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spyked: asciilifeform, what do you
think of minimal baremetal implementation of Lisp (RISC assembly only) on something like a MIPS core? I might be
thinking
this in
too abstract
terms, it's definitely not
that easy. but I'm
trying
to find a middle way between working FPGA Lisp machine and Lisp on unix.
☟︎ spyked: was
trying
to get a perspective on
things. I haven't dabbled in hardware since 3rd uni year (that was almost 8 years ago). and even
then... well, I got a lot
to learn.
spyked: ok, so
to sum up; 1. get ice40 fpga; 2. run fpga lisp machine (cadr?); work from
that
towards symbolics/ivory, or
the other way around starting from symbolics.
☟︎ spyked: although I'm expecting
the code
to have its own hacks
spyked: asciilifeform, yeha agreed. was wondering whether it's worth using
the virtual machine as a starting point.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 11:33 spyked: also, is
there any worth in
trying
to "physicalize"
the virtual lisp machine stuff? genera runs on
that from what I read.
deedbot: spyked rated mircea_popescu 4 << master of
three-lemmas, bludgeoner of sinners
spyked: !!rate mircea_popescu 4 master of
three-lemmas, bludgeoner of sinners
spyked: hey valentinbuza. you beat me
to /join-ing #trilema. :)
spyked: phf, slither.io is very similar
to agar.io, which was similarly addictive back in
the day. killed a lot of hours with it, so from
that perspective, definitely wouldn't recommend
trying it
jhvh1: spyked:
The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-20 01:23 mircea_popescu: !~later
tell spyked
http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/062-greenspan-assault-on-integrity.html <<
the problem with
this view is
that
the pantsuits correctly intuit
that all
the imbeciles
they enfranchised are sitll imbeciles. consequently it would be no harm
to a business' reputation
to sell
them iguanas on a stick and call it prime beef.
they will never know ; and casual perusal of
tardstalk "investor" as well as "community disc
spyked: !~later
tell mircea_popescu re
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-20#1701196 <-- yah, but does protecting
the "proles" from own stupidity even make any sense as a statement? sorta relates
to idea on
Trilema on whether
the empire wanted
to arrive
to
this point (can't find it right now). enfranchisement of
the stupid directly lead
to
that.
☝︎☟︎ spyked: also, is
there any worth in
trying
to "physicalize"
the virtual lisp machine stuff? genera runs on
that from what I read.
☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-20 00:51 asciilifeform: failing
this, could start with cadr and slowly backport bolix envir.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-19 23:57 phf: fwiw, if
the goal is
to put an existing lisp machine onto an fpga,
then i don't
think macivory is a particularly good
target.
the goal would be
to run Genera, which is severely lacking sources for critical components.
BingoBoingo: After
tomorrow's obligatory watching of dragon consuming sun.
mircea_popescu: griffith is against. matthau comments importantly
that "at least he has
the courage of his ignorance".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo amusingly,
the "welfare state" / entitlement program is actually discussed in
the film!
BingoBoingo: Serious petrofood stink with
those gas giants
BingoBoingo: Gas giants are what happens when you
take hamplanets
to Applebees
BingoBoingo: Anyways, obeasts don't have proper holes. Gravity and all
that.
BingoBoingo: They can't even bend
their own
to follow
the groupthink when
targeted for
the minute of hate
mircea_popescu: i
thought
that was
the whole slippery point of zher,
that
there's a hole not a line.
BingoBoingo: Well, zher democracy can't be
that serious if
they can't hold
the line
mircea_popescu: phf also worth bearing in mind
that point re introductions in
the rothbard series. people more recent
than
the author daring
to pen introductions are
the exact equivalents of herostratus ; and
to be
treated no better.
mircea_popescu: there was one major cultural power in
the
time uncultivated minds can furthest
think back
to, a
time whose murmurs come
to
them
through
the great-grandparents, and
that
time wasn't napoleon 3's paris. it was vienna.
phf: in other words i'm slowly discovering
that
there's life west of moscow, but before you hit berlin :o
phf: and
the introductions
to eliade's book don't go into apologism (unlike evola books, all
the english
translations require an mandatory disclaimer,
that he was a racist, but only a little!1)
phf: well,
tbh i only just learned
that
the
two knew each other. evola is mentioned in eliade's books, but only in connection
to his books on subj, like "the yoga of power" and his study of pali canon
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo sounds more like dood is
taking a (dramatic) vacation
than anything.
