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mircea_popescu: but don't you find that one's logically consistent whereas the other's logically inconsistent ?
phf: so while i think lack of bigendian will create immediate problems for people (e.g. no vdiff/vpatch on g5 machines for trinque, untill he patches it himself), i don't think it's not historically supported
mircea_popescu: obviously one could patch the eucrypt to work on his box if for some reason he wants to (though i can't imagine who'd be running eulora client of ppc machine, but anyways).
phf: he's saying he can't fix it with any of the published vdiff's since i haven't published anything yet
mircea_popescu: i didn't know phf published anyuthing yet ?
asciilifeform: and worse, i can't even readily think of a simple pill against this inbandism.
trinque: hasn't much to do with the endian, more to do with "amount of shit bolted to side" and "recent enough to do actual work upon"
asciilifeform: phf: phunphakt : ppc is one of the two currently-produced archs ( the other being arm ) that doesn't have constant-time MUL .
asciilifeform: very often 'too expensive' turns out -- isn't
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform would be an one-time thing. but hey, you get to see uruguay. it's jenuinely not bad, can go for a week, take pet on trip to bsas for a few days... the city is lovely if one doesn't mean to stay << Rocha, Cabo Polonia, and Colonia are all highly recommended by the vacationers
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform would be an one-time thing. but hey, you get to see uruguay. it's jenuinely not bad, can go for a week, take pet on trip to bsas for a few days... the city is lovely if one doesn't mean to stay
mircea_popescu: this is going to be a standard retort now, "shut up so-and-so, i bet you don't even understand hair theory!"
mircea_popescu: i couldn't have put it better myself.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-28#1777618 << the wisdom of this sinks in. can't fish for humans with shit for bait. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but i can't go that way after having specifically organized a painstaking and complex process to rule out teh comcasts.
trinque: at question wasn't the amount of money, but that two different answers came out of a vendor. I have dealt with many, many a credit card processor.
mircea_popescu: oh and btw -- if your expensive imported german car isn't rolling on tubed tyres, do try them on. it... it makes a fucking difference.
mircea_popescu: what i don't want is to leak 10x the sum to unrelated third party scammer-whores, ie whores that don't even strip.
mircea_popescu: i don't because i want them to have a vested interest in sucking my cock.
mircea_popescu: trinque i deliberately didn't want to hussle on the price ; i don't want THOSE $200. but it was understood.
mod6: lol, i didn't mean mine no. but i guess i could do that.
mircea_popescu: $900 writeoff for "expert" that didn;t as much as write on her tits, now $3k write-off for "month of pulling dick atop empty rack", the joys of business over here.
trinque: idea of this is nonsense. why don't I contract with latechco directly for a 1U if I have to do that
BingoBoingo: I haven't recieved it. I'm going to poke them again now.
asciilifeform: it's been a quarter century, can't recall how much gold speck...
asciilifeform: aha, it ain't so big
asciilifeform: it ain't retrofittable to trb imho, however. too many inoperable tumours in trb.
spyked: diana_coman: here's the output: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nlokl/?raw=true and the script I used http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/z0nep/?raw=true it would seem ngnix expects user agents to meet a particular spec (that I haven't figured out exactly) before delivering pages
diana_coman: hm, what was the error you got on that one that didn't work?
spyked: diana_coman, yeah, but your webserver is ultra-conservative on user agents. :) the one from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773164 didn't work, so I faked one from an existing browser, which eventually did the trick. (nb for whoever wants to craft xml-rpc requests manually) ☝︎
mod6: does your node use an SSD? mine doesn't and is @ 506042, and the net is @ 506402
shinohai: (Won't archive )
phf: "Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper www.hillelwayne.com"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: imho even a straight cleanroom clone of http://btcbase.org/patches wouldn't be entirely useless
trinque: we'll never know which is a nick reference and which isn't!
trinque: I don't see where I condemned
douchebag: "V. You could learn how to program correctly, such as for instance by writing your own Vvi implementation, or by standing up an irc botvii, or by following the excellent manuals produced by the Lordshipviii. Bear in mind that it is deemed unethical within the Republic to write code if you haven't actually learned how to write it first, and that orcs' claims to have taught you something often turn out
phf: i've seen the machinery work many times, though for some reason it reminded me of the case where it misfired, in a famous bit by feynman where he was cracking safes at los alamos, security resolution and the unexpected punchline is "don't let feynman near your safes"
phf: well, i didn't know if you were aware, and i can always fall back to the usual log "but tis was for the reader!"
