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a111: Logged on 2019-01-17 06:41 mircea_popescu: The apparent murder of journalist Ahmed Divela is chilling. Ghana is recognized by many, including me, as a vibrant, strong democracy and an example for the continent in many ways. " meanwhile in related lulz.

a111: Logged on 2019-01-21 15:48 mircea_popescu: oh, and, of course : "Latest activity PetiteGoddess21 posted a journal entry on her profile titled “ill sell whatever you want”: about 10 hours ago I'll sell whatever you want ;) ( including videos, pics ,sexting, etc) if got all types of cloths for sale and request how you want them and how many days worn you want I'll also include a video of me playing in them , using them or anything else ... continue reading → "

mircea_popescu: linux kernel has a gash in itself, where "it gotta work with firmware" or "modules" or w/e the crap. 99+% percent of the time kernel crashed it wasn't the fucking kernel.

mircea_popescu: the fucking insanity, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-21#1882561 ; the particular apache running trilema has ~never~ crashed. nor do i expect it ever will ; nor can i conceive how the fuck "it's open to all comers on a net interface" can even begin to be equated with "it's facing me and my keyboard and that's all". you're not ~trying~ to fucking crash emacs, are you ? on the fucking contrary, which is the ~exact contrary~ of w ☝︎

asciilifeform: speaking of old maffs, turns out there's at least 11 classic proofs of fermat's 'little' theorem, incl. a combinatorial one.

asciilifeform: it aint a bug. the bug is in the brain of whoever installs that os, where there is no user-controlled wot mechanism.

asciilifeform: as for asciilifeform currently , sweating out a proper proof of correctness for m-r . ( subj of ch. 16 ). after that, will remain to add iteration to ffacalc; then , keccak.

a111: 2019-01-09 <phf> http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885092 << i have a couple and the first one i bought i think had that issue, i didn't bother replacing it, and after first cleaning i believe it went away, or possibly i stopped noticing. the one at my office definitely has clean clicks on all they keys, so if it bothers you perhaps worth replacing

asciilifeform: iirc phf attempted also to use it, to make a framebuffer driver in ada, but i dun recall if he ever returned with output

a111: Logged on 2019-01-21 00:07 asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's o(1) tx indexer ( will be welded to an experimental bdb once i get the mmap thing resolved ) there's a 2-level storage -- a 'write-once' o(1) index for blox of age N ( N can be 100-500 in practice ), and a much smaller rewritable one kept strictly in ram ( for 'recent' blox, where the longest chain is potentially movable )

asciilifeform: when i have a free hand or 2, i'ma apply diana_coman's published method to the thing and see whether cured.

asciilifeform: note that mmap is not a front burner item currently for asciilifeform - i dun need it in ffa, will come back to it after.

asciilifeform: i sawed on it for some weeks then, but only additional find was that any attempt at using controlled_limited from inside a static lib gave same effect.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: the breakage is documented in the linked thread. it ends up shitting out a reference to an undefined symbol ( of meaningless numeric name ) on which linker then chokes.

diana_coman: but so uhm, it builds with a main fine but it fails if you try to build it as a lib - why?

asciilifeform: a

diana_coman: hm; earlier I used "standalone" as "standalone lib" because there is such a thing: it means precisely that it includes ada run-time

asciilifeform: with a main

asciilifeform: it is actually a complete proggy, correct per the ada standard, but currently doesnt build on acct of the gnat bug described in the linked thread.

asciilifeform: ( 'the mmap thing', for thrd completeness, is described here - http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1873101 . a variant of 'horsecocks' without rampant pointerism.) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-10-26 02:14 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gnat bugs : apparently ( and this is documented or mentioned nowhere ) : it is impossible to have a Ada.Finalization.Limited_Controlled type ANYWHERE inside a static library, unless it is generic all the way down (i.e. if the lib package is generic, any sub-packages must also be instantiated as generics )

diana_coman: it was more of a confusion/mess rather than real problem as such ☟︎

diana_coman: yes! I can link it static, I can link it dynamically, I can even build it all as a monolithic piece

diana_coman: asciilifeform, kind of both ends at the same time because it's a communication protocol so..

