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deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/ballad/ << Trilema - Ballad...
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-sexy-problem-formalized/ << Trilema - The sexy problem, formalized
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/friday-night-or-las-moiras-revisited/ << Trilema - Friday night, or Las Moiras revisited.
shinohai: tfw it takes a 10-person team to generate a 4 line text file http://archive.is/o5V5R
asciilifeform: somehow this is even moar wtf than if the box simply walked away
mircea_popescu: i thought just usual "Branding" idiocy at the time. but a novel theory just presented itself.
mircea_popescu: then switched to uab/cherry servers
asciilifeform set dns to 91.218.246.33 .
mircea_popescu: so they can you know, change name yet again and so on.
asciilifeform: entirely possible that they plugged it in, and outlookdotcoming like madmen to ask mircea_popescu why not paid tab
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wanna rerout to your www ? gimme an ip
mircea_popescu: it's why we need usg to protect us!!!1
mircea_popescu: what can you do, this happens all the time on the interwebs, scammer copies site.
mircea_popescu: well, at least don't point phuctor.com to it.
asciilifeform: dafuq am i to do with that box nao
mircea_popescu: and the grand utility of sasl logins grows ever more evident.
mircea_popescu: also leaving out the "we will route your emails through outlook.com just in case nsa wants to not explain how it took a peek" lulz seems inappropriate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform employed i can see ; doing business ? people are allowed to hire whores.
asciilifeform: hey trinque -- deedbot b0rk3d ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 05:23 pete_dushenski: 199.204.187.186 << newest trb infrastructure node also finally synced up this week. took better part of a month but "shadchan" is now online and eager to serve.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-10#1723605 << this. whoops. ☝︎
mod6: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/M8K3v/?raw=true << I'll add this to the list.
mod6: pete_dushenski: re qntra shares, thx!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 01:48 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this too was a 1980s txt
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-10#1723586 << 1980s txt? ☝︎
jurov: pete_dushenski: tyvm!
pete_dushenski: 199.204.187.186 << newest trb infrastructure node also finally synced up this week. took better part of a month but "shadchan" is now online and eager to serve. ☟︎
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/10/09/twin-charged-elise-is-a-dreidel-on-her-private-racetrack/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Twin-charged Elise is a Dreidel on her private racetrack.
BingoBoingo: From the mines https://i.redditmedia.com/OErCGxBHNpxGR-pSLf7UnPTrTuFOLMSLwc_9-tJnaNA.jpg?w=620&s=c800920ec2cf3364ea5eebe70365b861
mircea_popescu: this is teh carribean tho
mircea_popescu: notrly. possibly the gensets they bought back when they were building their hydro power ?
mircea_popescu: kinda how this works.
asciilifeform: nazis iirc almost made up their minds to build 'ideal' ( iirc 3 metres even ) rail gauge, but didn't live nearly long enuff.
mircea_popescu: like teh us.
asciilifeform: neglects, however, to mention wider ru gauge.
mircea_popescu: the item goes on to point out that since SRBs had to go on rail which went through a tunnel, notwithstanding space shuttle engineers wanted wider boosters originally, the specs of the space shuttle was established millenia prior by the size of a horse's ass.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this too was a 1980s txt ☟︎
mircea_popescu: no such thing as a temporary spec!
mircea_popescu: used anything there was a significant chance to break a wheel in the road, as all the trails were built by 1435 mm wheels. but why were they ? because when the romans originally landed, they used 1435 mm wide wheelbases, which they had originally specified because it is what two average horses asses cover. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : so us rail gauge is 1435 mm. why ? because the first us rail was built by english immigrants, who kept to the english style. but why was the english style 1435 mm ? because rail started as (horse drawn) trams, and that was the gauge they used. but why ? because when they made trams they just used the old horse carriage gauge, by reusing the same tools. but why did carriages use 1435 mm gauge ? because if they ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( similar in that it does the thing described in the pseudo - https://archive.is/2zA45 )
asciilifeform: ^ constant spacetime bitness finder , similar to apeloyee's
BingoBoingo: Lol @Brauchian Chicken/road/God unity, as the lensgrinder intended
mod6: mircea_popescu: aha, but for now, this one suffices.
hanbot: mircea_popescu it makes a neat catalogue for picking something to read. like every other article, i suppose, but in a different format. ;)
mircea_popescu: the problem with these is that you can in principle keep going forever.
mircea_popescu: glad to hear, was thinking it's getting tedious after a while.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-did-the-chicken-cross-the-road/ << Trilema - Why did the chicken cross the road ?
asciilifeform: phf: the bernsteinian 'werker' is also c proggy. ( phuctor , in all 4 versions to date, consisted of 2 pieces, running wholly separately )
asciilifeform: but note that it does not in principle differ from the version that found the first pops.
asciilifeform: anyway the above was written in a few hrs. and it is not difficult to see why thrown out.
phf: yeah, i think that c version predates bernstein
asciilifeform: phf: i dun think i ever posted the modern ( bernsteinian ) one.
phf: asciilifeform: i think i have a C version of worker somewhere, that you posted when you were having issues with sqlite
asciilifeform: suggests that 'be' was interesting in spite of, rather than because of, him
phf: the guy incidentally went through a bunch of interesting but failed enterprises. e.g. he worked on palm one on the downswing, later was hired as a high profile consultant by nokia, told them to ditch symbian and replace it with android.