mircea_popescu: anyway, eliade's iron guard affiliations are very far from a little known fact. i'd wager more people know about
that
than ever read any of his books, let alone understood such.
mircea_popescu: phf fwiw, culianu was actually killed by
the national-socialist PCR (romanian communist party).
a111: Logged on 2017-08-20 23:50 phf: one, Ioan Culianu, who was in
turn killed in 91, some say over his criticism of romanian right, but of course we all know
that he was dispatched by
the occult interests over his research in
that field.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 03:05 phf: fare: "I'm all for supporting old implementations (we support Genera, furgossake), but
that's very different from supporting an old ASDF. ASDF was designed
to be self-upgradable precisely so
that
the way
to deal with an old ASDF is
to upgrade it."
phf: from "Change some defaults
to more reasonable values" attila-lendvai "the key bindings in
the connection list are currently very dangerous when using with production systems, e.g. killing
the connected lisp is bound
to a mere C-k."
phf: from "SBCL: use weak hashtables for
thread accounting" attila-lendvai "it's not backwards compatible with old SBCL versions, but SBCL has proper weak hashtable support for several years now"
phf: "Can we declare ASDF < 2.26 dead? Actually, if we can also declare 2.26 dead and say everyone has ASDF 3,
that's even better."
phf: fare: "I'm all for supporting old implementations (we support Genera, furgossake), but
that's very different from supporting an old ASDF. ASDF was designed
to be self-upgradable precisely so
that
the way
to deal with an old ASDF is
to upgrade it."
☟︎ phf: i went reading slime/swank pull request conversations on github (i know my mistake!) and it's all
the usual wreckers
there.
Birdman: ah yeah, did i request
that, i dont know why i would lol, its
the winners of
the hands i need
to de clutter
mike_c: it lists
the missing player(s)
Birdman: right now it lists
the players
that left right?
jhvh1: mike_c:
The operation succeeded.
mike_c: Uh, sure,
that's easy. Just for
the bad hands you mean?
Birdman: no
the amount but
the name
that one
mike_c: you mean fixing
the amounts? no, not with all
the corrupted numbers in
there
Birdman: but
this is still really helpful helpful, so no luck on listing
the hand winners ?
Birdman: yeah for some reason i
think it lists
the blind number instead of just what
the blind is.
that must have been
the one million and change blind posted
mike_c: asciilifeform - closed
turd client was necessary because I didn't
think
this would even work, and it was one
time
thing. so not worth investing
time in vs. spinning up VM and
then destroying it.
mike_c: But
that should get you
the hands you are interested in.
mike_c: I can't actually fix
the numbers for you, because
the numbers are wrong. Note in
the example how it says
the small blind was 1 million and change.
mike_c: This only identifies hands where someone put money in
the pot and wasn't in
the summary. Cuts it down
to 1,591 bad hands out of
the 300k
jhvh1: mike_c:
The operation succeeded.
mike_c: !~later
tell Birdman here's a new version:
phf: one, Ioan Culianu, who was in
turn killed in 91, some say over his criticism of romanian right, but of course we all know
that he was dispatched by
the occult interests over his research in
that field.
☟︎ phf: little known fact, mircea eliade was at some point a member of iron guard, and later
tried
to repent, mostly
to preserve his academic legitimacy. still some accuse him of peddling evolan party line under
the guise of legitimate scholarship. he was ousted by his own student
phf: that oglaf is apropos
thread above
mircea_popescu: r0nin- let's put it
this way : i'll
take an us author seriously ONLY AFTER he has underage porn on display somewhere.
mircea_popescu: it can't be
the opposite. not on amazon, not with
the stupid
title, not with
that schmuck from "culture wars" magazine hurr durr.
r0nin-: well i believe
the content is available off amazon
too
mircea_popescu: no. it is actually
trying
to bill itself as
the opposite.
r0nin-: its actually
the opposite
r0nin-: phf: i
thought dark enlightenment completely discredited itself, by
trying
to julius evola while neckbeard
mircea_popescu: r0nin- sure, about 50% of
the girls "think he's great" pre-enslavement.
mircea_popescu: that's
the extent of familiarity, i had
to review
the god-awful prose of
the interwar imbeciles as part of writing
the programme.
mircea_popescu: ah. i
tried
to (intellectually, and financially) sponsor
the "romanian new right".
they weren'tr capable of digestion.
BingoBoingo: Well, She isn't actually. She's part of
the environmental hazard
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, her solution is
to not leave
the house ?