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mircea_popescu: this was reported (via the entirely irrelevant "sources" of talbot, beshloss & co) as "the agitation of stalinist tirant" at warsaw, "unhappy with the us-euro offensive to liquidate communism".
mircea_popescu: he wrote bucharest a general letter about it, proposing to explain what happened on the 4th. ceausescu responded that unless they have a private meeting he's not coming altogether.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a pile of disinfo and general crap surrounding the events. as an example : on 2-3 dec gorbachev hung out with bush on a soviet ship. on 4th, there was the wasaw pact meeting. gorbachev was well excited of whatever, the new bulgarian (mladenov, his college pal) and generally the western press coverage.
mircea_popescu: (because of reasons discussed in http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-ideal-social-systems-reprint/ socialisms can't have categorical terms, defined in the normal manner, but must always include the ethical color of all words in the words. so "movement" becomes either provocation (bad) or progres (good) and so following for everything, stalin's cup is named by a different cupword than hitler's self-same identical cup) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ("provocation", in ourdemocracy lingo of the time, is what you called enemy maneuvers.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, it's a great postmodern moment you know, failed mangod and his broken phoneline to reality. "hello ? hello ? *mutters under breath* this is a provocation"
shinohai: ^ I heard the above was edited by sjw on Google translate. It used to be "Take a look at the nigger"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol is that the sniper-roof
shinohai: !~translate so to en oogi boogi nigga nigger
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTTVfid33yY << the well publicized moment of "wtf is going on here" with rando politruk going "silence silence" in the background.
mircea_popescu: still, how man faces death is a hard to paper over factor.
asciilifeform: rather than bravery
asciilifeform: in ru sphere it often is chalked up to the proverbial 'дедушка старый - ему всё равно'
mircea_popescu: he was, however, fundamentally brave, in that what he told teh us style "judges" at his "trial" was that he'd much rather be dead.
mircea_popescu: ceausescu was not a gallant sort of brave fellow. during a 1977 miners' revolt (they beat up the commie locals etc) he went there and very much shat it.
mircea_popescu: but you need the array to do that.
mircea_popescu: anyway. classical ceausescu regime "demonstrations" were organised very much on the ddr bank model, where you could eventually find the address of every single byte.
asciilifeform: why would fuhrer deliberately omit the paperwork
mircea_popescu: ating in most homes) a list of easements, the chief buttress of which being an extra 100 lei allowed to pregnant mothers (about 1 dollar in black market rates of the time). then the people were dismissed, and they started to leave, but for some entirely to this day unknown reason they were called back. except, they DIDNT go back in order, which means the politruks didn't know who's who.
mircea_popescu: also fellow misrepresents the failure of the 1989 bucharest meeting. the events flew more or less thus : timisoara rebelled, ceausescu verbally ordered armed repression, on the basis of some discussion, but (most likely deliberately) omitted to actually issue the proper paperwork. the war minister killed himself. ceausescu ordered a meeting organised in bucharest, to announce (in the dead of a bitter winter, without proper he
asciilifeform went on a tr kick and noticed that dulap is a turkish, i.e. dolap ( crate )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr it was in plenum of the parliament thingee.
mircea_popescu: (cac in romanian being, obviously, off the caco cacare latin root)
a111: Logged on 2015-11-21 18:55 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw ever told you the joke of the muscovite trying to take a shit in bucharest ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-21#1329338 << guess what, it's in the logs. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: is the kak ?!?! tot acolo joke rendered ?
mircea_popescu: why the hell not, the girls are worth the trouble. brb.
mircea_popescu: I suppose i could do a phonetics of this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's www 'cheats' by omitting the orc letterz
asciilifeform: apparently that easy huh
mircea_popescu: if you can read the list so it sounds like a poem, your romanian pronounciation is probably acceptable.
mircea_popescu: oh, and in random romanian learnings of today, http://trilema.com/2010/care-sunt-iq-tau/
mircea_popescu: phf hand mollifies in solitude. to toughen must expose.
phf: i've started writing blog posts to "toughen my hand", but it's rough going, i'll add it to the list of things to write about
mircea_popescu: " “The Saudi’s will not be able to link the S-400 with Saudi’s current (US and Europe-sourced) infrastructure, nor will they be able to connect the S-400 with US systems." << says who the everloving fuck. ☟︎☟︎
spyked: phf ty for lisp in small pieces reference. will look through it.
mircea_popescu: phf if you had a blog and time you could sit down to do the whole discussion of that so as to inform future policymaking above and beyond simple amoebic continuation.
