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trinque:
as things get reposessed from the gentoo shitgnomes, can move their modified ebuilds from /usr/portage into /cuntoo or w/e
hanbot: anyway trinque looking forward to distfiles collection --i'll be switching over to gentoo from the ubuntu mess soon. i've been fucking around with it for far too long,
as asciilifeform in other words ;p
trinque: "eudev" exists
as an alternative to the systemd-udev. dunno what else the heathens stapled to systemd meanwhile
diana_coman: asciilifeform, what do you say the result should be when the count is 0 ? (k
as mircea_popescu says)
diana_coman: does anybody know precisely what function mpi_tdiv_q_2exp from "sane mpi" does exactly?
as we were talking of understanding of code earlier
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'magic trick' vs '
as yet unbroken cipher'
mircea_popescu: and possibly absence of 0 (and it's later humiliation
as O) comes from similar thought
mircea_popescu: first system ever seen where the dead live amoing the living
as a quite plainly factual matter.
mircea_popescu: or
as in romanian, "spune-i lu' ma-ta sa nu se mai futa beata"
mircea_popescu: anyway, the recently linked kay interview struck me
as exactly this : "check out the retarded monkey, discussing 1960s ex memoria. no wonder he sounds like an idiot"
mircea_popescu: and why i didn't come to the same conclusion
as alf, "more memory is better". not for me, i have enough for what i use it for.
mircea_popescu: so this, i would count,
as the foremost and most notable application of tractor to IA. logs.
mircea_popescu: essible to the man captive in "either you remember it
AS IT WAS or IT IS LOST FOREVER!!")
phf: ental to understanding. if on the other hand the language we make is designed to be authored by hand, and is authored lightly assisted by tooling, then there's opportunity and a kind of cognitive pull for the author to make the changes
as meaningful
as possible. i'm basically ok with working somewhere on that spectrum, but i was preemptively ranting against the kind of patches that communicate nothing but accidental floating point jitter of the graphic
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 05:49 mircea_popescu: let's try and understand this : running a house without a bipedal dishwasher, either in personam or
as the role only, to be filled by whichever of the available persons according to some (arbitrary, male-oppressive-phalocentric, etc) criteria results in the situation where you gotta pay 3 cents whenever you use a fork. what has been saved ?
mircea_popescu:
as to the narrowed down " it's not any kind of understanding to repeat computers work by hand to recreate that svg" << it may not be. but it may well be. the fundamental problem with "time can be but wasted" is that there are no categorical cuts available. spinoza polished lenses and miller worked for the cosmoccocic company. deciding aforehand what tractor work is worth doing by hand is notoriously and to this day the chief
mircea_popescu: ye, here we have regular (this is important) and high volume (also important) hose. and people do irregular (not just
as time) and low volume, so this is categorically differentiable from all other patches.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 20:01 diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw I read it
as in went through it line by line and with pencil and paper; ran it too at the end, played a bit around with tests and that; and since we are at this, nitpick: in FZ_Swap why T:=X if already initialised at declaration or what am I missing of Ada in there?
phf: well, that goes back to the meaning question. with code i don't get ascii codes
as ints and then have to paper out the actual text before i can work out meaning. in fact what i do put on paper is almost never related to the written code itself. in the case of mechanical graphics though, my first step is ascii-to-characters
mircea_popescu: there was some discussion
as to the history of typographical ideas in the log somewhere
phf: mircea_popescu: i think the differ and rendered for the ~diffs~ is significantly different from what our current foundation is. so in principle i don't see an issue with svg,
as long
as you can get the ~diff~ out of the vpatch itself, rather than say, pressing original, pressing new and then eyeballing the differences.
mircea_popescu: either one special key or one new key each week,
as you feel like.
mircea_popescu: guy could actually publish the item
as a succession of patches, and speaking of this : hey trinque, could you be enticed to actually genesis that item, and patch it weekly ?
mircea_popescu: would you say graph
as extant on wot.deedbot is not patch-ready ?
mircea_popescu: where i can change the DISCRETE data bits independently ;
as well
as their adnotation.
phf: the ast direction moves away from patches
as literature (which is i think what mp is saying from a different direction?)
phf: " I use space
as a terminator and words execute immediately, there is no CR to mark the end of the line. There are no CRs, just space delimiters. I currently have BS and Delete. I would like to keep only two special keys, BS and a key to exit. I think I would prefer BS over Delete."