diana_coman: aaaand in unrelated news: it's SNOWING! ha! england will soon stop to a halt for there is 1mm of snow on the ground!

diana_coman: quite; anyways, now that I have on eulora server c,cpp and ada together, it's a whole new level of madness

asciilifeform: verily. by ritchie's own words, c is moar of a macroassembler than prog lang in the customary sense of the term ☟︎

diana_coman: but I'm not even sure it's that really - more a sort of anti-tool in that it unloads complexity on the user to deal with rather than anything

asciilifeform: diana_coman: a proggy is an 'ideal object', almost anyffin, within obv limits of algo complexity is 'possible'. but in actual practice 'notation is worth 80+/-iq' and some notations make folx into effectively downs syndrome sufferers when the # of moving parts crosses certain threshold

diana_coman: C/CPP also known as "half a million"

asciilifeform: upstack to apache -- half a million loc of C is still half a million loc of C , even if by all appearances 'works solidly for yrs' ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( with a working gossipd -- the ordinary net becomes less interesting, can treat it as a lossy channel like radio.. )

a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 07:13 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889040 << this is entirely besides the point. yes with 256 mb it can serve more simultaneously than with 64, but that's all the difference. the fact that a larger engine puts out more torque than a smaller engine isn't proof positive of "something fundamentally wrong with carnot cycles"

a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 06:57 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: how does it cache the e.g. tB of rng i happen to generate in racked box in jp and dload via ssh ? << I will say that this does suggest .jp s a candidate for Pzarro rack 2 when that time comes

BingoBoingo: The world's a ham and this butcher's string is nitrocellulose. But forget the bang, the fact it can't hold tension is the pressing concern.

BingoBoingo: Not to mention Columbia.Nato.USG is a pop song, Vzla is south america, and Paraguay of all fucks is Mexico's competition for dubious honor of #1 weed exporter

mircea_popescu: the problem is, cartels not particularly impressed with usg these days. all was needed to keep assad in power was russia, but a colombia-venezuela-mexico wondertriangle is a lot easier defended. ☟︎

BingoBoingo suspects the speed of inter US ip traffic is as good a reason as any to route around US

mircea_popescu: "The only reason "high speed" connections to a "global" internet works at residential price points is because they don't have to." << keks.

BingoBoingo: Apparently -10 celcius which means nudity, second body, and a sleeping bag makes things survivable. Add butter to buy more time.

BingoBoingo: Seriously. If it wasn't a solo hike I'd rent out my body heat for a share of the patreon beta bucks

BingoBoingo: And when optimizing for torque you're going to make a Yamaha tw200 at some point where 1st gear can't safely be used on paved roads

a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 04:07 asciilifeform: briefly upstack to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889021 << possibly i'm thick, but it ~also~ never made sense to me why a ~router~ would fall down, either. seems like if yer pipe is e.g. 100mb/s , and incoming enemy crapola at 1000mb/s, then you simply oughta get (from pov of arbitrary test peer) 90% packet loss. rather than a smoking crater where router was.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889040 << this is entirely besides the point. yes with 256 mb it can serve more simultaneously than with 64, but that's all the difference. the fact that a larger engine puts out more torque than a smaller engine isn't proof positive of "something fundamentally wrong with carnot cycles" ☝︎☟︎

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: how does it cache the e.g. tB of rng i happen to generate in racked box in jp and dload via ssh ? << I will say that this does suggest .jp s a candidate for Pzarro rack 2 when that time comes ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-10-16 19:33 mircea_popescu: so your idea of how netflix works is that a bunch of couch dwelling "Criminology" majors queue up before a dc to be shown their inane shit on the dc's wall mounted display ?

