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mircea_popescu: not as they actually came.
asciilifeform: ( back when it has 'business model' other than simple 'tbtf' usgonics )
mircea_popescu: email interoperation is from a time in the 2020s as they appeared to come in 1980s.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:43 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719932 << pretty sure yahoo mail actually sells inbox access to spammers, message keywords and all.
asciilifeform: lol aolism then
mircea_popescu: what are you, like from the future ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nfi but ain't it an emailtron, can't other types speak with it..?
asciilifeform: and pama suxx, though i've only set foot into/out of plane there, it has humidity like dc, and presumably year round
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719932 << lol didja also neglect the scorpion pit and the nuke waste drums ?
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719945 << felt a lot more like I was *in* the nuke waste drum! panama sux ftr, no idea why anyone outside of maaaaybe overspecialized ornithologists profess to like it. anyway, i have a yahoo account so other people don't have to. zero endorsements intended. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "Since 2006, we’ve used the services of a third-party company to offer domain registration. That worked out really well for many years. Then, in 2014, that company was acquired by another, much larger, company. Its new parent owns a large number of other hosting companies that compete directly with us." <<< heh. i suspect it's exactly http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-regist
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:03 asciilifeform: ( recall , mircea_popescu , the angry answer from d00d, 'we will never', etc. ? )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719943 << scarce consolation, so he yielded on btc so as to not yield on "must be in trilema" anyway ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 01:57 asciilifeform: meanwhile in ddosistan, https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2017/09/25/significant-pricing-updates-are-coming-soon << lulzy 'ugh, that thing for which we were famous ? can't do no moar, and hey wouldja like to pay 5x more for less'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719939 << pretty much 100% of present day "us tech" "industree" etc is built on bait and switch. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: iirc this was even broken on ro trilema at some ancient point, to usual chorus of "but what proof do you have this proof you have is proofing" and other theguardianisms. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 00:38 hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719932 << pretty sure yahoo mail actually sells inbox access to spammers, message keywords and all. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: just omits a pipe separating the last two nils
trinque: formatting goof in there? I'll take a look
mod6: ah, ok thx.
trinque: nope, node remains at that IP.
mod6: trinque: do i need to change the one listed here then? http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 06:21 trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/akPqa/?raw=true << The IP address for deedbot.org and wot.deedbot.org shall be 45.32.123.240 from block 487154 until further notice.
mircea_popescu: phf that it only gives from the later parameter
mircea_popescu: http://deedbot.org/deed-487885-4.txt << is this supposed to be 404 trinque ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 00:38 hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719932 << lol didja also neglect the scorpion pit and the nuke waste drums ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( lol stike the nooseitem re their btc: -- is circa 2015. )
asciilifeform: ( recall , mircea_popescu , the angry answer from d00d, 'we will never', etc. ? ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: though on upside they take btc nao...
asciilifeform: '“Who should have to pay for protection from DDOS attacks?” is a trick question. No one should. Period. Because DDOS attacks shouldn’t happen. They definitely shouldn’t be several orders of magnitude easier and cheaper to launch than they are to defend against. But “should” and “is” are miles apart, and we have to take the world as it is, not as it should be. So who does have to pay for protection from DDOS attacks? E
asciilifeform: meanwhile in ddosistan, https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2017/09/25/significant-pricing-updates-are-coming-soon << lulzy 'ugh, that thing for which we were famous ? can't do no moar, and hey wouldja like to pay 5x more for less' ☟︎
lobbes: heh meta-phishing. "Learn to spot phishing attempts. Click here for 10 great examples!1!"
hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!) ☟︎☟︎
mod6: you can also do things like: `apt-cache search yourstringhere`
ag3nt_zer0: shinohai strange.. "apt-get install core-utils" yields same "E: unable to locate package"
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6, diana_coman , whoever else was tuned in for ffa ^^^ latest . << got it, thanks!
mod6: they'll prolly try
ag3nt_zer0: looking at this vegas shit...
ag3nt_zer0: apt-cache search got it! ty
ag3nt_zer0: same man... been workin a bunch thats about it
shinohai: General rule is when getting a "E: Unable to locate package" msg in Ubuntu/Deb is to do an apt-cache search for said package.
