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mp_en_viaje: insanely obscure folk sicilian, while deeply irrelevant culturally, is still rewarding enough one wants
to figure out wtf is mp's quote maritari bs even about. meanwhile quite interesting culturally hungarian fails
to interest anyone -- and
this mostly because
terrible notation connotes horrible phonetic balance (which isn't even
the case)
mp_en_viaje: classical greek and
to a large degree republican latin appear so dignified because
the balance's good. modern italian similarly, have you heard a civilised older male speak italian ? it instantly connotes all
the
things anglos want and can
mp_en_viaje: but by and large, losing major lines is an unmitigated loss. english appears in no small part retarded because, phonetically, it utilizes poorly
the available spoace
mp_en_viaje: you can make slight movements,
turning everything an eight one way or
the other ; you can put more focus on labials or africates and less on velars of w/e.
mp_en_viaje: there's about six
to
twelve vowels and about eighteen
to
twenty-something consonants
that are naturally available in
the mouth
mp_en_viaje: the reason every balkan country mocked
the shit out of
the greeks
throughout late antiquity and middle ages was PRECISELY
their dropping of
the waw.
mp_en_viaje: and damn, now i can't find
the joke in
the log anymore ;/ "don't worry, itll fall off once it dries"
mp_en_viaje: talking of
the matter "in general", as of loss in principle, "he lost some shit off
the sole of
the boot" not at all
the same as loss of
the very boot. "but mp, where's
the shit end and
the boot begin ???" "shut it."
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 02:20:46 mp_en_viaje: speaking of
http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-02#940849 ; possibly
the best compressed illustration of "why ancient, what's wrong with modern" could be had reviewing
the phonetis of
hoi polloi. so : it was [hoi polloi] in
the ancient world, with gemminated l and everyting else good right and proper. it's... well, it's [i poˈli]
these days, because "do we stil
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 11:33:48 asciilifeform: not even clear
to me
that
the 'decay' is necessarily disaster -- do indo-european folx miss
the 15 declensions of finnish ? ( has e.g. 'into', 'out of', buncha other 'extras' cases )
mp_en_viaje: of course,
this can't happen if you have writing,
that'll preserve
the
two as distinct rather
than creatively merge
them
to save on memory space
mp_en_viaje: that'd be
the supernova : 1. go in, 2. kill all
the dudes 3. chain all
the women nude
to poles, let
the kids crawl out of
them come
to
terms with
the megalanguage.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 11:17:57 asciilifeform: has been slowly eating greeks for a while, and
the (sovok)
texts
take special care
to rub
this in, and asciilifeform finds interesting
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, what's
the problem with having a consonant equivalent upsilon ?
snsabot: Logged on 2018-01-07 09:46:50 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766211 <<
the classical j00z have
the 'past is moar important' jumpers set
to max: iirc
they have a 'the further we get from moses,
the moar of god-given wisdom is lost', i.e. nonrenewable resource.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 02:21:18 mp_en_viaje: modern greek "no longer needs"
the glottal stop h, nor does it use double-l's for anything, it's "progressed past
that, see". sounds like lazy dogs
talking, also, but
that's ok -- everyone's a dog anyway rite ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-04-03 15:41:03 mp_en_viaje: but anyway, what
the fuck is wrong with picking
the prestige coffee house of
the
town for your bitcoin meet ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 11:43:20 mircea_popescu: i specificalty recall describing
this situation in munchen whereby i
took cab driver all over bars,
trying
to find some with decent seating, didn't find any, at end dude was like "well,
there's no more left on
the list, you have
to sit here" and i was like "bitch, i dun have
to anything"
mp_en_viaje: anyone actually knew about
this all along / from before ?
mp_en_viaje: i an' uses it
to learn greek because reading
trilema's changed his life for
the better.
mp_en_viaje: occasional gems
in the celentano vein (played straight,
too!), like "The past year has been a year of failures for me. I failed
to persuade any of my old friends about any of my strongly held beliefs concerning morality, politics, and economics. Not only did I fail
to persuade
them, I failed
to maintain
them as friends." ; otherwise
apparently likes cha
mp_en_viaje: a no, actuaslly, it IS fracture. just cut up in
two footnotes.