BingoBoingo: But yes, to answer http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-16#1725706 Netflix and the handful of Youtube videos that get watched exactly work as a couch in local endpoint's DC or point of presence ☝︎

BingoBoingo would be VERY surprised if the netflix appliance takes more than 4U in a rack

BingoBoingo: FTR local mobile phone companies have been advertising Whatsapp gratis since before I arrived. They new point of competition is move up to a postpaid plan and get "netflix gratis"

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and no it aint a 'industrial' pipe, with asn etc. which is why i marvel, that it closely approximates one functionally, despite the cheap.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It doesn't, but at some point when you might choose to load lolcat, lolcat will be served from cache unless you proxy the lolcat request through Japan like a dick

BingoBoingo: Well, you've connected to IRC without a cloak before, yes? You don't have a personally assigned ASN nor do you get your 100 mbps from a drop at the local IX

asciilifeform: it's a subscription 'aol' neh

a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 03:00 mircea_popescu: and yes, a properly configured webserver serves at line speed, in the sense that the way to ddos is by overwhelming ~the router~ not the webserver.

asciilifeform: briefly upstack to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889021 << possibly i'm thick, but it ~also~ never made sense to me why a ~router~ would fall down, either. seems like if yer pipe is e.g. 100mb/s , and incoming enemy crapola at 1000mb/s, then you simply oughta get (from pov of arbitrary test peer) 90% packet loss. rather than a smoking crater where router was. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: subj aint a short-term urgent itch by any means. moar re general principle

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> assertion is, the cost of a processing job oughta 1) be calculable in advance of performing said job 2) depend only on ~said job~, rather than what else the machine happened to have done recently or may be doing concurrently with remaining cycles << This is a violin. We gotta get a lumber yard stocking something other than Spruce/pine/fir or we hit the sill plate problem.

asciilifeform: that way you can have something like civilized engineering calculation, rather than ' i dun know if i'll buy 3 kg of potato or 4, so let me bring a 50 tonne flatbed truck'

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I suspect I know where your point is going, but at this time we don't yet need a violin. We're still trying to sit in chairs without finding out ass navigating debris on its way to the ground.

asciilifeform: assertion is, the cost of a processing job oughta 1) be calculable in advance of performing said job 2) depend only on ~said job~, rather than what else the machine happened to have done recently or may be doing concurrently with remaining cycles

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the pt i was trying to make is possibly too subtle to readily make sense until i write a proggy around it, to illustrate. which sadly aint happening in near term.

BingoBoingo: Poking suggests otherwise. It's a reverse proxy. It can be deployed as a webserver and people deploy it as that, but it was designed around a different job.

BingoBoingo: Nginx is a sort of polyurethane "gorilla glue", very african. The details can be glossed over in a way that makes it appear very cool until pressure reveals a bunch of gaps have been filled up with exactly foam rubber.

BingoBoingo: After spending substantial time as a skeptic apache beats the "smarter" alternatives (lighttpd, nginx, cherokee, etc)to apache

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not nearly as serious a problem in apache as you seem to think.

mircea_popescu: i don't think there even exists a publication currently that manages 500 reader-days. period and full stop, the fucking bible doesn't get that.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my objection is to the prng element in apache and other heapistic proggies, where actual resource consumption is a function not only of req rate, but how much footprint of each one happened to be , fragging the heap

mircea_popescu: moreover, considering it takes 10 minutes or more to ~read~ an article and whatever, a second or less to actually load it, even being able to serve 1 request/s is fucking ample, each day you will have put out 600 day-reader worth of material.

mircea_popescu: i mean, pick a thoroughput you wish, build the box, that's what you get.

mircea_popescu: and otherwise, the server actually spits out in excess of 2k pageloads / s, as a matter of actuarial evidence.

asciilifeform: it really shouldnt require a n-fold overprovisioned machine tho.