phf: fwiw all our production lisp runs on sbcl, including btcbase. as much as i'm pimping cmucl, it's not "modern" enough to host a website on unix. i still think it's a better target for a hypothetical on the iron common lisp
mircea_popescu: possibly worth linking the s400 thing : https://breakingdefense.com/2017/10/saudis-rock-us-alliance-say-theyll-buy-russias-top-plane-killer-s-400/
phf: spyked: keep in mind that all the lispers here are common lisp programmers, so a ~practical~ scripting lisp would be LISP-family themed, rather than an explicit scheme. that's my personal experience with trying to get useful things out of shiva: having to write a bunch of "missing" hyperspec functions. asciilifeform said something similar in the past
mircea_popescu: https://llk.media.mit.edu/papers/archive/decentralized/ if you care for some reason. typical mit ocean-toeing.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-sexy-problem-formalized/ << Trilema - The sexy problem, formalized
mircea_popescu: that'd be the point now wouldn't it.
mircea_popescu: in other fucking lulz : http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Paper/1285929.aspx (original title was "beyond the centralized mindset")
spyked: anyway, I have much of Scheme in head. I'm looking at tinyscheme mostly to figure out what "subset of r5rs" they've implemented. though I'm expecting tinyscheme subset isn't necessarily the same as tmsr-needed subset.
phf: spyked: i'd also recommend staying away from continuations, they are a cute hack and flow out of some of the classical scheme interpreter designs (i.e. CPS transform), but they are not very useful in production. instead i'd go for a tagbody that gets compiled to a bunch of jmps. in practice tagbody solves 99% of cont problems
spyked is going through Kogge's book at the moment, incidentally. much lower level, but it should help on Lisp internals.
phf: spyked: r5rs and tinyscheme are not the right places to start on the other, non-ada end, i'd recommend looking at lisp in small pieces. you can tease out the theory out of tinyscheme, but it's definitely easier not to get bogged on accidentals if you start from theory ☟︎
asciilifeform: neato spyked . keep in mind that you gotta use the ada subset displayed in ffa.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-05 02:17 asciilifeform: however it would very conspicuously rock , imho, if one of you folx did this, instead of waiting.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1720982 <-- considering this as a "learn Ada" project. will share code once I have minimum item worth of showing (processing r5rs and tinyscheme meanwhile) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: assistence went "you don't remember esr ?" and i went "what would i remember him for ?" and they went "is this a bit ?"
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 13:27 mircea_popescu sits here trying to remember the name of the irrelevant dork with the guns. after a while the best lead i have is "hacker lexicon" was it ? google produces nothing but wired crap ; if treated with a -wired sprinking, suddenly catb.org "jargon file" is top result.
mircea_popescu: somethinglike that.
spyked: ty for explanation, mircea_popescu. oddly, it seems there's no strong etymological relation between the two. (ripe's related to reap, rape; rife, just Germanic for abundancy?)
mircea_popescu: and for that matter rife, as in "rife with fleas" is how english says "full of low hanging fruit".
mircea_popescu: spyked ok, but there's no such thing as "ripe with".
mircea_popescu: oh, to try and parasitize google-reality ? just like any other zynga facebookism ? awww..
mircea_popescu sits here trying to remember the name of the irrelevant dork with the guns. after a while the best lead i have is "hacker lexicon" was it ? google produces nothing but wired crap ; if treated with a -wired sprinking, suddenly catb.org "jargon file" is top result. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-05 00:12 ben_vulpes: > Finally, we abuse Intel SGX to hide the attack entirely from the user and the operating system, making any inspection or detection of the attack infeasible.
spyked: speaking of cloud: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1720904 <-- lulz. SGX is ripe with side channels. progz can leak data through page faults (and any other "exceptional" interaction with OS, basically). ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf i dun think they got off cloudflare tbh, this looks like exactly the sort of crap.
spyked: dig through Google DNS: 91.235.136.108; dig through romtelecom DNS: 91.228.152.189; so yeah, mircea_popescu might be on to something here. spyed flushes dns caches.
mircea_popescu: this dns thing...
phf: because the ip address is russian, but registered to a u.k hosting provider, redcentric
spyked: phf, nope. ro. so... let's try some more dns servers.
mircea_popescu: that 94 thing isn't anywhere.
mircea_popescu: phf i see the same ip as you do.
