfs w/ same error
nubbins`: asciilifeform his bedroom is being turned into a paper-printing studio
asciilifeform: nubbins`: he's got til the 30th << so you didn't need the money? or will replace him with a fresh idiot ?
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> "canot find -lssl, -lcrypto" << note! it finds the system's headers, like a moron, and builds with them, then notices no local ssl was built (it wasn't)
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> with "-std=c++03" from portatronic patch removed << might not actually make a difference
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 22:18:14; ascii_field: nubbins`: but even something like living in a dwelling without the company of strangers is a titanically expensive luxury in most of the world
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> because, y'know, if you lost your keys three days ago, you should come home drunk to a locked house at 3:30am ..with no plan << http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-04-2015#1083000 >> what do you suppose i was talking about.
nubbins`: you don't generate a public key from an email address, you generate it from a private key
assbot: 25 results for 'shamir' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shamir
funkenstein_: smells like cryptography as a service
asciilifeform: what a crock of shit!
asciilifeform: 'Identity-based encryption is a type of public-key encryption in which any arbitrary string (such as a user’s email address) can be used as a public key, enabling data to be protected without the need for long, randomly generated keys or certificates. Today, there are numerous standards for IBE based on Boneh’s work, including IEEE P1363.3 and several IETF RFCs.' << from the press release. ☟︎
asciilifeform: o practice has been rapid. Organizations now using pairings include healthcare, financial, and insurance institutions. Over a billion IBE-encrypted emails are sent each year.' << ahahahahahaha.
asciilifeform: 'Boneh, in joint work with Matt Franklin, constructed a novel pairing-based method for identity-based encryption (IBE), whereby a user's public identity, such as an email address, can function as the user's public key. Since then, Boneh's contributions, together with those of others, have shown the power and versatility of pairings, which are now used as a mainstream tool in cryptography. The transfer of pairings from theory t ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mod6: i thought everyone wanted to create a common gentoo configuration.
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mod6: yeah, what we need now is a build environment as discussed yesterday. or we really can't move forward.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 03:27:23; decimation: nubbins`: no that's a different issue, not critical
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 03:26:58; nubbins`: "glibc uses libnss to support a number of different providers for address resolution services. Unfortunately, you cannot statically link libnss, as exactly what providers it loads depends on the local system's configuration."
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assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 01:18:00; decimation: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2725255/create-statically-linked-binary-that-uses-getaddrinfo <glibc uses libnss to support a number of different providers for address resolution services. Unfortunately, you cannot statically link libnss, as exactly what providers it loads depends on the local system's configuration.
nubbins`: asciilifeform mod6 ben_vulpes and others: on a side note, auto.sh doesn't put the openssl headers in /ourlibs/
nubbins`: well, i'd like to believe this is all an illusion and i'll eventually wake up, my 16-year-old self, sweating through the mattress in a fever dream
nubbins`: the slightest twitch of a finger.
nubbins`: i.e. they care enough to share a link
nubbins`: golly gee, you shared a whole link on bookface?
mike_c: funkenstein_: blockchain sync progress on a SSD vs. 5400 rpm platters.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i guess we're technically two-and-a-half-dogland: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/labradoodle-marketing-fetches-2-500-puppy-price-1.3018419
nubbins`: or, since i am generally always home, pick a time when any normal person is precisely in the middle of a night's rest
Adlai: sounds like his plan was "pick a time when nubbins`'s probability density is most concentrated within the home"
nubbins`: because, y'know, if you lost your keys three days ago, you should come home drunk to a locked house at 3:30am
nubbins`: after a few minutes of this, my doorbell rings, so i go grab a chunk of wood to cave the guy's face in with
nubbins`: yep. INCREDIBLY WEIRD, this. a guy using tor.
mircea_popescu: "To view a downloaded movie, you double-click it. And then you're watching it. Stick a recent commercial DVD into your player, though, and you'll probably have to sit through lengthy, un-skippable warnings about how dastardly is the piracy in which you did not just engage."
mircea_popescu: how hard is it to reproduce a coil of wire with... another coil of wire!
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1083766 << this option is not unlike proving you didn't fuck a goat by proving you impregnated it.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 03:26:39; decimation: asciilifeform: one wonders what the openssl authors use as a 'baseline os'
asciilifeform: it is a mistake, to call them low hanging
decimation: yeah, the 60's were definitely a golden age of the hard sciences in the us
asciilifeform: contrary to popular image of rms, he was - at the time - the very example of a 'straight lace square'
asciilifeform: underground, behind a tunnel with multiple doors
decimation: because they were seen as a symbol of 'the man'
decimation: so there was a hunger to 'own' said machine
decimation: one of the reasons why the "PC" was such a success (as in the commodore, etc) was because many universities had taken to putting their computers behind a locked wall
decimation: you would still need many of those cards to hold a standard gpg key
decimation: that actually sounds pretty effective, assuming the listener didn't have a recorder
decimation: yeah it's kinda the magnetic equivalent of a bigass flywheel
decimation: heh even the russian version is a slightly more advanced 'enigma' machine http://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/fialka/m125_3/index.htm
decimation: apparently there was a 'russian-only' version of the machine: http://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/fialka/m125_3/rus.htm
asciilifeform: having a printed circuit in this machine at all was 'high tech'
decimation: was that one of your 'tiny pcbs in a tin'?