phf: but, the intent wasn't actually "of course x is bad", we've had conversation about that elsewhere, this was a pure cause/purpose "you're fat" situation: that's literally how security theater propagates!
mircea_popescu: the problem is that illegitimacy crosses a definition boundry (it doesn't mean the same thing in boston wharf side and in african village) and so leaves us stranded.
phf: *don't knock
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm perhaps failing to find a point at which your analogy connects with the situation. i read it as "don't know on things that seem trivial"
phf: i don't know the puritan arguments against sluts
mircea_popescu: or maybe the chinese don't ship hay flavoured chips.
mircea_popescu: it's very solvable as stated, but not mechanically. "1. figure out v ; 2. press pehbot ; 3. say intelligent things about it." "intelligent according to whom ?" "intelligent according to me" "how am i supposed to cheat this ?!" "you aren't."
asciilifeform: just like if a d00d managed to sneak in and steal it, it ain't 'exploit for ffa' . etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's develop your picture. because it still isn't a complete one . because e.g. knowing the magicpacket for that particular box's nic, is not 'exploit for ffa', it is for $nic.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 05:04 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in girls alf won't like, http://78.media.tumblr.com/33cb28925c37b2cd04d9ff82a675d37d/tumblr_nh7rhnlD9v1qd7u7zo1_1280.jpg
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776698 << if alf don't wan em, i'll take em ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that wouldn't run js in the log page tho
douchebag: It could be URL encoded, so they wouldn't really be able to read anything
mircea_popescu: and yes ; but that doesn't make the luddite right in any meaningful sense
mircea_popescu: well, no, i mean something like "just because it has cogs in it doesn't mean it's a clock, could be a car transmission"
mircea_popescu: wants to fuck them himself, and what he can't fuck he kills.
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related lulz : there existed a cult which had the girls prostitute themselves for membership. (apparently it was tried with boys too, but it didn't pay.) eventually they just listed them as proper whores with "escort agencies". apparently a total of >quarter million men were made to feel religious however briefly during a decade.
mircea_popescu: well... didn't the problem appear misstated originally ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't expect it'd work mechanically ; but there it is now.
mircea_popescu: imo a fabulous textbook example of how the imperial vulnerability cycle goes. 1. make a bad spec, a la SMGL ; 2. implement some portions of it only, because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776189 ; 3. discover the bad spec is vulnerable, issue "best practices" for people to "santize". obviously this will not be made by 1 if 2 wasn't, so... 4) implement slightly more of the spec, throw security in disarray. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (because they didn't parse svg tags prior, not because "it doesn't work", he could have made it to work with plain script, so it's a separate issue, but quite germane)
mircea_popescu: note the epic lulz of how the "vulnerability" doesn't even work until you gert to ff version 30.
asciilifeform: it isn't , as it happens, particularly difficult to neuter js in pasteolade. but that's separate , imho, matter.
mircea_popescu: well which the fuck is it, and don't tell me "why mp! perl=bash=php=crap", it's not the point.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-13 19:00 phf: mats: well, i actually meant the opposite. classes of attacks can be eliminated by not using c. i think that majority of the attacks come from leaky abstractions. there's no <string> in c, but there's a null terminated memory region. there's no <sql> in perl, but there's a character array with sql text in it. one of the solutions is to plug abstraction holes on a level of the language, in such a way that you can't not use improved abstractions
mircea_popescu: say /msg nickserv register your_password your_email_address ; use a good password and an email you actually can read, they'll send you a verification thing. this way someone else can't steal your name.
emmylark: *and madames. don't wanna discriminate
douchebag: Don't feel bad, XSS is one of the most common vulnerabilities that exists on the majority of websites
douchebag: Oh yeah, javscript is great isn't it?
mircea_popescu: but you can't log into trilema.
