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pete_dushenski: crypto i get, but what's 'embedded' ?
pete_dushenski: airgapped i'm guessing https://twitter.com/airgapped is you ?
mircea_popescu: <airgapped> I'm in the wot < since when ?
airgapped: OK, so I need some help
airgapped: I'm in the wot
cazalla: ;;later tell bingoboingo enjoy :) i didn't end up drinking last night so no issues there
mircea_popescu: sorry i mean the pogo not the pi
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron more a case of "there's all these people who got pis because excitement, now have nothing to use them for", i thought,
mircea_popescu: i don't recall why we didn't like the pi for this purpoise, but it's in teh logs.
sjsqd: but I do find this channel and the websites/sources surrounding it interesting
sjsqd: I've just had quite a few things on at the moment, otherwise I would be a bit more active
sjsqd: yes I will I briefly read about it earlier
sjsqd: I'm pretty sure I tried another figure but yes you're correct it works now
sjsqd: I tried a few different options on my computer but got the same result
sjsqd: and I don't think I have redirects disabled
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: though i still insist that 'red' cryptomaterial should not touch the networked box
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i like PeterL's suggestion
asciilifeform: trinque: i'll be the last to disagree that it's still possible, today, to squeeze out a 'living' doing something in usa. question is how long it will remain true, for one's particular profession, for particular locale (do you like drilling for oil?), etc
trinque: along those lines I am really starting to consider moving back to TX
trinque: asciilifeform: sure; yet I think people forget millions can be made owning a chain of car washes
asciilifeform: i might exaggerate slightly, but at any rate it won't be accomplished by a fella with a day job. ☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: sure but that's hyperbolic compared to "I can attach this to a printer, card scanner, whatever, and it does what it is told"
trinque: I don't want help; I have my own businesses
trinque: for example if there was a tiny rasp-pi sized lisp machine, I think that'd be sellable
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I missed that window
asciilifeform: and i am specifically not speaking of mircea_popescu's favourite 'rescue animals', young gurlz
asciilifeform: trinque: there's a reason i used rocketry as the analogy
trinque: that seems foolish, though sure, I'm making my own moves aside from derping here
trinque: asciilifeform: I'd think there's enough talent right here to escape a gravity well
cazalla: the majority of movies are shit anyway so even if i had the time to watch them on the reg, they are not even worth pirating ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 16:54:35; danielpbarron: "Noticed the laptop was 'laggy' and then I saw the mysterious E in the taskbar. Blamed the kids again but then I saw the Utorrent update comments and bingo, me too," Ian notes. << people with children are pirating movies?
cazalla: danielpbarron, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1044264 <<< i've managed to watch maybe 2-3 movies from start to end since son was born.. maybe the guy's kids are older but that just seems to take even more free time away ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2014 04:19:50; asciilifeform: speaking of sewage, i recently had occasion to learn the details behind herr orlov's assertion that usa minus mains current will drown in own shit
danielpbarron: i'm probably in the *worst* place to be when this stuff goes down, although asciilifeform's locale doesn't sound very pleasant either ☟︎
trinque: I'm as good as dead no matter what I'm doing, given a long enough timeline
trinque: asciilifeform: ah, I agree that I'm probably dead
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm specifically addressing the fantasies of 'survive' rather than 'die with honour' (there'll be death of every kind available to all-comers, then)
danielpbarron: i don't think i'll be rich enough to bribe my way out until -after- it begins
trinque: I mean the cities wont be a risk to the rural areas after some period of starvation
danielpbarron: is it foolish to assume that I can bribe my way out of catastrophe?
PeterL: I was just trying to finish trinque's idea of hiding in the woods for 3 weeks
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't mean that I'd return to the city 3wks later
trinque: asciilifeform: I would want to know whether that was mostly a reaction after collapse, or something which people had in advance
trinque: I'd expect they were living off the state's teat mostly
trinque: I mean if we're headed back to the stone age, might as well eat a bullet in that situation
danielpbarron: i still have those gloves and hat. not gonna say it isn't high quality.