decimation: "The value of the dummy-load resistors is choosen carefully, so that they the circuit draws the same current as the solenoids. As a result, the PSU will not only supply a constant voltage, but will also consume a constant current" < this seems dubious on production units
asciilifeform: i see now that it was not a pass-through
asciilifeform: 'Although it may seem unnecessary, the data socket (marked МАШИНА II) must be connected, as otherwise the machine will not work. This is done to ensure the use of the TEMPEST feature (see below). ' << seems to imply that it was a straight pass-through
asciilifeform: funny how they gave a damn re: tempest on a fucking ROTOR CRYPTO MACHINE
decimation: heh it's not a particularly fancy circuit
decimation: the trouble is getting enough 'holes' on a reasonable size paper
decimation: well, the point is that a fairly rigorous device could be made
asciilifeform: ada, like lisp, is not a language. it is merely a kind of void left by removing retardation.
asciilifeform: though it would have made sense (bounds checking, etc. a la lisp machine)
decimation: asciilifeform: it strikes me that a handy product would be a little ada microcontroller with an implementation of rsa
decimation: nubbins`: no that's a different issue, not critical
nubbins`: "glibc uses libnss to support a number of different providers for address resolution services. Unfortunately, you cannot statically link libnss, as exactly what providers it loads depends on the local system's configuration."
decimation: asciilifeform: one wonders what the openssl authors use as a 'baseline os'
decimation: one could imagine killing an ant colony, but not all ants on a continent
mircea_popescu: the sheer fact of the b-a of the time made it. the usg follows in all dances. never yet lead, never will lead.
mircea_popescu: who wants to fuck with an ipad when there's a perfectly usable desktop ?
mircea_popescu: ". The deal, according to a "solicitation" document, would be worth $2.1 million — to the U.S. taxpayer, at least." << how to get 20k ipads for 100 bucks each ?
mircea_popescu: well... nothing is as strictly relevant to national security as a mining farm, factually speaking.
asciilifeform: if you built a miner, 'you didn't build that'
asciilifeform: list of who doesn't even consider it dekulakization - merely owner coming 'back' to take what is 'his', that he merely let you store in safekeeping for a spell.
asciilifeform: Coinbase Seeks 'Invasive' Details on US Bitcoin Mining Operations << this is, to use the 'manosphere' term of art, a 'shit test'
mircea_popescu: hm... check that out, actually it isn't. he has a "coming through a hole in the air", thing. and there's an excellent "the night comes on. it's very clam. i'd like to imagine my father was wrong..." very powerful verse somewhere else.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 02:24:41; asciilifeform: this is 'the hole through which the night walks in', to borrow a mircea_popescuism
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1083580 << it's a leonard cohenism.
mircea_popescu: usg doing a splendid job of getting the muppets do the "case da joint" work for free.
mircea_popescu: since bitcoin pulled the code AS IT WAS and built a chain on it, the optionsare :
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 02:21:46; asciilifeform: aha so now we have a local fork of openssl ?
nubbins`: i'm gonna give that a shit
assbot: It turns out the photo of 4-year-old Syrian girl surrendering to a camera is real, not faked. http://t.co/7Vw3MoGWGN http://t.co/RsiQhJWDPS
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I know openbsd has a plan for governance post-Theo. The exact plans are opaque to me. It would be abberant for Beck to naturally outlive Theo, but... known unknown
decimation: well, china has a relatively small core of 'managers', usg is really a headless beast
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 02:00:00; BingoBoingo: OpenBSD has been nice to me, but weird compared to linux and as a point that displeases MP poor fundraiser Bob Beck is in their WoT
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1083475 << really a minor point.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Snowden is not a person with Agency, yet he has handlers who are Agents.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Perhaps re-read http://cryptome.org/2015/03/snowden-cia-fraud.htm though beast has a dissciative mental disorder and this brave soul reporting suffers isolation the thread doesn't tear
asciilifeform: while not everything in the solar system 'comes from jupiter' - he has a say in what happens.
asciilifeform: (there is no private industry, in the traditional sense, in usg-dom. nothing larger than a hotdog stand, certainly.)
decimation: "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), a division of U.S. Homeland Security, said it would pull the plug on its 17,600 employee BlackBerrys and favor iPhones instead. The deal, according to a "solicitation" document, would be worth $2.1 million — to the U.S. taxpayer, at least."
asciilifeform: being a dept of usg
asciilifeform: you will never hear of northrop or lockheed losing a contract from failing to pass 'fips' etc
asciilifeform: the tests are a chump tax charged on folks peddling turdware to usg and friends
decimation: $19.95 I'm getting more comprehensive algorithm testing than I can for a five-figure sum with the FIPS algorithm tests."
decimation: "Compare this to the example I gave earlier of performing a TLS exchange with Amazon. This performs an in-depth test of all the crypto algorithms (corresponding to the FIPS algorithm tests, including ones that FIPS ignores), and the crypto mechanisms (many/most of which FIPS again ignores). In other words simply by connecting to Amazon using TLS and ordering a "Scrubs" DVD for
asciilifeform: this is 'the hole through which the night walks in', to borrow a mircea_popescuism ☟︎
decimation: this kinda 'works' when you are trying to keep a somewhat frozen baseline
BingoBoingo only gave chewing tobacco 3 weeks as a habit before returning to smoked tobacco
decimation: If you look at how redhat 'maintains' a baseline of code, you find that they pile up patches as shit breaks
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