trinque: guy's probably away for the night. why don't you drop him a gpggram on his paste site, link him to it here
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in girls alf won't like, http://78.media.tumblr.com/33cb28925c37b2cd04d9ff82a675d37d/tumblr_nh7rhnlD9v1qd7u7zo1_1280.jpg ☟︎
mircea_popescu: doesn't it ?
mircea_popescu: as the man said, "motherfucker, why didn't i think of that!"
mircea_popescu: so therefore... unsatisfied it doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: i'm satisfied it doesn't work and not happy with this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll admit to a curiosity to hear moar re 'unsatisfied that it doesn't work'
mod6: This goes for all Lords and Ladies too. If that wasn't obv.
mod6: I appreciate all your hard work / blood / sweat / tears on your trb adventure with deedbot. Your contributions are and will make a difference. This is why the republic is on top. We don't imagine the change we want to see in the world, WE MAKE THE CHANGE WE WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD.
mircea_popescu: to put it tersely, i'm unsatisfied it doesn't work.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 21:28 NoSatoshisHear: I worked on digital coin in 2001, but tried to find a non-net solution, and finally just gave up. When you head the wrong way, you don't get there. Still feel stupid for not buying in at $5, but I had no interest in Silk Road.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776463 << hey, i knew a guy who didn't finance (1980s!) porn ventures because "not interested in the loose women". bought "blue chip" fucking revlon and bs instead. i'm sure there's even today ossified mind going "i'm not into tmsr because i'm not interested in terrorism". hurr durr, you never know what things are really about. ☝︎
NoSatoshisHear: dudes, doesn't matter, was fun.
mircea_popescu: i don't think the fellow took your meaning.
asciilifeform: that didn't take long.
NoSatoshisHear: well per loper, I may have missed it, but I don't think that was covered in 1-8.
NoSatoshisHear: exactly. I don't have any idea. Yup, looked up lots of folx with real names. Not like I hide much either.
NoSatoshisHear: John Does down the stack... Pseudonymity is the way to go, don't hide, drown in excess data... Lol, go for it Palantir
mircea_popescu: honestly your coin idea isn't even bad, in theory. in practice it has a fundamental flaw. you see, bitcoin acts AS A CLOCK. this is its principal function. your thing has no clock.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776472 << and as to this, as you might've noticed, moving to mirc from freenode webirc hasn't helped all that much. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776348 << this is a much deeper problem anyway. emmylark chick is like "do you have a preference" re windows irc clients. i don't, i don't run windows. "what should i run ?" "err... we'll talk of this later, slut". which is fine, she's used to "you're too dumb to be told this story yet", EXCEPT in this case it's not her that's too dumb. ☝︎
trinque: isn't doing a thing for you other than whatever virtue signaling with the hackerkids
NoSatoshisHear: I worked on digital coin in 2001, but tried to find a non-net solution, and finally just gave up. When you head the wrong way, you don't get there. Still feel stupid for not buying in at $5, but I had no interest in Silk Road. ☟︎
asciilifeform: this wasn't an engineer decision, but board 'decision' ( in the sense that if board tried to decide 'no', intel would have simply been given a new board )
NoSatoshisHear: I'll be damned if they didn't put that bastard into my sacred north bridge! The intel management engine...
NoSatoshisHear: ffa, some cool stuff, making a braindead c one just cause I can learn better. Sure wish I could pour some fast multiply hardware, but don't know enough prolly.
asciilifeform: and for thread-completeness i gotta point out that 'Until the day Bitcoin mining uses up 50%+1 of all electricity generated on planet Earth, this theoretical avenue remains open, if very theoretical' isn't necessarily guaranteed : there always remains ( because Hashing Is Voodoo (tm) ! ) the possibility of discovering shortcut to the mining process ( we had the 'satcoin' thread; possibly other variations on the theme also )
mircea_popescu: i don't mean it was a historical event ; just as a counterfactual.
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : that was my only hypothesis. i haven't another.
mod6: if for some reason DC won't throw in a SSD, even if extra fee is paid, will find a new DC.
asciilifeform: ( dulap had ~ok trb performance on spinning rust, but it had striped raid . and STILL couldn't keep up with ssd zoolag, despite the latter being a box the size of my fist, with no raid, on residential fiber )