PeterL: danielpbarron: I imagine they have to import metal to make their farm implements, or are they doing mining and refining too?
danielpbarron: I once visited a false church community in waco, tx (no relation to that other thing) and they seemed capable of sustaining themselves independent of any supply lines. But maybe all the ground tilling was just for show -- I didn't stay there year-round; just for a week for their "harvest festival"
trinque: bitstein: nice! I lived there for years, grew up in houston
asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand, this isn't ru circa 1917, the hypothetical rebels don't 'just want to be left alone' - not one in ten thousand is able to grow anything edible without regular deliveries of petrol, pesticides, etc. ☟︎
trinque: I could see someone clever turning them into a far-right movement of some kind
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't think things have gotten bad enough yet for them, the rednecks
trinque: asciilifeform: I think people who never leave cities tend to forget how much weaponry is just outside
trinque: I don't see how national-scale weapons control could be implemented in the US
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this type of chumpatron has a name, though i'm blanking on what it was
trinque: I have a family member that's tagged for harassment at the border for political involvement in the 70s
asciilifeform: i found this odd enough to still wonder why
asciilifeform: PeterL: when i went to mircea_popescu's conference-2, had an attache of rng samples, which nobody at any of the borders was interested in so much as opening much less demanding to know how to plug them in
danielpbarron: "Noticed the laptop was 'laggy' and then I saw the mysterious E in the taskbar. Blamed the kids again but then I saw the Utorrent update comments and bingo, me too," Ian notes. << people with children are pirating movies? ☟︎
chetty: and I can't type either :/
chetty: although I have crossed boarders in last year a few times with no problems, I am always ready
mod6: i understand. i think the first objective will be to resolve that issue once we get the milestone "release" bundled up.
asciilifeform: i confess that i can't bring myself to run the thing that eats infinite memory, any more
mod6: i'll check back in tomorrow.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i drove the hog to the forest & turned it loose there. found it interesting how the beast had to be shaken out of the trap, wouldn't simply leave on its own
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:36:47; jurov: i'm trying to make do under some constraints, which i explained several time here
asciilifeform: i once caught a groundhog (marmota monax) in a zoological (cage) trap
mircea_popescu: i guess not really no.
mircea_popescu: i once found a fox leg in a bear trap.
asciilifeform: incidentally, i'm rather curious re: how a social animal (rat, wolf) would do in the bottle
asciilifeform: i'm quite unconvinced that the bird did
asciilifeform: mouse understands glass better than the bird (recall the bird film i posted? also persistent beast, also against glass!)
mircea_popescu: the time direction thing never stopped anyone from thinking "hey, i could have done better!" or be bitter about how things turned out etc.
mircea_popescu: another is the complexity problem. the simple fact that once the father has said "i know shit", if he opens his mouth enough to say as little as some basic math, he's now wrong.
mircea_popescu: hm. it was discussed but i think long long ago, pre searchable stuff.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2015#1043334 << it would not. godel problem / surprise executio nproblem manifested for your convenience as slippage i guess. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> and enron ruined pensions for everyone << if only. "My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to i
thestringpuller: "The F.I.N.D. Unit has made forty-eight (48) traffic stops that resulted in the detection of bulk cash smugglers."
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i kno rite?!?
trinque: yeah, I'm referring to a former friend of mine
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i don't get paid in benjies
thestringpuller: i'm doing just fine with my duffelbag full of cash here.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i don't even work at a place where they ask the question any more
asciilifeform: decimation: what made you think i have anything to withdraw ?
decimation: I was just looking at the 'mid-cap value' fund from vanguard
asciilifeform: good thing i don't expect to live to pension age
thestringpuller: this is how I imagined QE though, some d00d at Fed typing "FUNDS FUNDS FUNDS" over again on his computer.
asciilifeform: where i live, 40% is considered pretty good.
danielpbarron: i could never get everyone happy even when i used to glitch to get "MAXINT" currency units
thestringpuller: i would love to be taxed at 7%
adlai: i'm not sure the constructive uses of friction have any parallel either... beyond maybe as a cost of manipulation (when you don't control the tape)
mircea_popescu: "how the fuck am i supposed to do any scioence in here!111"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm sure the denizens liked it also. but as al said, 'first ecstasy, then laundry.' we're living with the results of '90s sv.
asciilifeform: if i were to learn that he made his nightclub seed money by executing contract hits, rather than at netscape, i'd like him considerably more
mircea_popescu: i may even go so far as to say i liked the 90s sv o.O
mircea_popescu: i liked the 90s!
asciilifeform: possibly because only fact i knew about him was him being involved in the dotcom bubble and being responsible for the steaming crock of shit that is netscape, and, by implication, the entire shit soup of www standards
asciilifeform: i have always had a mild dislike for jwz and was never able to articulate why
asciilifeform: 'On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.' ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the entire "i want government to just work by itself and let me to my affairs" has worked splendidly in the us, 70s to 2000s.