phf: odd, that last one is russian, "ooo fishnet" :)
spyked: in hosts, the one you mentioned (195.123.218.180), while host archive.is returns 94.242.57.138
phf: my specific ip was a cloudflare ip 104.28.25.2. current dig for archive.is resolves to 195.123.218.180, which is a netherlands "mobicom ltd" range. i suspect that archive.is took themselves off cloudflare in the last some months, so now i'm hitting cloudflare proxy servers and they are complaining that the host: is no longer served
spyked: ftr, I have archive.is in hostsfile with a different IP than the one currently returned by DNS, and not getting a cloudflare page.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so you had a specific ip, which used to work, but now they changed it and instead of failing they self-advertise ?
phf: it was confusing because i was getting legitimate cloudflare issues all the while i was in russia. now i wonder if it's some dns "firewall" propagation issue
phf: well, i've been getting that error for the past two months. while there was still a heavy archive.is exchange in the logs, os i thought it's something to do with russia. i'm still getting it in u.s. though :o
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For the joy of seeing an underlinked classic load. http://trilema.com/2014/gotta-love-that-negro-speak/
phf: "You've requested a page on a website (archive.is) that is on the Cloudflare network. Cloudflare is currently not routing the requested domain (archive.is). There are two potential causes of this:"
BingoBoingo: phf: It is working at the moment
phf: BingoBoingo: is that archive.is link working for you? i've been getting routing resolution errors from cloudflare, pretty consistently part few months
spyked: mircea_popescu, I'm not sure how I would evaluate it other than by looking at the "boy has no aspirations of his own; boy meets girl; boy gets in trouble; boy gets face stomped by boot" trope that's repeated throughout dystopian novels; there's probably more to it than that, but if there is, I'm not equipped with the literary baggage to see it. Orwell is fashionable nowadays because pantsuit equates Trump with big brother, and... so
phf: nope, it was started by john tye, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/meet-john-tye-the-kinder-gentler-and-by-the-book-whistleblower/. i suppose he should be classified as a chair shuffler
BingoBoingo: From the "Why not make the trilema re-read of the now a surprise files" https://archive.is/pPEfc
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 02:02 asciilifeform: in other lullies, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/nsawagenhoneypot.jpg << found on washington metro train today
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722496 << heh i was marveling at the same ad couple of days ago, which i assume means they are all over the trains. i wonder if it's sunlight foundation project ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i would agree that zamyatin is a brilliant pamphleteer and an interesting ethnological/"historical" source.
mircea_popescu: you see some value in this ?
mircea_popescu: there's a petulent dork going about on twitter about he "wrote about bitcoin before it was cool". i suspect the whole "cypherpunk" group of kanzure s secretly hold the same belief, that they're relevant through their failure.
mircea_popescu: i guess the argument could be made, but what's it pay ?
mircea_popescu: and for that matter how is pulp fiction part of literature now.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 13:34 mircea_popescu: even exists in early anglo stuff, christ resurrector, christ almighty etc. though the vein exhausted itself readily and apparently without leaving much trace. i guess in the same way "everyone" knows of bedwetter's 1984 but nobody read point counterpoint, notwithstanding that huxley is the important kid in that class, not fucking blair.
spyked: http://www.220.ro/umor-romanesc/Horatiu-Malaele-2-Vaci/nUSRHOCJEP/ <-- ro. only, unfortunately; also buried under piles of shitads, but I salvaged the videofile. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: spyked probably the peak of his work huh ? see if you get that gherman fellow to read it once you translate it!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-01 04:06 mircea_popescu: "If pet food companies used the same business model as startups: Jim creates a dog food factory and gives away dog food for free. 450 million dogs line up for free dog food. Purina Dog Chow understands that non-paying dog food consumers are currency, and buys Jim’s factory for $42 per dog." << in other historical elaineo lulz.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-01#1719047 <-- lol! this reminds me of a horatiu malaele piece (Romanian actor/comedian), "doua vaci". wait, it was on the interwebz (I should translate it anyway at some point) ☝︎
spyked: (read through the old newspapers at some point. I think it was through Trilema piece?)
spyked: yeah, thought this is probably the case
mircea_popescu: you take my meaning ?
mircea_popescu: so yes, they digitized the "sexy" parts.
mircea_popescu: here's the problem of ourdemocracy : if people are allowed to misperceive they "have choices" and feed this hallucination out of the field of choices they do not have, you end up with the sexy problem, whereby linear cost encounters unreasonably power-law distributed benefit.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-30 19:14 mircea_popescu: sorry asciilifeform . all i have are my own notes, which are as all hand notes useless without hte backing of the library of origin (in this case, the universitary library of cluj). teh interwebs dun seem to have a "here's the list of trotsky letters".