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is the important, v-powered realisation here : there can NOT BE such a thing
as bit-ambiguity in a source. if "this bit being either set or null has no effect" you have a problem, which must be addressed. because it sure
as fuck isn't acceptabru to read diffs of style in a patch. patches are for substantive change.
mircea_popescu: because you CAN NOT have such a thing
as untreated item in code.
mircea_popescu: just
as soon
as something "is ignored by the compiler", that something now has to be treated somewhere else.
mircea_popescu: the way this'd work would be
as a list of rules ("no two consecutive spaces" or whatever) which the sources are checked against BEFORE diffing. should the check fail the options are either to propagate the fail ("file x not in format" error) or else to autofix (which'd work via sed).
mircea_popescu: women
as in usg."women" and capitalism
as in usg."capitalism" and "law" and so on forever.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 01:53 asciilifeform: now you store bit
as ~phase~ of the square wave, rather than absolute steady state of the flipflop.
mircea_popescu: secure memory
as a concept is actually pretty good, if implemented correctly. implemented
as "not swapped" it's not useful, but if it were "untouchable by any other" it'd be useful.
mircea_popescu: (editor,
as in, the human person, not
as in the "editor" ie ide)
mircea_popescu: best way,
as per teh older discussion re your newly discovered interrest in boats.
mircea_popescu: apparently shit asciilifeform makes sells ok, for just
as long
as it isn't him selling.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 15:21 danielpbarron: glad i replaced them but to be perfectly honest i'd have been better off keeping both the bitcoin spent while also buying the re-up. I justify it
as a hedge against possible bitcoin price decrease and
as a public service for the republic
BingoBoingo: What kind of hardware are you building those with?
As ISP develops would be nice to know what a republican box builder is offering.
danielpbarron: glad i replaced them but to be perfectly honest i'd have been better off keeping both the bitcoin spent while also buying the re-up. I justify it
as a hedge against possible bitcoin price decrease and
as a public service for the republic
☟︎ The20YearIRCloud: From property income? Then yes if you consider the USD. From the outset I explained to everyone that we'd be dealing primarily in USD, accepting BTC from tenants wherever possible.
As of today I've had a grand sum of 3 people ask me about truly getting involved in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: still not quite
AS remarkable
as discussed here, but yes.
mircea_popescu: machinery that behaves
as intended over a large range of inputs impresses me. this isn't mandatory for anyone.
mircea_popescu: but i suspect
as implemented it is blind peculiarization of more general concept that needs unearthing.
mircea_popescu: how can non-usg node correctly identify C'
as retcon ?
phf: well, if you baked in color support, your code periodically enables a color mode, but doesn't immediately disable it. instead colors spit out
as the execution unfolds. but if you catch an interrupt, you end up with a borked terminal. hence fucking complicated ass signal machinery to ensure that color gets restored on hup or suspend
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 23:58 asciilifeform: ( it is specifically a pill against 'can recognize work done by itself
as opposed to work done by others' aspect )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 16:22 mircea_popescu: anwyay, revisiting an ancient conversation re
http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug : i have to thoroughly concede this point to asciilifeform . the model is
as follows : if a) a PoW system exists in which b) a participating entity can recognize work done by itself
as opposed to work done by others then it NECESSARILY follow that entity can, and therefore it ALSO follows that it eventually will c) impose further con
mircea_popescu: (which, i confess, striked/strikes me
as a seductively good idea)
mircea_popescu: the thus reconstructed p and q should be tested for whether they indeed have no true witness of compositeness
as low
as gpg tests.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform importantly, re the test above : not the ~factors~ must be tested, but the actual composite p or q,
as reconstructed from the factors.
mircea_popescu: and i have a good mind to mandate eucrypt impl of m-r actually uses 2^8 ie 256
as minimum.
mircea_popescu: so the recipe would be, "for every composite N, sort the factors so
as to obtain two 2048 bit chunks ; then check whether 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17 are strong liars for the item.
mircea_popescu: this is what i say : reconstruct the original two "primes" of which at least one wasn't ; then see which of such items have in fact low primes
as strong liars.
mircea_popescu: it'd be worth it at this point to see which of the composite "primes" have the whole set of primes under say 29
as strong liars.
mircea_popescu: that said, a gmp version pushed out
as a patch on mpi might not be entirely without merit.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 22:38 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tell you what, m-r
as found in gpg, with its "12" that are really 11 witnesses is worthlessly useless.
mircea_popescu: esthlos i'd love for you to be able to jump straight into this ; however there's some groundwork to be laid. look into the V system, because ideally you'd be presenting the finished item
as a patch on diana's eucrypt lib. and asciilifeform is working on and publishing a final FFA which is what we intend to use here.