ag3nt_zer0: ok will try that
ag3nt_zer0: yeah hmmm as i went through the required stuff listed on trb node setup page, all of them said "______ is already the newest version"... all except the sha512sum
shinohai: That sgould be included in the core-utils package
ag3nt_zer0: following the guide for trb node creation, in making sure i have correct packages and binaries, seems everything is fine but "sha512sum" read package lists, built dep. tree, read state info, and then says: E: Unable to locate package sha512sum - is this going to create problems and if so how might i fix?
ag3nt_zer0: hello trilema
jhvh1: cruciform: The operation succeeded.
cruciform: !~later tell danielpbarron FGs arrived - tyvm!
phf: also can definitely add notfrom: i almost think it should be there already as exclude or filter or somesuch
mircea_popescu: diana_coman nah that's bash semantically meaningful
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with having both `stalin and `cтaлин if anyone can be arsed with that.
asciilifeform can think of a few
asciilifeform: make a case for needing 8 in a tag ?
mircea_popescu: this is convenient seeing how not having to terminate is a + imo
asciilifeform: so proposed formula is, ` initiates, any non- A-Za-z character, breaks , a tag.
asciilifeform: ( that road leads to livejournal. )
asciilifeform: imho modifier does not belong in a tag.
asciilifeform: so `ffa-tronic resolves to ffa
mircea_popescu: so then `ffa`-tronic not `ffa-tronic`
asciilifeform: re the separators, imho only whole alpha words oughta be tags
mircea_popescu: i suppose the from:x is directly suited for this
asciilifeform: failing to use correct syntax is own punishment -- you later have to sit like asciilifeform and answer q's re old threads that instead machine could've been answering
mircea_popescu: what do we do to people who spam it ? and most importantly, how ?
mircea_popescu: but the former is strictly correct
asciilifeform: imho ideally the latter.
mircea_popescu: so then is `ffa`-tronic or `ffa-tronic` ?
asciilifeform: oh hey backtick lookin' to be the champ
mircea_popescu: seems that way dunnit.
davout: this is going to end up in #trilema reinventing the semantic web
mircea_popescu: davout something i can type plox ty.
asciilifeform: davout: if ç then just as well ы
mircea_popescu: though that means fucking and.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-01 03:31 elaineo: @mircea_popescu having never worked in finance, i suppose i'll take your word for it, for now
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-01#1718993 << turns out noobs tend to paste it in ☝︎
asciilifeform: the @ thing is imho the Right Thing tho
mircea_popescu: destroys the whole flow of typed text.
mircea_popescu: yeah, demanding anchors for our irc clients is tempting (i know many times i want to give my words as trilema refs directly, like say above cuban), but i suspect not so smart.
asciilifeform: esp. if i want to mention >1 tag
asciilifeform: imho it is much easier on human eye to say, e.g., @ffa
trinque: then it's both in the logs, and the logger can do something interesting with it, if it can.
trinque: possibly the thing is a standard log reference format, path part of the URL. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02?l=1719816&re=logging
asciilifeform: let there be 1 text.
asciilifeform: 'in-house' annotations that will fall off the net if a particular logviewtron dies, are imho the Wrong Thing.
asciilifeform: i'm not currently sold that it is great idea. but there might not be a better one.
trinque: lol, nah, that does make sense.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-02 20:06 trinque: or what of the ancient logs
asciilifeform: say i want to 'infect' the line http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719816 , now if i include @ffa it will apply likewise to it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: 1 possibility is to make annotation 'contagious', sorta like phf's back-arrows
trinque: or what of the ancient logs ☟︎
asciilifeform: if it dun belong in the logs, it possibly dun belong anywhere
trinque: how are you going to go back and annotate once a conversation diverges into an interesting topic
trinque: it's in no way self-evident that this MUST BE IN LOGS
asciilifeform: it and only it, is the canonical material.
asciilifeform: the raw text is the only thing all logtrons ( and viewers elsewhere ) automatically get in sync
asciilifeform: trinque: why would you want to annotate out of band ?!!
trinque: asciilifeform: can totally work as a separate datastructure from logs, or in-band.
mircea_popescu: but turn it as you will, auctorial adnotation is very hard to beat.
mircea_popescu: trinque amusingly hanbot was working on something in this vein