mircea_popescu: and yes, a properly configured webserver serves at line speed, in the sense that the way to ddos is by overwhelming ~the router~ not the webserver. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: the cycles go 70-80% user / 10-15% system / etc whether there's 5 or 500 people asking for a page, it just doesn't figure into some sort of cycle economy

asciilifeform: i'll believe, will assume mircea_popescu actually tested with a lan-connected box requesting loads at gb/s or whichever. but to make this guarantee with apache and other heapistic softs, needs massive margin of iron

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a sane server oughta work at ~line~ rate

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing is roughly like trb - can throw iron at it until it eats the desired reqs/sec without shitting self. but, just as in trb, it's a barbaric/empirical ritual, quite impossible to say 'on napkin' how much cpu will yield what # of what kB pg served /sec w.out falling

mircea_popescu: it's not like microshit hired a different set of eggheads than populated slashdot.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the microshit people, innocent of opensores, did same, it's a c macula

asciilifeform: if the cycles aint there to serve a page or whatever op, then simply shouldnt ACK, that's it

mircea_popescu: a damn., wrong chan.

BingoBoingo: The intra language sound shifts can be a bitch.

mircea_popescu: and thus restaurated, we can then continue our readings of the morn! to wit : "You didn't talk like that before," said Dulcie plaintively. "I—I thought perhaps you'd be glad to see me. You were once. And—and—when you went away last you asked me to—to—kiss you, and I did, and I wish I hadn't. And you gave me a ginger[Pg 72] lozenge with your name written on it in lead pencil, and I gave you a cough-lozenge with mine;

mircea_popescu: plus, of course, a chardonnay, a zinfadel, something, preferably vienese style (crushed ice, mineral water, wine in equal parts)

mircea_popescu: to be served on a bed of lettuce ; on the side : smoked sprats and eggs overed easy with cayenne pepper.

mircea_popescu: in a bowl you flake smoked trout, with chunked : onion (red, raw), pickled gherkins (salt pickles, not vinegar "pickles"), artichoke ; add capers, fresh (or salt-pickled) tarragon leaf. the base cheese is something sweet (schweizer works fine in this instant example), the signatuer cheese is something sharp (here, a very fine camambert, but ideally, casu marzu, well ripe).

mircea_popescu: sooo... while the right-honourable ingredients involved sit for a moment in a bowl to make friends with each other, allow me to describe for posterity what is right and properly known as "the despration breakfast".

trinque: Mocky: nope, just people have been pinging me when they have a deposit, since running them is a human step.

Mocky: trinque is there anything wrong with my deposit from a week ago sunday? It seems not to have gone thru

asciilifeform: ( this is ~already~ a metre or whatever - sized sram ! )

asciilifeform: iirc we even had a 2014 thread, whole thing where machine shits the frame to the lcd at N hz, is retarded, framebuffer oughta live in the display

asciilifeform: it's a plague.

a111: Logged on 2019-01-21 00:27 asciilifeform: i had a 30k$ sgi 3d viewer thing, worked ok ( 1 part 50kg crt, other part went on yer head. ) point is that nao you can get ~same thing for 100. not that there's much in the way of people who are still doing any of this afaik.

asciilifeform: in the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-21#1888701 days, that crt was already the last 1 in the lab ( the headpiece was a lcd shutter, and demanded a 120hz display to output the left-right sequential frames. so had to crt. ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: i also thought there was in the l0gz a place where somebody measured it with 'soft' 3d and it gave 60+hz. ( can't seem to dig up tho )

mircea_popescu: most machines today have a vidcard for the whole rounded corners bs anyways.

asciilifeform: babbage 'жил, жив, будет жить', a la lenin.

mircea_popescu: in other euloraleaks, it seems self-evident that by the time we're done writing a kernel in ada, the os will be called auntoo, right.

mircea_popescu: do me a favour and watch the it, not the ru dialogues lol.

mircea_popescu: bette davis' last role, together with a decent it crew (mangano, sordi).

mircea_popescu: lol. such an inept habit this. even today, you know, download some film, discover it has a ru spoken track, that's it.