BingoBoingo: I'm going
to grab some sleep and see if it shakes out any recollection of where
that may be hiding.
mp_en_viaje: there's
the
two liner above linked ;
there's another one line in a discussion of
another film. but i clearly remember
taking
the
time
to discuss
this over paragraphs, i just don't remember where
the fuck
mp_en_viaje: and
the annoying part is
that i can't apparently find now where i discussed in detail
the relationship between "noir" as
the form of cinematic expression and
the sadness of abandoned counterfit-urban male youth (not REALLY urban because
too new, like in new york).
mp_en_viaje: what
they do, "complex" and "inexplicable" as
they might like
to pretend it, nevertheless can be very well predicted on a decerebrated read of
the medieval catholics. basically calvin was
the original hollywood, writting really stupid
yet simple stories for a certain kind of [
http://trilema.com/2019/fracture/#footnote_1_ mp_en_viaje: they ~all are, actually.
their bizarro cvasi-religion, poorly formulated and even less considered, is for
these sins nevertheless very deeply implanted.
mp_en_viaje: actually, is my point here coming
through or do i have
to restate it ?
mp_en_viaje: if
the world came
to its senses, if i engaged
tards on
their own
terms, if parents lived
their lives such
that
they're comprehensible
to children, if china correctly saw
the incredible importance of ustarded delusions...
then maybe
they could write about it. but as it is ?!
mp_en_viaje: a
treasure
trove of prescriped goodness nobody inexplciably seems
to envy him. so what is
there
to write about ?
mp_en_viaje: he fucked a buncha crackwhores or w/e it is he did, he "had experiences".
that's
the important metaphisical, yes ? experiences ? having experienced ?
mp_en_viaje: so buck
the
tard built himself up
treasures in heaven as indicated by his self-disavowing pedestrian restatement of catolicism as some poor scottish farmers could best manage
to restate latin cancer.
mp_en_viaje: no but he had fun, see.
that's
the important part. "Do not store up for yourselves
treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where
thieves break in and steal." yes ? pile up
treasures in "heaven", which in
the anglican/protestant/derpitarian/whatever
tradition no longer means
the popish plot, of course, but still means something experimentially-ridiculous.
mp_en_viaje: so
they don't understand "how
the news relates
to
them"
mp_en_viaje: well for one
thing, it's an ~indepedent~ "corruption investigation" aka beheading.
the "only socialism
that could be" gets nothing from it
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje:
The outside outlets
that ought
to be hammering
this story are all incredibly silent in English.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, also highlights where
the gold supposedly in new york actually is.
mp_en_viaje: (except, of course, for cyprus,
this republica moldova slash sicily of
the greek world.
there, still geminated. )
mp_en_viaje: modern greek "no longer needs"
the glottal stop h, nor does it use double-l's for anything, it's "progressed past
that, see". sounds like lazy dogs
talking, also, but
that's ok -- everyone's a dog anyway rite ?
a111: Logged on 2014-12-02 00:25 gernika: Well, first I have
to learn Greek.
Then Latin.
mp_en_viaje: speaking of
http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-02#940849 ; possibly
the best compressed illustration of "why ancient, what's wrong with modern" could be had reviewing
the phonetis of
hoi polloi. so : it was [hoi polloi] in
the ancient world, with gemminated l and everyting else good right and proper. it's... well, it's [i poˈli]
these days, because "do we still have
to DO
th
☝︎ BingoBoingo: It also highlights how damn poor
the US is
mp_en_viaje: crime doesn't pay ; and working for
the socialists is
the capital crime.
mp_en_viaje: hoffa made out better
than
the entire pile-up of contemporary usgistani bureaucrats.
mp_en_viaje: nope. are you fucking kiddiong me, epic lulz like
"uaw investigation" revolve around piddly ~million~ spent on personal luxuries. what
the fuck, a mn worth of luxuries, really ? so like... a bathroom ?
BingoBoingo: With
their years in
the white house, senate, etc... Did
the Clintons pull better
than some mayor on
the other side of
the Pacific?
BingoBoingo: I find
the scale of
the China drama more humiliating for
the US
than anything else.
snsabot: asciilifeform:
time since my last reconnect : 0d 15h 0m
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 23:20:25 asciilifeform:
test of action line
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 23:20:25 asciilifeform:
test of action line
spyked: in other other news, /me has caught a minor cold and will administer some "leacuri babesti"
to
take care of himself. bbl
spyked: if anyone wants
to remove
this or
the cl-ppcre crap, will happily sign vpatch;
thing was written in my "CL childhood" years, so it comes with quite a bit of kludge