phf: i suppose the article indirectly answers, presents the kind of mindset
asciilifeform: phf: it was imho nifty. but ditching the 'own hardware, x86 can fuck itself' thing was , i suspect, the fatal mistake
a111: Logged on 2017-10-09 15:11 mircea_popescu: phf it's good that wired uses https to protect its readers. for instance it protected me from reading or archiving it, which i estimate to be a value add.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-09#1723353 << hur, well, i appreciated Beos at the time, it is sad to see now the kind of jokers worked on it then `everything-is-made-of-shit ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the problem with theoretical models based on projecting projections is that they're not even wrong.
mircea_popescu: and the people with the global warming see as quite fantastic all sorts of other theoretical contradictions of their theoretical models.
asciilifeform: the supposition that ideally-correct ffa could possibly run slower than the current one (supposing these 2 differ) i see as quite fantastic.
mircea_popescu: can not calculate anything on the basis of inexistent items.
asciilifeform: i wouldn't disagree if thread were re ~using~. but re calculating speed ?!
mircea_popescu: trinque 's payment thing will have been in production soonish.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that it's used by at least someone somewhere for a while. like eg, lobbes auction bot is in production.
mircea_popescu: in fact, as trinque aptly points out, it's not even v'd yet, let alone reviewed yet, and so following.
mircea_popescu: because it's not had a significant history in production yet, which is what "item exists" means for the needs of future projection.
asciilifeform: i dun get why mircea_popescu equates the present situation with a complete lack of the item
mircea_popescu: quantifying "a single aspect" of "how stewardess would look in airplane i've not yet bought" is no better than quantifying any other / all of them.
mircea_popescu: no such thing is possible, for lack of... the item.
asciilifeform: strictly this.
asciilifeform: trinque: i won't recommend to take current ffa and put in battlefield . but proposed to calculate a bandwidth assuming current degree of ughslow
trinque: there was a whole thing about pastebin snippets being fine because not ready for vpatch
trinque: simultaneously signaling "this is a prototype, will sever your limbs and fuck your wife" and "pls to use" aren't you?
asciilifeform: how's it ever to 'in production' if mircea_popescu spits 'until in production' , lol
mircea_popescu: yeah well. there's no ~= in this arithmetic. if rsatron has been in production for a while and functioning correctly we can revisit these.
asciilifeform: i'd concur with mircea_popescu that one ought not connect ffa to, e.g., icbm, until it comes with proofs for all of the components, etc. -- but we do have a working modexp, from which can extrapolate pessimal speed ( it will get faster, but let's assume for said calculation that it will not )
asciilifeform: modexp ~= rsatron ( there is also keygen, but from pov of gedankenexperiment re 'what bandwidth?' you dun need it )
mircea_popescu: so not really anything to do.
mircea_popescu: there's no practical way to do rsa for realtime comms, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-01#1719192 ☝︎
asciilifeform: a clever buffering scheme would work mircea_popescu-style, by sending otp rngolade during idle pauses in conversation, and thereafter using.
asciilifeform: ( and yes a 0.85s item will have to buffer, and it will feel somewhat like talking to lunar base. so wat. )
asciilifeform: ( this is quite attainable using the ffa we have ~today~, supposing one allows karatsuba to split 3way on 3 cores of whatever chip you have )
asciilifeform: ... it follows that a 0.85sec 4096b modexp is all you need for a reasonable 'rsa phone' item. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there are voice compressions that give quite satisfactory speech with ~300 byte/sec bandwidth
asciilifeform: btw let's do the phone thing, briefly. a 4096b rsa modexp can carry 4096b , i.e. 512byte, of payload sans padding. let's conservatively suppose that padding ( and hash auth, or whatever, and/or lubyzation, etc ) costs half of the payload room. so you get 256 byte per 4096b modexp;
mircea_popescu: "there will be a moscow exhibition of arts by over 100 sculptors and painters of the soviet republics. these were executed over the past five years."
asciilifeform: ( imho word 'server' is inherently misleading in this domain; oughta call 'masters' and 'slaves' , the brokers and those relying on'em respectively )
mircea_popescu recalls the convo!
asciilifeform: ( observe that for hole punching, the 'server' does not need to be a heavy duty box that sits as 'star topology apex', but can be any of one or more boxes among the nodes themselves , at a particular time, with external ip. ) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: this in point of fact is how 'skype' worked prior to microshit having swallowed it.
mircea_popescu: well, might want to get it anyway, fill hdd with naked pictures of the wives of "dutch authorities"
asciilifeform: all you need is some way to help the nodes to open udp-hole to one another.
asciilifeform: point being, if you have a net made of gsm modems that can throw packets , you do not need a relay through which 'all calls' go - at all
asciilifeform: ( i.e. for the nodes of the network to know at all times of at least 1 member among them who has external ip )
mircea_popescu: well... you recall the convo. at the least you're using the ephemereal connectors as then discussed.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 18:28 asciilifeform: the only quasi-reliable method ( 'udp hole punch' ), used by , e.g., 'skype', STILL requires a 3rd party non-natted box to broker the connection
mircea_popescu: why do we use freenode rather than gossipd ?