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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah,
that is always
the case, with
that max = 0.
mircea_popescu: the only case where
this happens is when
there's in fact
two language. such as in polygotism, or else argot-mainstream disjunctions.
THERE you can have orthogonality in language.
mircea_popescu: a language where ALL parts are orthogonal is entirely
the phone book, unable
to mean anything. i
thought
the contention was language where SOME parts are orthogonal.
mircea_popescu: and in short -- fucking up
this fundament of language convicts one
to solipsistic solitude.
mircea_popescu: also, we're stuck getting lucky with women, because we can't meaningfully
talk
to
them BEFORE we actually can
talk
to
them.
mircea_popescu: then we find it impossible
to
talk
to strangers as
the first symptom.
mircea_popescu: note
that i'm not saying ~your notion~ of up and left can't be orthogonal. of course
they can be, in fact
they'd better be. but
the WORDS
thatr denote
them, can't be, at least not while staying words.
mircea_popescu: but i
think
the point
transpires, if metaphorically :
the fundamental reason language even exists in any usable, useful form is
the rejection of orthogonality as a possibility.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform give me an example of
two items of language
that are orthogonal.
mircea_popescu: language as used by humans is actually predicated on
the impossibility of orthogonality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not really, because
there's no such
thing as orthogonality in natural language.
that's a property of a correctly constructed
theorem ("let it have no overlapping lemmas") and
therefore relevant in computing.
mircea_popescu: very much
throwback
to
the problem of "man is
that animal with flat nails" / "here's a chicken" issue
a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu:
this is how it manages
the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning
that latin-style
then has so much
trouble noting down.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL
THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of
the water - i know more words, and in
this knowledge i know all
the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
mircea_popescu: (who are borne out of
the interaction between
their stupid mothers and a weak language)
mircea_popescu: which brings back
the sad fact of
the matter :
there's no such
thing as a weak language ; only imbecile speakers
mircea_popescu: a fine example in
that very same paragraph : "I don't expect I've done" is very much different from
the "plain english" "equivalent" "I don't
think I've done" : as
there is no relation between expectation and reality, saying "i don't expect i've done" is a perfectly fine sendoff on a masterpiece. not same in
the case of
the latter
mircea_popescu: very direct measure of
the power of a language -- weak languages only have van der waals links and
thereby can't support complexity such as life
mircea_popescu: textual
tension is a measure of relation complexity per unit space.
shinohai: Defeat
the NSA with
this ONE COOL
TRICK <<< click here
mircea_popescu: modesty is good and well, as an solipsitic limit for
the self. it can not stand against others'
telling you
to make it.
mircea_popescu: i second
the blog idea. PeterL you have a healthy output phi, you should not leave it at
the mercy of archive-bot-saved-a-paste.
PeterL: just
thought you might be interested in seeing
the progress
PeterL: well, my next step was going
to be actual
testing, right now I just got it
to not have any compile errors! :)
trinque: it'll end up lost
to
the sands of wotpaste
trinque: hey PeterL, mind getting a blog
together and putting
this on it?
PeterL: ok, I will look forward
to your comments!
PeterL: Lane is a mod 2**64
type
PeterL: wait, bitness for which
type?
PeterL: keep in mind I am just learning ada as I do
this, I feel like
there might be a more efficient way
to do some of
the
things (like
the
type conversions)
mircea_popescu: in any case -- it is not
the job of columb
to make sense of
the new world.
mircea_popescu: why do you
think
that description you're
trying
to add
to it can possibly be made
to stick ?
mircea_popescu: there can be no further accomplishment
than
this, in
the sense of fundamental research.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it increases by one
the length of
the list of items god must maintain.
mircea_popescu: turd, like all others. whereas
the first petawatt laser IS, as a factual matter,
the first such laser ever built. for all we know -- every built anywhere in
the universe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there's, again, no obligation
to meaning for fundamental research.
that is still industrial research you're
thinking of.
mircea_popescu: these are, literally, items
that never before existed in
the strictest categorical sense.
mircea_popescu: you understand, it's not
that "this is a new model of spoon, we had spoons before but
this is just a different
take".
mircea_popescu: the former is physics,
the latter is math.
the building of items
THAT NEVER BEFORE EXISTED is a defensible activity
to a degree most others (spawning, doing art, including shakespeare, etcetera) are not.
mircea_popescu: let god judge his internal state, i care little past
the deeds.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i
think i said it before. and if i didn't, here it is again : curtis yarvin may be stupid, or else he may be evil, but in either case he's done more
to ruin his country
than quisling did
to ruin his.
mircea_popescu: useful
to implant "republic can never exist, socialism and government===society is all
there is" in
their stupid fucking heads,
then
they'll look at
trilema and "form
their own opinions" on
the side.
mircea_popescu: or else, guy very well preyed on
the substantial, idiotic naivite of esl
tards who had such nostalgy, and also very gullible.
mircea_popescu: except for
the part where "republic can never exist, socialism and government===society is all
there is".
a111: Logged on 2014-07-22 22:40 asciilifeform: carnegie mellon << 'Silicon Valley, unlike
their Victorian forebears, do not realize
that, if
they want all
this science,
they will actually have
to pay for it -
themselves. Instead,
they look at
their
tax forms and
think: I gave at
the office. But
they didn't.
They gave
to scientocracy. Now,
they need
to figure out how
to patronize science - or
there will be no science. Just scientific Bondo, sanded
to perfecti
mircea_popescu: this still doesn't change
the categories. it is not
the business of government
to pick up
the slack of facebook being intellectually bankrupt.
mircea_popescu: they'rte
the ones whining for relevancy. why
the fuck did zuckershithead spend 100bn on "instagram" or w/e random spamsite with "here's a number we printed on a webpage and we labeled it USERS!!!" instead ?
mircea_popescu: the criterion for fundamental research is "was it ever done before", and high energy particles meet it out of
the gate. ~nothing else does.
mircea_popescu: understand something :
the criterion for FUNDAMENTAL research is not "whether it's promising", in any sense or packaging.
that is
the criterion for INDUSTRIAL research, and let industry fucking do it.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 16:22 asciilifeform: 'So basically
the LIGO
team is admitting
to publishing a manipulated final result and no real exact means for anyone outside of
the LIGO project
to duplicate it. It also appears
the
team
tried
to bolster and perhaps even justify
their reporting of
this highly questionable second event by including a
third one
they had previously dismissed.'
mircea_popescu: i'm entirely unsure why
these
two items (string
theory ; high energy particles) are so strictly welded
together in your head.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 18:46 asciilifeform: whereas ACTUALLY promising, and wholly noncrackpotterious direction of particle physics -- induced beta decay -- is funded
to
the princely sum of..
a111: Logged on 2017-09-07 06:09 mircea_popescu: anyway, physics is only broke in
the us, and mostly because us is broke. euro physics is doing fine, spending about
the entire us welfare budget on
things like large lasers, ciclotrons and
the like.
mircea_popescu: say phf ! since you're in moscow, what's
the bdsm scene like ? do
they have a club ? mind doing a field report ?
☟︎☟︎ BingoBoingo: Nah
that was
the median 2010 price or something.
BingoBoingo: Dropping and rebounding, and what was
the high price in 2012?